Identification of Orthoptera (grasshoppers, crickets, etc.)

Exactly, yesterday I caught only 3 pieces!!! I don't understand where they came from. Suddenly, a terrible thud, crack, and the sky turned gray!!! I went straight to the street, caught the firs!!! This is terrible!!! Shot down in flight! It is impossible to approach it! And they fly high! I caught an hour! But finally: Here is a pair of living and deceased:

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Can someone tell me about subspecies? 1-larger 2,3-pair (there were green individuals in the pack).

This is the migratory locust Locusta migratoria L., the herd phase is ph. gregaria.
Very interesting. I'd like to see it. I've never seen anything like it. At my house, only single individuals are occasionally found. I once caught a very large individual of a migratory locust late at night in wet grass (after rain). Under these conditions, the locusts, like all other insects, were very inhibited. I was lucky to be able to see her among the stalks of vegetation.
Tell me, how often do you have locust infestations in the Moscow region?

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/15/2011 23: 22

Last year, there was only one green card... I couldn't catch her... I flew up and knocked down a wagtail!!! This is the 2nd time this year. Even 6 years ago it was!

Dear Anax chernobila, please send me some more photos of my favorite insects. I will be very happy. By the way, on this forum dedicated to pryamoptera, once posted photos of very interesting pryamoptera.

Here it is:
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I think I know what kind of insect it is. This is Acanthoplus longipes (Charpentier, 1845). A very similar species, Acanthoplus discoidalis (Walker, 1869), lives in these same territories. I'm not sure if this is A. longipes - not a very good angle. It would be desirable to take a full-face photo of the head.

The lower edges of the antennal cavities are located below the lower edge of the eyes, as in the family Bradyporidae. However, representatives of this genus are classified in the Tettigoniidae family. I still haven't fully figured out why.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/16/2011 22: 08

What do you mean your favorites? You didn't tell me anything about them, but I'll be happy to take some pictures...

Do you know anything about Dreamadoos? Here I brought it from Alanya, I wonder if it's Drymadusa limbata limbata, Drymadusa limbata grandis or Drymadusa dorsalis?
Who knows what Decticus mithati is?

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Decticus nigrescens-WHO IS IT?

According to the determinant Drymadusa dorsalis lives in Greece, and the color there is completely different, the stripe on the forehead is clearly visible. So Drymadusa limbata, but I don't know what subspecies. Most likely, grandis, a subspecies of limbata, is described as living on the territory of Uzbekistan-Turkmenistan. But I'm not sure. It is possible that both subspecies live in that region. For example, in the photo, the grasshopper has shorter wings and is colored more brownish than mine.

Decticus mithati is probably a subspecies of Decticus verrucivorus mithati, described in East Asia.

Decticus nigrescens is a mysterious species of the genus Decticus recorded in Buryatia. Moreover, there are no photos of him on the Internet at all(at the time of creating the message)! According to one of the sites(I don't remember which one), it has a larger size than Decticus verrucivorus, rather like Decticus albifrons, and it was also said that its elytra are wider but shorter.

From yourself:
The genus Medecticus is also a funny thing. The network, in my opinion, has everything two Photo. In addition, for some reason it is attributed to the Tettigoniini tribe, while it should belong to the Decticini tribe by morphological characteristics(based on those two photos), and the genus name is appropriate.

This post was edited by DanMar - 06.10.2011 23: 24

I posted earlier on the definition of Drymadusa limbata larvae, but they only defined up to the tribe, since (I was told so) experts are better versed in our species than in overseas ones. I had to independently search for the determinants, and the answer was found! However, only after molting on the imago..

I've never seen a single live or dried Dreamadusa in my life! You say you caught this grasshopper in Alanya? As far as I know, Drymadusa limbata grandis Karabag, 1961, lives only in Turkey, and Drymadusa limbata limbata Brunner von Wattenwyl, 1882, lives in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan. Drymadusa limbata limbata is not found in Turkey.

There is a subspecies of Decticus verrucivorus, such as Decticus verrucivorus mithati Ramme, 1939. Its range is extremely wide - more than half of Eurasia. It differs expressively in its relatively very small elytra and wings (somewhat reminds me of Platycleis vittata).

As for Decticus nigrescens Tarbinsky, 1930, this species was described by Seraphim Petrovich Tarbinsky (an outstanding entomologist, author of the famous insect identifier) in 1930. And at this address you can download His article, in which D. nigrescens is described in detail: http://www.biologiezentrum.at/pdf_frei_rem...9_0177-0190.pdf

Not only is Decticus nigrescens Tarbinsky so mysterious. There are a whole mountain of other insect species described in detail once and never seen again by any entomologist. Including straight-winged ones.


