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Identification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

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06.04.2007 8:58, Sv Kononova

I wanted to distinguish exactly to the type - after all, someone has yellow stripes, someone has white ones, and someone has them equally.
If it is impossible to distinguish, then I will simply "put" all the bumblebees in the Bombus folder.
But how do you ask questions about it? It turned out to be very large... - "BUMBLEBEES" "and there are about forty cards in it."

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Please tell me if I can use your help to sort them by type or not. shuffle.gif

06.04.2007 9:07, omar

I think that posting at least the most successful photos is worth it. Your pictures are of good quality and serve as a decoration of the forum-IMHO It's a pity that you don't shoot beetles rolleyes.gif
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06.04.2007 9:25, Sv Kononova

It's a pity you don't shoot beetles rolleyes.gif

Thanks smile.gif
But I really shoot beetles! Just with their definition, I figured out with the help of the project "Beetles and coleopterologists".
My beetles live here here smile.gif
Well, what will be new and incomprehensible in the coming season-I will definitely show and ask here, on the forum, because in "Beetles and Coleopterologists" all the time someone is away, on expeditions, etc., so the answer has to wait quite a long time smile.gif
And you are always somewhere nearby smile.gif- you can ask and hope for an answer not in the next century, but today-tomorrow-the day after tomorrow smile.gifis encouraging!

But I haven't figured out how to deal with bumblebees yet.
Here I showed two completely different pictures (Fig. 1 and Fig.2) - on one bumblebee has two white stripes, and on the other - tolmgj one. So they belong to different types? Or not? If "yes", then I can sort all my bumblebees exactly by the number of white stripes and then look in more detail at each one within these "striped" groups.

06.04.2007 9:42, Tigran Oganesov

Svetlana, please add the date and place of shooting to your photos, it helps a lot!
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06.04.2007 9:46, Насекомовед

You have on your site in beetles marked "family CASSIDINAE SCHITONOSKI". The ending -INAE corresponds to the status of a subfamily. For a family, the ending must be-IDAE. Take a look at "Beetles and coleopterologists" as correctly smile.gif
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06.04.2007 11:22, omar

Schitonoski is a subfamily, not a family, so at least Latin is fine! wink.gif

06.04.2007 15:01, алекс 2611

Bumblebee #2 reminds me of Bombus hortorum. Bumblebee # 1 is clearly a different species. To Flax.I've never seen anything like this before. But in general, Bolivar is right: it is very difficult to distinguish bumblebees from photos...
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06.04.2007 16:41, Sv Kononova

Svetlana, please add the date and place of shooting to your photos, it helps a lot!

I repent mol.gifI always forget mol.gif
I will try to be more attentive in the future!!!

You have on your site in beetles marked "family CASSIDINAE SCHITONOSKI". The ending -INAE corresponds to the status of a subfamily. For a family, the ending must be-IDAE. Take a look at "Beetles and coleopterologists" how to do it correctly smile.gif

You're absolutely right! Thank you so much for the tip! I corrected the situation and brought the poor shield-noses into the general family of Leaf-eaters smile.gifwhere they belong!

Bumblebee #2 reminds me of Bombus hortorum. Bumblebee # 1 is clearly a different species. To Flax.I've never seen anything like this before. But in general, Bolivar is right: it is very difficult to distinguish bumblebees from photos...

But does the number of yellow and white stripes matter? Or does it not matter?

This post was edited by Sv_Kononova - 04/06/2007 16: 43

07.04.2007 6:57, Sv Kononova

But this is a completely different bumblebee-in color.
Can it be identified?

user posted image
Moscow region, 2004

This post was edited by Sv_Kononova - 04/20/2007 16: 02

11.04.2007 7:12, Sv Kononova

Good day, dear ones!
I don't have many unidentified people left yet bumblebees.
Please take a look at the bumblebee in my previous post - maybe you can define it to the form shuffle.gif

13.04.2007 7:28, Sv Kononova

And again, good afternoon, dear friends smile.gif

Please tell me what kind of bee it might be?

user posted image
Moscow region, 2005

And what kind of sawfly could it be?
user posted image
Moscow region, 2006


Thanks!

