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Shamil Murtazin, 21.11.2013 18:54

Hello!..
Advise a small range of accessories, which plans to use next summer.
Plans night lamp for the purpose of gathering pofotkat ... and interesting specimens - collected. Plus broods gusyanok and occasional meetings with Butterflies.
Please consider my small experience in this topic and yet for me it's a hobby.This year tried - found the smallest pin, the master of the gasket materials raspravilki.And it started to like it :) swallowtail box (found on the track downed)
I think I need a pin in two sizes - great for "Krupnyakov" (all that more psi =) and small (less than everything)
I want to know what will advise as to raspravilke tape. The polyethylene and tracing ...The first is too soft, the other is opaque and flakes collects.
And most importantly - a box underneath the whole thing ... Of course, while I do not think about the cabinet with trays, but this option should be envisaged in the future. =)

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21.11.2013 20:21, Peter Khramov

Pins - size 0 or 1 plus 2 or 3 tape raspravilok special sale, is very inexpensive. Wooden box 30x40 or 40x50 (more common and the furniture is made for them, too).

22.11.2013 9:30, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Pins 1 and 3 of the other mischief.

22.11.2013 9:32, Dmitriy Pozhogin

As the tapes raspravki I use stationery files (thick), I cut them into strips. They are transparent and do not drag them nothing sticks.

24.11.2013 2:04, Anna Bulgakova

Zero pin really awkward, bent when sticking, but small butterflies without them spread. All equipment is ordered directly from the Czech Republic in EntoSfinks. At first it was very profitable, but the last time through PeyPel overpaid 2 t. Rub. And that's about the box, and no torment. I got http://ru-butterflies.livejournal.com/80955.html#cutid1 Thanks to author!

25.11.2013 18:22, Peter Khramov

If you order a lot, it's true of the Czech Republic can be beneficial (except boxes and other oversize cargo). If a little - the Nea -) With regards samopal, then if it is true at cost 900 pe goes, it's not worth it. You can not take the expensive factory.

26.11.2013 19:58, Shamil Murtazin

Write-write =)
Homemade out and homemade. It considered normal if twice as expensive, but its unique "charm".
At night, catch on the sheet, or "tent" to put DRLkami? (I never have been there, but interesting)

26.11.2013 21:21, Peter Khramov

If there is a bright wall, and with it the electricity nemerenoe number - that is very conducive to: -) And so on responses it turns out that four-sided frame and trap with a mercury lamp in the center - the most it.

26.11.2013 22:35, Vasiliy Feoktistov

The sheet on a rope, and the lamp next to it: you can not bother with all sorts of bells and whistles in particular (if it is at the country house of her aunt) :) House on the balcony is also a sheet with three lamps: Repti Glo 8.0 (10.0) T8 15W 45cm UV + two sberegayki Camelion LH26 -3U / BLB / E27 26W 220V and flying normally for the city.
Shamil, a good book is the basics here: http://rghost.ru/50469097 Especially today put :)

29.11.2013 16:25, Anna Bulgakova

Peter, and where to get ready for less? If the delivery, it is still expensive.

01.12.2013 13:02, Alex Dumchus

In connection with a range of locations from the capital city, I have to do everything yourself. Raspravilki do from parquet boards, pasting thin sheets of polystyrene on top of the square, which is pasted over ceilings. Those squares are folded twice in the bottom of the box. Boxes can be obtained from well-Ikeevskih frames 40x50 (photo).Ribbon raspravilok comes from rolls of paper for baking. Under wardrobe boxes ordered Stanley (photo). Hiking Sachek made of rod and landing net.for all his faults, he has one, but a very big advantage - instantly develops! I noticed that many people, especially abroad, are inadequate to the men (it's not the children!) And holding a Sachek and attracting unnecessary attention.For example, Thais, whom I met in the jungle, thinking that I catch birds, Latinos stopped and watched for a long time, his mouth open, and others. And so, I resigned for 2 seconds and go, kind of like an umbrella. That's about the light I have nothing comes out: I drive with a UV special.lamp (photo), I pull out the night in a hotel on the balcony, and it flew, mainly mosquitoes and sandflies. Peter, can that advise? Compact. I'm going to the end of January in Sri Lanka.

01.12.2013 18:44, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander, if there are no problems with electricity as a source recommend using DRV or DRL. DRL better in that the outer cylinder can be split and obtain pure UV, and its disadvantage is, that it is necessary to carry a choke that heavy.DRV operates without a throttle, but the outer cylinder for pure UV stab at it impossible in any case. With strong

01.12.2013 18:49, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Not accidentally pressed. I wish to add that the strong ambient light is better to take the power of 250 watts or less.
Well, from time to time, weather and other conditions, the effectiveness also depends, of course.

01.12.2013 20:42, Alex Dumchus

Basil. This can be at home, although we especially do not flies but small scoop and moths. Although the spring it is necessary to order Peter to the store.
Find how to compact fluorescent lamps to be used in the tropics, and customs was no problem ..

