Photo #6383: Japonica adusta

12.06.2014 20:59, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Japonica lutea → Japonica adusta.

12.06.2014 19:36, Irina Nikulina

The debate is already three years ago, saw the accident, but I want to add - to discuss - their views, although not resident) Butterflies those seen in nature, and in the collection, was interested in differences. The most significant (in appearance): 1. adusta always slightly larger (it is clear that this is not a sign of a photo) 2.background wings adusta (and top and underside) brighter shade of yellow less, more reddish (pink) 3. blackout at the top of the PC (top) in adusta less captures its cutting edge 4. On the PC at the underside adusta median strip longer than a few wider and located closer to the central cell spot (it can also be called short strip).Here, in my opinion, Japonica adusta. I think the color rendition is not to blame. Yuri says that on several occasions met marshmallows just such a hue. I can confirm that there are marshmallows in the south of Primorye (in the vicinity of Vlad on, not just in the Khasan district of), though there are less than yellowish.And they always have the distance between the median strip and the central spot of the cell less. Pictures by Vladimir Meshcheryakov delivered to the site. http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/30488 http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/30487 http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/30486 http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/30485

09.03.2011 2:59, Peter Khramov

So "uncertain" still.

09.03.2011 1:10, Eugene Karolinskiy

If so, then it's just impossible to identify two of these to the species rather sure, I think.

08.03.2011 14:11, Yuri Semejkin

As for "veggies". Mostly this is Mongolian Oak, rarely it's Quercus dentata.

24.02.2011 19:40, Peter Khramov

To "uncertain".

24.02.2011 18:45, Eugene Karolinskiy

Imho, this is just a guesswork. :) Is there any point to compare their stripes if we're not sure that its some diagnostic feature? We should have a look at their genitalia... :) One pro for lutea is that (as I found) adusta was found only on the very edge of the southern Primorye (Hasansky hood). "Veggies" are also interesting question as for these butterflies. This can be a good clue to identify!

24.02.2011 10:45,

Yep :) Then the second shot, #6384 is not J. lutea but J. adusta! Colleagues, please, compare a white stripes pattern at the lower part of the hind wings, there: http://szmn.sbras.ru/old/picts/butterfly/Lycaenidae/Japonica_adusta.htm and http://szmn.sbras.ru/old/picts/butterfly/Lycaenidae/Japonica_lutea.htm. And also our photos. Anyway, it's surely silly to do that having one butterfly of every species.

24.02.2011 9:06, Evgeny Komarov

Yep :) Then the second shot, #6384 is not J. lutea but J. adusta! Colleagues, please, compare a white stripes pattern at the lower part of the hind wings, there: http://szmn.sbras.ru/old/picts/butterfly/Lycaenidae/Japonica_adusta.htm and http://szmn.sbras.ru/old/picts/butterfly/Lycaenidae/Japonica_lutea.htm. And also our photos. Anyway, it's surely silly to do that having one butterfly of every species.

24.02.2011 8:55, Evgeny Komarov

Petr, thanks! :)
If we compare these photos, then this is the very Japonica adusta (Riley, 1939)!

24.02.2011 0:48, Peter Khramov

Evgeny, you're somehow overdramatizing things. You can see its underside there, for instance: http://szmn.sbras.ru/old/picts/butterfly/Lycaenidae/Japonica_adusta.htm.

23.02.2011 21:05, Evgeny Komarov

Poorly, adusta is shown in web so bad (found only this): http://molbiol.ru/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t184005.html.

23.02.2011 18:07, Eugene Karolinskiy

Hm... Don't know. Thought, this depends on color rendering. Maybe this is some individual feature. I have never been in the Primorye region and never seen this butterfly alive, so let's residents say something. :) Also this is harder, because there is J. adusta (another name is onoi) in the very South Primorye. Their appearances differ rather slightly. Anyway, they feed on different plants, so lutea feeds on Q. mongolicus and adusta does on Q. dentata. What veggies do you have then? :)

23.02.2011 3:11, Yuri Semejkin

Hi there! Want to ask experts. Please, explain, if possible, why this Japonica lutea is colored in such a way? In past three years I met only two Japonica lutea of such color. Common color is like on #6384 shot. Yury.

23.02.2011 1:28, Peter Khramov

Moved to J. lutea.

23.02.2011 0:32, Eugene Karolinskiy

IMHO, Japonica lutea.