This post was edited by Sv_Kononova - 13.04.2007 07: 49

13.04.2007 8:13, omar

The last photo shows a sawfly.
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13.04.2007 11:08, Bad Den

The last photo shows a sawfly.

From sem. Tenthredinidae, I would even say.
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13.04.2007 19:23, Sv Kononova

Thanks! You've more or less decided on the sawfly smile.gif
What about the bee?

And I have another "UFO"...

user posted image
Moscow region, 2006

14.04.2007 10:05, omar

UFO babbling fly

14.04.2007 11:38, алекс 2611

Common Myathropa florea....
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18.04.2007 12:58, AVA

Sawflies:
1. Stalk sawfly (family Cephidae), similar to Trachelus tabidus
2. Tenthredo sp.

Other e-mails:
1. Bumblebee Bombus sp., from this angle the view is not
very clear, Like Polistes dominulus (4-male)
3. Polistes sp. What a wonderful sheet!
5. Ammophila sp. I don't know what species live there.
6. Bee from sem. Andrenidae like
7. Similar to Dasypoda sp.
8. Honey bee Apis mellifera
9. I don't know that.


1. And you do the right thing when you don't talk about the view. It's not even a bumblebee. There are only two submarginal cells here!

5. Not Amophila, but Prionyx kirbyi

9. Most likely, some kind of Andrena. It is impossible to tell more precisely from the image – there are enough black species in the genus.

18.04.2007 13:02, AVA

To the genus or to the species? All our bumblebees belong to the genus Bombus (bumblebee)


In general, ALL bumblebees now belong to the genus Bombus, dividing it into many subgenera. And the cuckoo bumblebees are just one of them.
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18.04.2007 13:08, AVA

And again, good afternoon, dear friends smile.gif

Please tell me what kind of bee it might be?

user posted image
Moscow region, 2005

And what kind of sawfly could it be?
user posted image
Moscow region, 2006
Thank you!


Bee is, judging by the shape of the head in profile, a female Halictus. Even with the material, it can be difficult to determine them to the point of appearance.
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18.04.2007 13:15, AVA

These are the larvae of gamas mites.


Yes, the Gamazovs. But not larvae, but hypopuses.
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18.04.2007 20:02, алекс 2611

1. And you do the right thing when you don't talk about the view. It's not even a bumblebee. There are only two submarginal cells here!



Like Osmia of some kind?

18.04.2007 20:09, алекс 2611

Bee is, judging by the shape of the head in profile, a female Halictus. Even with the material, it can be difficult to determine them to the point of appearance.


Halictus? I was not too lazy - I took out a box with bees. Rather, Andrena of some kind. And the head shape is exactly the same.....
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19.04.2007 11:13, Tigran Oganesov

1. And you do the right thing when you don't talk about the view. It's not even a bumblebee. There are only two submarginal cells here!
I confess, I didn't even look at the wings frown.gif
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19.04.2007 13:49, omar

20.04.2007 23:07, BO.

Help me determine it. Astrakhan region, April 17. A vineyard .Circled by the sound, swarming in the dry leaves.

The post was edited by BO. - 20.04.2007 23:17

Pictures:
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21.04.2007 23:58, BO.

  
for VO: I would really like to see wing venation for bees. Without this, you can get so confused when defining....

You can see it in this photo. Why do some bees have yellow leg hair like in the first photo, while others have reddish hair like in this photo?The view is exactly the same , they graze together on plum blossoms.

Pictures:
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22.04.2007 9:56, алекс 2611

P_1190145.JPG - most likely some kind of Osmia. To the view-pass.

Pweb1190581.jpg Now you can immediately see! A bee of the genus Andrena. If the definition is fundamentally up to the type - I can sit for a week, think.

