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26.08.2011 23:28, Dichelima

Please tell me what these types of insects are called? Both of these species belong to the genus Phaneroptera Serville, 1831. I assume that species I.) is Phaneroptera falcata (Poda, 1761).

I.) Ukraine, Kiev-the end of August 2011, in a thicket of reeds near a reservoir.
Male: 1, 2.
Female: 1, 2.

II.) Ukraine, Crimea-late August 2010, in the thick green grass under a bush.
Male: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Female: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/27/2011 00: 01

27.08.2011 0:09, Olearius

Then I guess it's also Chorthippus parallelus???
(Voronezh Region)
They were bright green with no special pattern.
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27.08.2011 9:52, Dracus

Please tell me what these types of insects are called?

First - falcata, second - nana Fieber, 1853
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27.08.2011 10:26, Dichelima

The first is falcata, the second is nana Fieber, 1853
Thank you so much! To be honest, I recently came across Ph. falcata - I caught it the other day. The fact is that in the southern part of Ukraine, Ph. falcata is not found at all - instead, only Ph. nana lives there. And not only in the south of Ukraine, but also in the central part, Ph. nana is more common than Ph. falcata. But, as is clear from the literature, the common plate-wing is a typical species of almost any ecosystem. I even had doubts about the fact that the grasshoppers I caught in the Crimea are Ph. nana. Imagine that!

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/27/2011 11: 32

27.08.2011 10:33, Dichelima

A couple of times I came across animals in the Crimea similar to a single locust form, but completely green (including elytra) only the abdominal side, the lower legs of the hind legs, the first and second pair of legs (maybe also only the lower legs I don't remember exactly) yellow, both times they were in the bushes in the city, pretending to be leaves. Is this the color form of a migratory locust or some other species?
Dear John-ST, as my own experience of identifying insects only by verbal description shows, the accuracy of the definition (even of very large species) is a maximum of 30%. To determine the type of an insect, it is necessary to take into account all important morphological features. And if the specialist is very experienced, they can determine the view from high-resolution photos. So I can't say anything. You better upload a photo. If it's from the Crimea , they'll tell you. umnik.gif

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/27/2011 11: 13

27.08.2011 11:08, Dichelima

Then I guess it's also Chorthippus parallelus ???(Voronezh Region)They were bright green ez of a special pattern.
Thank you for your question, Olearius! I also have a lot of similar photos. Most likely, yours and mine are the same species. I didn't define it at all, but only photographed it for a long time. The material itself went bad, so I had to throw it away. Now I wonder what it was. Maybe someone caught and identified these locusts before and will identify them from the photo?

Ukraine, Kherson, in high green grass, August 2010
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Here are more photographs: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

PS: Do not repeat my mistake - do not dry out the erect-winged birds with bright colors and juicy bodies. They need to be pickled. umnik.gif

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/27/2011 15: 34
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27.08.2011 21:43, Olearius

Unfortunately, the images of C. montanus and C. parallelus do not load for me.
I would like to understand how these types differ.
Today I was collecting material in the immediate vicinity of St. Petersburg.
Here are four more hortippus similar to montanus and parallelus

The first:

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Second:


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Third:

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Fourth:

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27.08.2011 21:48, Olearius

Can someone tell me tetrix.
Also the neighborhood of St. Petersburg.


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27.08.2011 21:53, Olearius

And I still met such a person (North Roc. of St. Petersburg)

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27.08.2011 22:55, Dichelima

Then I guess it's also Chorthippus parallelus???
(Voronezh Region)
They were bright green with no special pattern.
So Olearius, if no one else on this forum will define us this locust, then we will simply assume that it is Chorthippus dorsatus (Zetterstedt, 1821), just unusually colored in a bright green color and with unusually long elytra that go beyond the hind knees. It looks like it is.

Unfortunately, the images of C. montanus and C. parallelus do not load for me.
I would like to understand how these types differ.
Today I was collecting material in the immediate vicinity of St. Petersburg.
Here are four more hortippus similar to montanus and parallelus
The first is most likely Chorthippus parallelus (Zetterstedt, 1821), male;
The second is Chorthippus parallelus (Zetterstedt, 1821), female;
The third is also Chorthippus parallelus (Zetterstedt, 1821), female;
the fourth is Chorthippus montanus (Charpentier, 1825), female.

These two species differ very well in the appearance of females, while males differ heavily (In males of Ch. parallelus, the lateral keels of the pronotum in the anterior part are less concave than in Ch. montanus. The elytra of Ch. parallelus cannot reach the hind knees, and the elytra of Ch. montanus can and sometimes are even longer. The apical capillae of Ch. montanus males are slightly narrower than those of Ch. parallelus and broadly rounded. In males of Ch. parallelus, the hind thighs are inside with fewer spines (75-130) than in Ch. montanus (102-177).

Can someone tell me tetrix.
Also the neighborhood of St. Petersburg.
This is Tetrix bipunctata (Linnaeus, 1758).

And I still met such a person (North Roc. of St. Petersburg)
This is Tetrix subulata (Linnaeus, 1758).

This post was edited by Dichelima - 08/27/2011 23: 13
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27.08.2011 23:14, Olearius

Many thanks to Dichelima.