Edited: Sorry, the error came out - both Drymadusa limbata grandis and Drymadusa limbata limbata are found in Turkey. The second species is Drymadusa dorsalis (Brullé, 1832).

This post was edited by Dichelima - 18.08.2011 00: 22

Drymadusa limbata limbata Brunner von Wattenwyl, 1882, native to Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan. Drymadusa limbata limbata is not found in Turkey.

So, the subspecies grandis still came out. To be more precise, they were caught on the edges and in the forest near the village of Goinuk, near the city of Kemer, Antalya region. The animals themselves are very interesting and large. The largest members of this subfamily I've ever seen. Very loud! If there were more species of this genus...

To be more precise, they were caught on the edges and in the forest near the village of Goinuk, near the city of Kemer, Antalya region.

Well, even so, the main thing is that on the territory of Turkey. I looked at the website "Check-list of the Turkish Orthoptera" - the list includes both subspecies of Drymadusa limbata-and grandis Karabağ, 1961, and limbata Brunner von Wattenwyl, 1882. Wait, let's think about it. Have you tried using the caller ID?

Well, well, well. Here, I found it.

1.) The hindwings are probably transparent, the posterior edge of the pronotum describes a parabola, not a circle, the pronotum without a longitudinal groove. So we have characteristic features for the genus Drymadusa.

2.) There is an expressive black spot in the corner of the shoulder notch. Elytra are brick red with a long black spot on the posterior basal angle. This means that we are dealing with Drymadusa limbata, and not with Drymadusa dorsalis (it has an indistinct narrow dark spot in the corner of the shoulder notch, the wings are colored gray with white spots, without a long dark spot on the posterior basal angle).

(I suggest you take a picture of the churches in high resolution, so that it is clearly visible from all sides, post a photo on the forum; or go through the key below.)

3.) To determine the subspecies, follow the key:

1 (2) Pronotum is more slender, elytra narrower. Appendages of the last tergite - as in Figure 1. Cerci are not very large, gradually curved; their upper part is pointed, the outer corner is rounded, see Fig. 3. Titillator as shown in fig. 5...........................................................................................................................................................................................................D. limbata limbata
2 (1) Pronotum more densely built, elytra very wide. Appendages of the last tergite-as in Fig. 2. Cerci are very large, strongly curved in the main third; their upper parts are very long and thin, the outer angle is subacute, see as in Fig. 4. Titillator as shown in fig. 6....................................................................................................................................................................................................D. limbata grandis



And although, in your photo, you can see the edge of the left cercle of this male - there is a very large prong. It seems that this is still Drymadusa limbata grandis. But still, post photos of tserok, just in case.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 18.08.2011 00: 31

Dear entomologists,

Help the amateur. Grasshoppers are not something I can define, they are very diverse.

This one, for example. Short-whiskered erect-winged locusts, Subsem. Acridinae, but this is the species...
Thank you in advance.



Moscow region, Klin district.

This post was edited by NatFree - 18.08.2011 07: 53

Thank you very much! I'm really glad I finally figured out Drymadusa! Post your photos of these grasshoppers, I will be glad!

Here, actually on my male on definition. It's hard to tell by the names of the churches, because they look different from different points of view. And I don't have any serious qualifiers at all. I'll find out everything via the Internet.

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And here is the female Drymadusa limbata

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Who can mail (ME) a live (adult) Dybka grasshopper or a praying mantis?

Here, actually on my male on definition.

Thank you for the wonderful photos - for the tip of the male's belly and for the female of this species! This is D. limbata grandis-I'm sure now. In Turkey, this subspecies is more common - it occurs much more frequently than D. limbata limbata.

And I don't have any serious qualifiers at all. I'll find out everything via the Internet.

I also find serious qualifiers only through the Internet - in the paper version, such books are not available to me (and not only to me, but probably to everyone in general). Here is where I downloaded the book "Revision of Drymadusa stein and related genera" for free: http://www.archive.org/details/bulletinofbritis11entoond

Write on the forum!

This post was edited by Dichelima - 18.08.2011 21: 41

... erect-winged locusts ... Moscow region, Klin district.

I think it's Chorthippus (Chorthippus) parallelus parallelus (Zetterstedt, 1821).

Here is where I downloaded the book "Revision of drymadusa stein and related genera" for free: http://www.archive.org/details/bulletinofbritis11entoond

Thank you very much, I will use it. Do you know where else you can find such literature? I have recently been studying and using the taxonomy of orthoptera on the OSF Online site. There seemed to be keys to the species, but I didn't go into their details, besides,they were for tropical species.

