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Identification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

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03.03.2008 19:10, алекс 2611

Well, I'm late again... frown.gif
I can only add a third photo each. This is a wasp from the genus Tiphia (family Tiphiidae). Most likely Tiphia femorata. The wasp is quite common even in the north of the Leningrad region. It lays eggs on the larvae of various lamellate beetles.
By the way, it is interesting: in the photo it is on the flowers of milkweed and all my specimens are collected on the flowers of milkweed.

03.03.2008 20:01, barry

Well, I'm late again... frown.gif 
I can only add a third photo each. This is a wasp from the genus Tiphia (family Tiphiidae). Most likely Tiphia femorata. The wasp is quite common even in the north of the Leningrad region. It lays eggs on the larvae of various lamellate beetles.
By the way, it is interesting: in the photo it is on the flowers of milkweed and all my specimens are collected on the flowers of milkweed.
Thanks! As for the milkweed - we didn't seem to have anything else blooming then, except for the milkweed and yellow flowers in the last picture, but I didn't see her (or him) on the last flower.

Just to be sure, the supposed Tiphia femorata, as I promised...
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03.03.2008 20:48, алекс 2611

Tiphia femorata. She's a darling.
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03.03.2008 21:00, IchMan

Well, I'm late again... frown.gif 
I can only add a third photo each. This is a wasp from the genus Tiphia (family Tiphiidae). Most likely Tiphia femorata. The wasp is quite common even in the north of the Leningrad region. It lays eggs on the larvae of various lamellate beetles.
By the way, it is interesting: in the photo it is on the flowers of milkweed and all my specimens are collected on the flowers of milkweed.


So that's what youwink.gif're like Tiphia Now I'll know, thank you.
I've never seen it in person. In Karelia, only T. minuta was recorded, which I did not catch myself. And from the rest of the photos, you can already make out both the venation and the shape of the eyes, the characteristic structure of the notum - so then the definition is already a matter of technique.
Judging by the color of the middle and back thighs (and size) this is exactly Tiphia femorata
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03.03.2008 21:46, Konstantin Shorenko

I work on burrowing wasps, so I'll point out all the "Sphecidae". where it is possible to reach the view, but it is difficult to say exactly from the photo . So:
gumenuk
P_A008761 - Cerceris sp.
O_A012577 - Mellinus arvensis
Musson_max 02/29/2008
Sceliphron is similar to destillatorium, but I'm confused about the yellow thighs. I'll take a look at the caller ID and tell you for sure tomorrow.
Barry
1-09.08.2007 Kharkiv Astata boops, male
4-05.08.2007 Kharkiv Cerceris species I will specify
5-07.08.2007 Kharkiv Cerceris possibly lunata

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03.03.2008 22:48, алекс 2611

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03.03.2008 23:02, Konstantin Shorenko

I probably haven't looked at them smile.gifin a long time . We have in Europe. parts of 5 species of S. curvatum, madraspatanum, caementarium, destillatorium, spirifex. In Kiev, there can be two - curvatum (it is easy to distinguish, it is black) and destillatorium. With a stretch, it can be spirifex, but its wing caps are black. I saw a species from the genus Chalibyon (Sceliphrini) in the Crimea, but did not catch frown.gifit .

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03.03.2008 23:07, IchMan

Exactly, in male Astata, the eyes also touch. A. boops is found in the south of Karelia, but I have not seen any males! It's a little complicated from the photo, not knowing the group well teapot.gif
As for Sceliphron destillatorium, I caught several specimens in the Kuban region with exactly this color of the hind thighs.
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04.03.2008 0:10, Konstantin Shorenko

By the way, here is Sceliphron caementarium. A species that is advintive in Europe. I know the message from Odessa and last year I caught it in the Crimea. HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS? If you have seen it, then where and when is very interesting.

04.03.2008 9:16, алекс 2611

By the way, here is Sceliphron caementarium. A species that is advintive in Europe. I know the message from Odessa and last year I caught it in the Crimea. HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS? If you have seen it, then where and when is very interesting.


Great! Envy. I've been looking for it for a long time, but I've never seen it. Sceliphron destillatorium is often found, but this species is not. Maybe Ripper has one in Moldova? It is necessary to strain Andrey....
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04.03.2008 10:31, Охотник за осами

By the way, here is Sceliphron caementarium. A species that is advintive in Europe. I know the message from Odessa and last year I caught it in the Crimea. HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS? If you have seen it, then where and when is very interesting.