At the expense of the different color of the pubescence of the hind legs, I can offer one version: bees collect pollen from plants on these hairs.Pollen of different plant species can be white, yellow, and red. Often I came across this until I didn't learn how to clean pollen from the hairs before determining.

22.04.2007 22:14, mamaNikiMaxa

Tell me what kind of insect, pliz!
picture: ________________.JPG Kiev, April

This post was edited by mamaNikiMaxa - 04/27/2007 12: 30

22.04.2007 23:13, BO.

P_1190145.JPG - most likely some kind of Osmia. To the view-pass.

Pweb1190581.jpg Now you can immediately see! A bee of the genus Andrena. If the definition is fundamentally up to the type - I can sit for a week, think.

At the expense of the different color of the pubescence of the hind legs, I can offer one version: bees collect pollen from plants on these hairs.Pollen of different plant species can be white, yellow, and red. Often I came across this until I didn't learn how to clean pollen from the hairs before determining.

Thank you very much! If you do not mind, I would like to see the view. And a close-up view of the Osmia wing won't help with a more precise definition ?

23.04.2007 1:34, guest: Елена

I know that it is difficult, but can someone tell me if Rufa's formica is in the picture
user posted image
user posted image
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23.04.2007 7:18, Mylabris

A bee of some sort. Ask the moderator to drop it in the "Definition of Hymenoptera" section.

While it will be here, otherwise the author will not find the answer

This post was edited by Bolivar - 04/24/2007 08: 54
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23.04.2007 21:32, алекс 2611

Thank you very much! If you do not mind, I would like to see the view. And a close-up view of the Osmia wing won't help with a more precise definition ?



At the expense of Osmia - I will not determine exactly to the type.
At the expense of Andrena - if possible, I would like to know the size of bees and how often they visit flowers (at least up to the family)

By default, I assume that the bees are from the Astrakhan region?

23.04.2007 21:40, алекс 2611

I know that it is difficult, but can someone tell me if Rufa's formica is in the picture



Oh, not F. rufa...... I would call it Formica lugubris, and they have similar nests themselves...
But you understand - Formica from the photo to the view... Heavily...

23.04.2007 21:56, Guest

Oh, not F. rufa...... I would call it Formica lugubris, and they have similar nests themselves...
But you understand - Formica from the photo to the view... Heavily...

Eh, I understand) lugubris like territorialno should not be/ I thought on rufa or polyctena.
But thanks anyway)

23.04.2007 22:53, алекс 2611

Male bee of the genus Andrena

24.04.2007 16:36, алекс 2611

Eh, I understand) lugubris like territorialno should not be/ I thought on rufa or polyctena.
But thanks anyway)



It doesn't look like rufa or polyctena at all. Yes, and the nest is very peculiar, I met such in coniferous forests, usually there were lugubris ( maybe I misidentified?).
And why is lugubris not suitable geographically? Where did the photo come from?

25.04.2007 11:26, BO.

At the expense of Osmia - I will not determine exactly to the type.
At the expense of Andrena - if possible, I would like to know the size of bees and how often they visit flowers (at least up to the family)

By default, I assume that the bees are from the Astrakhan region?

Thanks! Yes, the Astrakhan region. I saw these bees on primroses ,very small yellow flowers. The last picture in the garden on a blooming cherry plum. The size is just over 1 cm

25.04.2007 18:37, алекс 2611

I identified this bee as Andrena flavipes Pz.
But I warn you: when determining from the photo, all sorts of errors are possible!!!!

PS
And the photo is good!
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01.05.2007 6:50, Dinusik

Dear colleagues, please help me determine. In the photos, however, not all the details are visible, but it can be at least up to the genus...

Pictures:
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picture: PC070287.JPG
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picture: P8300045.JPG
P8300045.JPG — (38.82к)

01.05.2007 11:24, алекс 2611

Photo P8300090 reminds me of a wasp of the genus Cerceris (Sphecidae).
photo P8300045 some pompila wasp (Pompilidae), then -???

If you are photographing bees and wasps, then try to take a photo that shows the veins of at least the front wings. Without them, well, very hard....

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