Who can mail (ME) a live (adult) Dybka grasshopper or a praying mantis?          

Bogomolov seems to be discussed here, and they don't mind exchanging or selling ooteks: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=211872&st=750
I don't know who else keeps the dybok, so I will say that I have a female of an unknown species of dybok from the same Antalya laid eggs, but recently my parents poisoned her with a poison butterfly . There is still a male dybka, who is sad and idle, and next year I expect offspring. By the way, no one understands the types of Saga??? If you have any suggestions, then be sure to write, as I could not determine. I know exactly: this is not S. ephippigera and I think that it is not S. natolinae, or I have bred some nedorosli?

This post was edited by DanMar - 18.08.2011 22: 45

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DanMar, is this Tettigonia caudata?
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DanMar, is this Tettigonia caudata?

Absolutely true!

... on the OSF Online website.

To be honest, this book is also from there-from the strpnitsa "genus Drymadusa Stein, 1860".

... female of an unknown species of dybka ...

So, I'll think about it. Most of the known dybok species live in Turkey. There are many possible options. Can I still take photos from other angles?

The species is unknown to ME personally. I couldn't determine it myself, because I don't know what to pay attention to for the difference. Moreover, all (almost all) specimens were presented in dried form, and they are very different from live ones. I think it's either S. hellenica or S. rammei. Regarding the latter, I have one link: http://www.theinsectcollector.com/acatalog/info_6798.html

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And this is a link to an obscure photo report where it is written about the crossing of dybok species: steppe and S. hellenica. http://geem06.free.fr/etudesaga/photos

The type is unknown ...
... I could not determine ...

Good! I will think ( ).

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/20/2011 17: 20

The species is unknown to ME personally. I couldn't determine it myself, because I don't know what to pay attention to for the difference. Moreover, all (almost all) specimens were presented in dried form, and they are very different from live ones. I think it's either S. hellenica or S. rammei. Regarding the latter, I have one link: http://www.theinsectcollector.com/acatalog/info_6798.html

Sorry for the flame, but the pin is painfully "cool". It makes me shiver..............

Sorry for the flame, but the pin is painfully "cool". It makes me shiver..............

I only found this one at the dacha

... either S. hellenica or S. rammei ...

But these two species are definitely not found in Turkey.

I know exactly: this is not S. ephippigera ...

Yes, I also agree.

... and I think that not S. natolinae ...

But why not? In my opinion, this is it. It's just that you've come across individuals who don't have olive-brown spots on their heads and legs. Such individuals are also often found. I think it is Saga natoliae Serville, 1838.
Wonderful animals. And you keep them at home?

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/20/2011 19: 10

Hello everyone I came back with pruses: 2,3,4-Alanya. 1-Astrakhan.

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But why not? In my opinion, this is it. It's just that you've come across individuals who don't have olive-brown spots on their heads and legs. Such individuals are also often found. I think it is Saga natoliae Serville, 1838.
Wonderful animals. And you keep them at home?

Unless, the muzzle of S. natoliae is very round and with small eyes:




My face is like this:





Also in S. natoliae, the ovipositor is smooth, curved upwards and without noticeable notches:




Mine is straight and dark:

Here, in my opinion, is similar!: Saga rhodiensis, sorry, habitats in Greece
http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/Common/b...axonNameID=7778

And please tell me(I don't understand anything about grasshoppers)..In our village in the Yaroslavl region, grasshoppers are bright green on top and pink-red on the bottom or rather on the side..Are there any of these?Or how I once heard in one program that if grasshoppers are red, then the ecology is bad..It was very scary..

Such that-whether:
These are gray grasshoppers (Decticus verrucivorus), their color is very diverse. It seems to me that their pigmentation depends on nutrition at larval age.

It's been a long time since I've seen a good Decticus...

... Saga rhodiensis ...

Well, you're probably right. I didn't see the ovipositor. It would be nice to have a table from some determinant.

.. sorry, habitats in Greece ...

What about the Check-list of the Turkish Orthoptera? "There's Saga rhodiensis Salfi, 1929.
And the pictures on the OSF Online site are not bad, it's a pity that they are not suitable for all types.

so the environment is bad..

Ha-ha-ha, sorry for the flood, but this is the same as saying "bad math"

Dichelima: Thank you! Most likely, it is . But still, do not say unequivocally, the species are very similar. Moreover, the muzzle is not the same . I probably didn't feed them like that, so they didn't grow up, plus they weren't very big, unlike the ones in the photo that the uncle is holding in his arms.