I've seen them, they're big wasps, about half a finger long!At least we have them in Almaty, but those who have a striped belly are smaller, no bigger than a wasp's uterus.

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04.03.2008 20:34, Konstantin Shorenko

Great! Envy. I've been looking for it for a long time, but I've never seen it. Sceliphron destillatorium is often found, but this species is not. Maybe Ripper has one in Moldova? It is necessary to strain Andrey....

I think it's a little chilly in the Pittsburgh latitudes.

04.03.2008 22:21, Tigran Oganesov

By the way, here is Sceliphron caementarium. A species that is advintive in Europe. I know the message from Odessa and last year I caught it in the Crimea. HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS? If you have seen it, then where and when is very interesting.

I saw something very similar in Sochi. Such a question - does he fold his wings like vespids or did it seem to me?

04.03.2008 23:14, Konstantin Shorenko

No, he doesn't fold his wings. They are dark purple. In Sochi, it may well be. But there are many similar species - the same destillatorium. This one is distinguished just by purple wings and a black stalk of the abdomen, well, the size is larger. During the construction of nests (they are stuccoed from mud), puddles near the water are shorter, there may be several hundred individuals!!!

05.03.2008 8:09, Охотник за осами

In short, this is a road os

05.03.2008 12:48, алекс 2611

I think it's a little chilly in the Pittsburgh latitudes.


No, well, I understand that. smile.gif We don't have Sceliphrons here anymore. We have a bad situation with stinging hymenoptera. Even near Moscow is already better.
I'm trying to catch him in the south. In the same Crimea. I caught a lot of bee wasps in the Crimea.
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05.03.2008 12:53, алекс 2611

In short, it's a road wasp


Dorsal wasps are still commonly called Pompilidae. Sceliphron is still from the family Sphecidae. They are commonly referred to as burrowing wasps-digger wasp.
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05.03.2008 14:15, Konstantin Shorenko

In short, it's a road wasp

More precisely-Sem. Sphecidae, tribe Scelephrini, genus Scelephron.

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05.03.2008 14:23, Konstantin Shorenko

No, well, I understand that. smile.gif We don't have Sceliphrons here anymore. We have a bad situation with stinging hymenoptera. Even near Moscow is already better.
I'm trying to catch him in the south. In the same Crimea. I caught a lot of bee-wasps in the Crimea.

I didn't catch it either. But last year the topic started smile.gifto change . I even caught Sceliphron madraspatanum! It is a typical southern Mediterranean species, and is found in the south-east of the Crimea. caementarium came across regularly-from Kerch to Karadag, which has never happened before (I have been collecting in these places since 1997). In Alushta, I even saw Chalybion! And this is generally a Central Asian critter! True, I didn't catch it, but it's hard to confuse it with something else - they're like Sceliphrons, only metallic blue in color and glow in the sun!!!

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05.03.2008 20:14, Konstantin Shorenko

On the subject of destillatoriuma's yellow thighs - they are really yellow!!! That got me hooked smile.gif.
To Barry
And yet, I did not add the definition of the species of the genus Cerceris, so this is most likely arenaria.

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05.03.2008 20:54, Tigran Oganesov

No, he doesn't fold his wings. They are dark purple. In Sochi, it may well be. But there are many similar species - the same destillatorium. This one is distinguished just by purple wings and a black stalk of the abdomen, well, the size is larger. During the construction of nests (they are stuccoed from mud), puddles near the water are shorter, there may be several hundred individuals!!!

I'm actually quite familiar with S. destillatorium smile.gif
I spoke specifically about S. caementarium. To be honest, I don't know what the Pelopians can be confused with at all, so most likely he was.

06.03.2008 20:07, Baguk

Is it Xylocopa valga or X. violacea? I thought they were synonyms...
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Taken in Tatarstan, in our south - the usual view.

15.03.2008 18:34, Мих

Once, a long time ago, I saw a xylocope on a flower and thought it was a beautiful beetle.. I grabbed it with my hand.. my arm was paralyzed. all day long I was leaving.

