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02.11.2010 17:34, Tigran Oganesov

And in Gorowan, the impressive Sphingonotus nebulosus persa.

Is this it?
picture: ereb.jpg

02.11.2010 19:14, PVOzerski

The ones I met had different elytra coloration. And the hind wings are purple-pink with a wide dark band - a characteristic feature. Is this photo also from Goran? smile.gif

02.11.2010 23:40, Tigran Oganesov

This is Erebuni, smile.gifbut I don't remember the rear wings at all. This male, by the way, sang...
Here's another photo from the same place. Oedipoda?
picture: ereb2.jpg

02.11.2010 23:52, PVOzerski

Yeah. Accordingly, rear fenders are needed to determine up to a view. In Garni there was Oe. miniata-with red ones.
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03.11.2010 22:58, Tigran Oganesov

Alas, as always, I do not remember frown.gifThere were so many of these "locusts" that my memory is overloaded...

04.11.2010 9:07, PVOzerski

I also met a rather nice filly named Ramburiella bolivari (Kuthy, 1907) there (in Garni, I think, higher than the temple).

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 04.11.2010 11: 06
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05.11.2010 9:55, Tigran Oganesov

I also met a rather nice filly named Ramburiella bolivari (Kuthy, 1907) there (in Garni, I think, higher than the temple).

Isn't that her?
picture: ereb3.jpg

05.11.2010 13:32, PVOzerski

No, it's prus frown.gif. And I won't even say which one - the legs are in the wrong angle. I think, however, that tenuicercis is if the photo is from Garni. There, only tenuicercis came across with this color. In general, the lower legs of their hind legs are yellow, not red - but here it is poorly visible.

I tried to find a photo of R. bolivari on the Web - unfortunately, I didn't find it. Here, I found photos of a close view that give some idea.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7618817@N07/3924398848/

http://www.pyrgus.de/bilder1/acrididae/hispanica_i.jpg

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 05.11.2010 16: 03
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05.11.2010 19:52, Tigran Oganesov

No, it's prus frown.gif. And I won't even say which one - the legs are in the wrong angle. I think, however, that tenuicercis is if the photo is from Garni. There, only tenuicercis came across with this color. In general, the lower legs of their hind legs are yellow, not red - but here it is poorly visible.

I tried to find a photo of R. bolivari on the Web - unfortunately, I didn't find it. Here, I found photos of a close view that give some idea.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7618817@N07/3924398848/

http://www.pyrgus.de/bilder1/acrididae/hispanica_i.jpg

Alas, I don't remember how it's usually frown.gifErebuni again.
You will need to post more critters.

06.11.2010 4:05, Baguk

Abkhazia, August.
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From what looked like Omocestus haemorrhoidalis here.

06.11.2010 15:01, PVOzerski

No, this is Chorthippus from the subgenus Glyptobothrus, a male. It is clear that not biguttulus - but rather difficult. The group is difficult to define. You need, for example, to watch the chirping spines from inside the back thighs - and I think that without recordings of chirping, it's still unreliable.
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07.11.2010 13:57, DanMar

In Crimea near Foros(the same as in the first message) There were also other erect wings that I didn't identify.. small, similar to grasshopper No. 1 (photo 1) but much smaller in size(about 1-1. 5 cm).. What kind of grasshoppers?(photos 1-5)

07.11.2010 14:53, PVOzerski

Well, I'll write you, for example, Tessellana vittata or Miramiola pusilla - but how to check something if there is no photo? Use these names to search for photos on the web-what if you guessed right?

11.11.2010 13:30, Penzyak

What is this type of sevchuk? Photo in the meadow steppe, July 2009 (Penza region).

