Photo #33093: Euromoia subpulchra

26.08.2016 11:40, Evgeny Komarov

So I didn't post all the captured species :) Why upload if there are already a dozen good pictures from the same places on the website. But you can estimate approximately of course. In general, Noctuoidea has 135 species, and specifically Noctuidae - 62. This year I have not posted practically any of them.

26.08.2016 11:04, Irina Nikulina

Eugene, there is no need to count:) Select Gallery - further in the selection parameters choose Noctuidae, photographer and select Primorsky Krai as Location. Here are the results and the photos. Very convenient:)

26.08.2016 10:39, Evgeny Komarov

Of course not, Yuri! I didn't send him one picture at a time. plus external variability, plus I don't know very well myself :) It is necessary to calculate how many types of Noctuidae from Primorye I took a photo of. I know that I have illustrated 2099 species on the website so far, but how many of them are a Noctuidae...

26.08.2016 1:27, Yuri Semejkin

Eugene! And one and a half hundred, is that so many species were shoot?

25.08.2016 20:00, Evgeny Komarov Corrected data.

Evgeny Komarov → Irina Nikulina.

25.08.2016 19:57, Evgeny Komarov

When I uploaded a one and a half hundred of Noctuidae for Matov, I was uncritical,and he just made a slip. I asked him once again.I'm correcting it now.

25.08.2016 19:55, Evgeny Komarov Corrected data.

Euromoia mixta → Euromoia subpulchra.

21.08.2016 10:16, Yuri Semejkin

Sasha, I have uploaded a description of both species here. Pay attention to the description of the hindwing.In cases where they are visible, there are no problems with species defining. I don’t understand about stigma, is it possible that both species may not have it? Or weakly expressed ? If so, I would like an explanation how to identify the species without seeing the hind wings. ...

21.08.2016 8:48, Alexandr Zhakov

Yura, as for photos, I also agree with Ira, but in general there can be real confusion in photos with these species :)

21.08.2016 2:55, Yuri Semejkin

>>>>

20.08.2016 14:42, Alexandr Zhakov

A reniform stigma, in my opinion, is a good difference. You can't tell that from Kononenko's book. There, only one out of five specimens of these two species has it clearly visible. You're probably right, but I'm not sure.

20.08.2016 13:50, Irina Nikulina

Of course, we will wait for the opinions of Evgeny and Alexey. Let me explain what particularly confused me - this white spot. According to the book by Kononenko the differential diagnosis of these species (p. 179): E. mixta differs from its congeners in duller wing color with more expressed mossy greenish tint, absence of white reniform stigma, and less expressed or not expressed yellow patch in the hindwing. The latter is not useful for comparison in this case, mixta has the greener stripes — it seems, yes (I looked at my own 6), but here it could be subjective. The white kidney-shaped spot, in my opinion, is a good difference.

20.08.2016 9:09, Alexandr Zhakov

I looked at it, my first impression, I agree with you. ou. I looked a little more. But I can’t find any differences: one is a little greener, the other is a little brown, but it could be the other way around. You need to know the specific differences and listen to the opinion of Evgeniy and, if possible, Matov.

18.08.2016 16:10, Irina Nikulina

Evgeniy, could there be any confusion when taking two pictures? I dealt with my own from Anisimovka, looked at Kononenko (and descriptions too), and here, I think, subpulchra. Sasha, I ask you again - look at the book these 2 types (pl. 22), please, I don't seem to be mistaken, but I can't check on other sites yet.