15.03.2008 20:17, RippeR

Baguk:
I think violacea
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29.03.2008 1:13, REDBOOK

Question about the species of trivial wasps in the Southern Urals)
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29.03.2008 10:59, Timandr

but do you define these people? Both are small, the first (cool appearance) - mowing, the second-on poplar leaves, such as glitter

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30.03.2008 3:08, guest: proctos

the first is sem. Eucharitidae, second family Perilampidae (Hymenoptera, Chalcidoidea)
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30.03.2008 8:47, Timandr

I'd like to know more...

31.03.2008 16:12, vespabellicosus

From the Chelyabinsk region - most likely, Polistes biglumis
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02.04.2008 21:59, REDBOOK

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03.04.2008 2:02, Ekos

No, Sergey, the bee is wrong. It does not live in flocks, but alone, making nests by gnawing out cavities in wood ( for which it is called the carpenter bumblebee). Generally no use.
I wonder if it really goes that far north? I often visited the Saratov region - I never met it (although I really wanted to). After all, global warming.....


I also visited the Saratov region several times and I got the impression that this is a common speciessmile.gif, although the Red Book of the region indicates that this is an extremely rare species, such as there have been no finds at all recently. One X. valga from there is in my collection, I didn't really catch them.
to Omar:
nothing like that, that it stings very painfully! wink.gif I was stung once. The pain is small, as if from a bumblebee sting, after half an hour disappears wink.gif

03.04.2008 5:45, taler

So this is someone like.An ordinary apiary bee kills me in 3 hours, others treat sciatica with them.

03.04.2008 8:54, omar

I also visited the Saratov region several times and I got the impression that this is a common speciessmile.gif, although the Red Book of the region indicates that this is an extremely rare species, such as there have been no finds at all recently. One X. valga from there is in my collection, I didn't really catch them.
to Omar:
nothing like that, that it stings very painfully! wink.gif I was stung once. The pain is small, as if from a bumblebee sting, disappears in half an hour wink.gif

I really didn't like it. Although, of course, if you walk barefoot on broken glass, sleep on nails, and practice flagellation to normalize life processes, then maybe nothing hurts more than a mosquito...

03.04.2008 9:12, Ekos

I really didn't like it. Although, of course, if you walk barefoot on broken glass, sleep on nails, and practice flagellation to normalize life processes, then maybe nothing hurts more than a mosquito...


Why do you have to be so nervous?! tongue.gif I said what was wrong with me. And the wasp, by the way, stings incomparably more painfully, more terribly, than xylocopa. And ordinary honeybees also hammer harder than carpenters. I've experienced everything, except maybe the hornet smile.gif
Essno, all this is connected with the individual characteristics of the human body, maybe someone has a terrible allergy to these cases, I do not argue smile.gif

03.04.2008 9:50, Vlad Proklov

For sure, the amount of poison administered once at a time is not necessary, so you have a different experience.

I remember how polist fucked me in Portugal and how I got sick! On the other hand, in the Ryazan region, we were camped apparently next to a hornet's nest, because we had to live together smile.gif They beat me three or four times a day-and nothing serious, after half an hour it didn't hurt almost. Although different types of poisons and, accordingly, the body's reactions are different...
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03.04.2008 11:39, Mylabris

Reactions to bites are purely individual things. Wasps, bees and bumblebees - my burning sensation goes away in 5 minutes, after half an hour it's hard to remember where exactly it stung. But the ants are myrmicks... It's a song like they make my whole body swell.
I even put in experiments on myself - I applied 5 or 6 different types of workers. The largest tumor (the size of a 5kop coin) was from Myrmica rubra (in our city in the gardens), 700-800 m and M. lobicornis (highlands up to 3200m).
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03.04.2008 20:08, Tigran Oganesov

For sure, the amount of poison administered once at a time is not necessary, so you have a different experience.

Reactions to bites are purely individual things.


Both are right: the amount of poison varies and the body's response is different. Moreover, the reaction may vary in the same person depending on age and condition.

03.04.2008 22:01, Cerambyx

Baguk:
I think it's violacea

Nope, valga. I think there is no violacea in Tatarstan.
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09.04.2008 9:07, alexpine

Can you tell me who it is? Taken in the Yaroslavl region.

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09.04.2008 13:34, алекс 2611

The first photo - as I understand it, a sawfly from the family Tenthredinidae, a family that is difficult for me-I tried to understand it, but I couldn't.

Second photo - wasp Vespula rufa (family Vespidae - fold-winged wasps)
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