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11.11.2010 22:49, PVOzerski

In my opinion, no one can deal with these sevchukas right now: they are trying to combine both species into one.
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12.11.2010 23:09, Dracus

Well, in general, the photo is quite "classic" O. servillei, as it seems to me

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13.11.2010 1:05, DanMar

eek.gif Sorry, there was a problem with the browser... here
are small photos, about 1 cm in length.
Female:picture: IMG_7533.JPG
male:picture: IMG_7536.JPG
muzzle:picture: IMG_7539.JPG

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13.11.2010 1:07, DanMar

A search on the Internet, as always, did not give results (((

13.11.2010 11:38, PVOzerski

Still, Tessellana vittata smile.gifIf Tessellana is considered only a subgenus, then it is called Platycleis vittata - and this name is very even found.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 13.11.2010 11: 39
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13.11.2010 15:23, DanMar

Still, Tessellana vittata smile.gifIf Tessellana is considered only a subgenus, then it is called Platycleis vittata - and this name is very even found.

Thank you... what a pity that I ask a lot of questions, I'm just very interested, I'm only in the 8th grade... I just want to catch a few new species of grasshoppers over the summer, shoot them, put photos in the collection, maybe somehow I'll learn how to breed them... of course, there is nothing like this on the Internet(grasshopper lovers clubsmile.gif), so I write only here. shuffle.gif
Question:
- Where (landscape and conditions, as well as distribution) can ruspolia nitidula be found???
-Why gray (mottled grasshopper) in the Ukrainian polesie(Zhytomyr, Kiev region) I met it on the edges of the forest, while in large open meadows it was not???
Thanks for understanding.

13.11.2010 17:02, PVOzerski

There is a suggestion to start further topics about the way of life of insects in the section "Life and mores of insects". As for Ruspolia , I once caught it right on the lawns in Adler (a suburb of Sochi). This is my only experience with this grasshopper.

As for why the gray grasshopper is found in some meadows and is not found in others-this again will have to guess. Maybe it's the different ages of the meadows, or maybe it's something else.
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14.11.2010 2:14, Alex KNZ

The swordfish Ruspolia nitidula (Large Conehead) is known to be widespread in Western Europe and does not go only to the north (i.e., no further than about 55 n). I believe that moving to the east, taking into account the weakening influence of the Gulf Stream and lowering winter temperatures, the range of the species slides down, reaching in our territory southern Ukraine and southern Russia. In the east of Ukraine (48.9 n), it has never been found. That is, it spreads (I assume) no higher than 48 n. At the same time, it is rare in the north of its range. It is very common on the Azov and Black Sea coasts, and is common in the Crimea, Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol, Kalmykia, and Dagestan. Likes (as we have already said) wet places, sometimes near reservoirs, shrubs, shady parks with thickets. It is easy to recognize the sound at night (very loud "metallic" rattling)...
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14.11.2010 2:21, Alex KNZ

Grasshoppers of the genus Decticus can have a mysteriously long diapause; in one year they are not present, and in another they can appear in the most unexpected places where they have long been forgotten, sometimes in crazy numbers =)

This post was edited by Alex KNZ - 11/14/2010 02: 22
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14.11.2010 13:29, DanMar

Thank you so much, it's strange how many times I've been to the Crimea(Koktebel, Foros, Yalta), I've never met a Great Swordsman... Constantly came across a huge number of white-fronted grasshoppers, acridae, plate-wings, large shrubby birds, even caught a rack:
picture: IMG_7901.JPG
but this swordsman wasn't caught. And this year I caught a gray grasshopper in Kiev in a park near the metro (!). Interestingly, the park is very small, surrounded on all sides by streets with quite active traffic,
especially the grasshopper found almost in the most passable part of the park. And it was not accidentally brought there, I heard the song of the male, and caught the female. Where in the city did it come from?

14.11.2010 13:46, Tigran Oganesov

As for Ruspolia , I once caught it right on the lawns in Adler (a suburb of Sochi). This is my only experience with this grasshopper.
That's right, there are a lot of them in Sochismile.gif, only Adler is not a suburb, but a microdistrict of Sochi.

14.11.2010 13:58, DanMar

Gampsocleis schelkovnikovae - what kind of species?
Gampsocleis glabra-is there one in the steppe Crimea?
Gampsocleis sedakovi-only found in Siberia?
Here it is also marked in Ukraine:
http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/Common/e...axonNameID=8715

14.11.2010 16:33, PVOzerski

G. sshelkovnikovae looks very similar to Tettigonia viridissima - but the plantar lobes on the hind legs give it away with the head. Although a slight "netettigonistost" is felt immediately.