01.12.2013 21:24, Shamil Murtazin

I want to warn people that a split DRL to get more power to the UV light.
Be careful! In this case it is necessary to protect the eyes and, of course, the skin from high doses of ultraviolet radiation.
Sam climbed a couple of times under running lamps and the consequences were not so pleasant.Observe safety;)
It seems that the special problems in the field. As the light in the field you deliver?
Something other than envelopes for transporting the captured material it makes sense to use? (usually dragged into a small glass or plastic jars, because the backpack envelopes rasterёt into dust)
Book looked. Anecdotally.Ponastalgirovat mining benthos.
And the question arose. Moritelnye highly toxic substances are not advised. =)

01.12.2013 22:09, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Well, except for the envelopes, you can impale on site (taking appropriate container), and the rule at home: especially not Rhopalocera butterflies. And for the kill rate is nothing better until he came up with ethyl acetate.If you can not get a pure ethyl acetate and suitable liquid nail polish remover "Laska" (which is largely composed of ethyl acetate and is worth a penny). As for the world in the field: I want to try incandescent kerosene lamp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ZqzAPvvr4 presented on video third (last) should fly to it in my opinion?

01.12.2013 22:15, Vasiliy Feoktistov

In the light I want to add: people usually take with a small gasoline generator (good if you have a car) and XRD: the best option of all.

01.12.2013 23:40, Peter Khramov

Alexander, photos can now be shipped to the comments on this site. There is no need to ship ne_babochek photo gallery.

01.12.2013 23:42, Peter Khramov

Anna, yes, if the delivery is in Kaliningrad, it turns out quite expensive. And so - in Lepstore users Lepidoptera box usually is, even when the catalog is written that they are not. Well, the prices are also other, yeah: -)

02.12.2013 2:38, Peter Khramov

Alexander, for lamps - mercury can you send for review.

02.12.2013 7:20, Alex Dumchus

Thank you, Peter.I winter to spring something that you offer - pin end N2, pin label - well, I do not like to impale them on a basic, raspravilki for mikry- blues, small satyrinae - the last time I even in the tropics do not catch because that my bad straightened, if you are with the groove 3 mm or less, and of the lamp,MB by the time you have and UV will.

02.12.2013 7:47, Shamil Murtazin

Gasoline Generator - it is certainly very cool =)
A UV LEDs do not spravlyutsya? There are flashlights in the 400nm to 3-5 watts.
Peter, I'd take the pins the box and pravilku factory, to be compared with the homebrew twig ...

02.12.2013 10:02, Vasiliy Feoktistov

With LEDs man experimenting on molbiole the first year (see. The theme "Features of fishing in the world"): only the result of these experiments are zero or close to zero :). We strongly recommend to "reinvent the wheel", but use old, proven ways for years. LEDs? ........ It is ridiculous in this area to use them :)

02.12.2013 11:42, Vasiliy Feoktistov

That's actually the theme: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=72363 (it is necessary to read and weigh yourself).
And that's what we should strive: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=72363&view=findpost&p=941990
And: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=526333&view=findpost&p=1430443 (Victor Sinyaev it's true: a well-known hunter). And forget about LEDs: IMHO mischief.

02.12.2013 20:33, Shamil Murtazin

Basil, you're so vain. Many things begins with such attempts and searches. While agree on DRL still flying :)
Interestingly, there are works on the insect response to different wavelengths of light emission. I would be honored.
Peter, apparently a lot of people here are waiting for proposals on the inventory, of which it is difficult to give up =)

02.12.2013 21:27, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Can fly even on an ordinary candle (it all depends heavily on vneshnik factors: illumination, weather, etc.). Just nothing better DRL (the test of time and many people) because so and wrote :) Generator is not, and does not carry it no anything except their own hands. Was-would be possible only with the DRL would have caught in the field.

03.12.2013 18:40, Peter Khramov

Shamil about the stock - Lepstor call the toll free number 8 (800) 775-60-95 and ask me to switch (better in the second half of the day in Moscow), or email me throw off your mobile and convenient time to call, I'll Dial. And so, without thinking, box 23h30 (30x40 or if the wait a little), I will send you free of charge Review.

07.12.2013 17:29, Shamil Murtazin

So, the next question on the world.
Somebody tried energosberegayki ultraviolet lamp with a black?

Just make out one - it's easy to convert to 12 volts.

07.12.2013 18:16, Alex Dumchus

I tried black ufiolet. lamp. I put three 45 cm long home for the night in the gazebo. When switched off, the rest of the world it is something flies, but not enough. by combining them with plain white or uf.beloy fly a little better. But the city is not an indicator of external illumination-light district.

07.12.2013 20:58, Shamil Murtazin

It seems necessary to collect the interferometer and scientific work carried out)))
To XRD spectrum like to do =)

09.12.2013 9:33, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Why reinvent the wheel. DRL best remedy. If you feel sorry for the eye and shell-DRV

09.12.2013 11:09, Shamil Murtazin

Thanks, but...
"640K should be enough for everyone ..."

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