G. sedakovii-in Siberia, it goes far to the west and North (here on the forum its photos are posted from the forest tundra) - but there are doubts about the west of the Urals (except in the very east of the European part of Russia, you can search). The map is clearly incomplete (as they honestly warn you about, by the way).

G. glabra-very likely in the Ukrainian steppes, including the Crimea, as its range extends almost all over the south of Europe. It is also available in Asia. In Kyrgyzstan, these grasshoppers are kept in dense kurtins of the tall grass chiya (vaguely resembling reed or veynik), males chirp with loud long trills. Judging by the reviews of those who caught it, G. sedakovii also chirps very loudly.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 14.11.2010 16: 44
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15.11.2010 17:34, Alex KNZ

Ruspolia nitidula I just saw in Koktebel, in some park on the right side of the road to Sudak. I was sitting on a blade of grass. And the white-browed ones were everywhere, in the steppe, in the trees in the yard, in landfills...)) It was August 2009. And as for the gray grasshopper near the metro, I will assume that the earth was brought there with laid eggs )) I met tettigonia cantans near my institute in Moscow in early July. He definitely did not swim across Yauza and did not cross the road =)

This post was edited by Alex KNZ - 11/15/2010 17: 46
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15.11.2010 21:00, DanMar

Thanks!

15.11.2010 21:33, DanMar

I wonder what causes such a huge number of white-fronted grasshoppers...
Tell me, is it necessary to cool the soil in which their eggs are stored?
I am also interested in your opinion about the unfriendly fig under the ovipositor of the female... http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=41&t=415310&st=0

16.11.2010 15:49, Alex KNZ

In 2008, there was a white-fronted invasion in Crimea and southern Russia due to a supposedly favorable winter and warm, rainy spring. There were clouds of them. I was in the Crimea, in Feodosia in August 2007 - I didn't see or hear a single decticus albifrons!!! But the interesting thing is that there were a lot of decticus verrucivorus. So diapause exists and it is not at all clear what affects it and hatching, you need to investigate for a long time. I think you can cool it, but not much. A little about this is written in Fabre issue 1993, volume 2 (the whole chapter is the White-fronted Grasshopper). There the eggs lay for one winter, until the sand moistened and hatched. I don't say anything about the black stuff, but I don't know why they died so quickly. Maybe really from old age, the spring was very early..and then the stress of transportation. How did you transport them? I brought 3 males and 2 females to the Luhansk region last year, they lived for a total of 5 days, everything is fine, released =)
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/viridissima/view/92929/?page=0
I won't be lucky any more, it's a horror of some kind how they chatter, disturb people, do not let them sleep at night!!! The train conductor thought there was something wrong with the car!

This post was edited by Alex KNZ - 11/16/2010 18: 24
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17.11.2010 19:15, PVOzerski

Just transfer the data from southern France to the Crimea carefully: the situation with diapause can be very different for different geographical populations.
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18.11.2010 3:00, Alex KNZ

I agree, I just gave the facts, but there are no conclusions yet.
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28.11.2010 15:50, Sworgkh

user posted image
And who knows what this miracle of seasoning is?
he didn't answer my personal question about who he was smile.gif
Thank you in advance
Its length is about 12-8cm
Discovered on 26/11/2010
in the Judean Desert area of Israel
More photos

This post was edited by Sworgkh - 28.11.2010 16: 34

28.11.2010 18:12, PVOzerski

Family Pyrgomorphidae. Similar to Poekilocerus bufonius

28.11.2010 20:08, Sworgkh

Poekilocerus bufonius Found an article in Hebrew by this name this is exactly it!
Thank you very much smile.gif
It turns out that it is also poisonous.

29.11.2010 12:17, rimidalv

tell me who it is if you can in Latin

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29.11.2010 12:21, rimidalv

caught near Bryansk

29.11.2010 12:37, Vlad Proklov

caught near Bryansk

Psophus stridulus.
Can you name a specific location?

29.11.2010 15:45, rimidalv

Thank you, I immediately found several links on the Internet. Not far from Bryansk on the forest edge...

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