This post was edited by Olearius - 08/27/2011 23: 15

27.08.2011 23:21, Dichelima

Olearius, cool photos! Send more!

27.08.2011 23:36, Olearius

Here's another tetrix caught today.

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27.08.2011 23:39, Dichelima

Here's another tetrix caught today.
This is also Tetrix bipunctata (Linnaeus, 1758), only without dots on the pronotum.
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28.08.2011 0:46, Dichelima

Help identify the cricket! Kiev, August 25, 2011 Caught in a gap between the curb slabs late in the evening (detected by the male's mating song).

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The same and other photos in high resolution: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 28.08.2011 00: 56

28.08.2011 9:35, Olearius

I assume it's Ch. montanus. Right ?
(from the Leningrad region)

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28.08.2011 10:06, Olearius

This question has arisen: is it possible to divide montanus and parallelus by genitalia ?

28.08.2011 11:42, Dichelima

I assume it's Ch. montanus. Right ?
(from the Leningrad region)
Well, I would tell you that it is not Ch. montanus, but Ch. paralellus. In my opinion, this is Ch. paralellus.

This question has arisen: is it possible to divide montanus and parallelus by genitalia ?
Probably, there are not very clear differences in the structure of the copulatory apparatus, so they are determined mainly by their appearance. In fact, the orthoptera of the genus Chortippus are easily distinguished by the determinant, but the main difficulty is represented by species from the group Chorthippus brunneus-biguttulus-mollis, which often hybridize with each other and vary greatly in key morphological features that form the basis for their division into separate species. To identify skates from this group, it is necessary to leave the males alive and listen to their song. As for other species of Horthippus, they can be reliably distinguished if there are good determinants.

But I must say that if you determine the hortippus like this from the photo, then there will be a high probability of an accidental error. It is advisable not to look at the photo, but under binoculars. You'd better look for yourself in the tables from the determinants. This is not so difficult, but it will be 100% correct. Well, you probably know these books yourself (the pages contain tables for the genus Horthippus):

1.) Beibienko, G. Ya., Mishchenko, L. L.-Locust faunas of the USSR. Part 2. (Moscow-L., 1951) - pp. 503 - 543.2
.) Opredelitel ' izeksekov evropeyskoy chasti SSSR. T. I. Nizshie, drevnekrylye, insekty s nepolnennym metamorphosis. [Determinants of fauna. 84]. L., 1964-pp. 286-271. 3
.) Tarbinsky S. P., Plavilshchikov N. N. (ed.) Opredelitel ' izeksekov evropeyskoy chasti SSSR (M.-L, 1948) - pp. 117-119.

If you don't have it, I'll send it to you by mail (my address - dichelima@gmail.com).
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28.08.2011 12:08, DanMar

Help identify the cricket! Kiev, August 25, 2011 Caught in a gap between the curb slabs late in the evening (detected by the male's mating song).

I think it's a house cricket (Acheta domesticus), but I might be wrong.
Does anyone know how to distinguish a song grasshopper nymph from a green one???
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28.08.2011 12:28, Olearius

I have a lot of photos of hortippus from the brunneus-biguttulus-mollis group, but I want to deal with montanus-parallelus first.
Dichelima thank you !
I'll try to find literature in the library first.
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28.08.2011 13:09, Dichelima

Does anyone know how to distinguish a song grasshopper nymph from a green one???
I have already seen a similar question on this forum. Here, I quote (page 23):


Is there any way to distinguish the larvae of the last stage of t.cantans and t.viridissima by their appearance?
When I caught the viridissima nymph in the S-Prudsky district this year, I immediately realized what was in front of me by the downward-curved ovipositor and the oblong rudiments of the z. wings. The caudata probably doesn't have that kind of curl, but I don't know about the black spikes on the nymphs ' legs. The canthans have corny shorter rudiments of wings.


Very interesting is there anything interesting about grasshoppers, including medecticus and gampsokleis ?
Quite a bit about the external morphology of grasshoppers from these genera. And absolutely nothing about their biology.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 28.08.2011 13: 09

28.08.2011 13:18, Dichelima

I'll try to find literature in the library first.
Don't waste your time! I advise everyone and use it myself: Flora and Fauna Library on rutracker.org. This is the most complete collection of almost all existing literature on botany and zoology in electronic form. Download it to your hard drive and you will be provided with almost any necessary literature: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3339741

This post was edited by Dichelima - 28.08.2011 13: 21
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28.08.2011 17:48, DanMar

I have already seen a similar question on this forum. Here, I quote (page 23):
Quite a bit about the external morphology of grasshoppers from these genera. And absolutely nothing about their biology.

This means that the rudiments of the wings are shorter in canthans and the ovipositor is in the other direction than in viridissima. Caudates have larvae that appear to have distinctive dots on their shins and pink-and-white eyes. Somewhere I heard that the larvae are spotted.
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28.08.2011 18:46, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Don't waste your time! I advise everyone and use it myself: Flora and Fauna Library on rutracker.org. This is the most complete collection of almost all existing literature on botany and zoology in electronic form. Download it to your hard drive and you will be provided with almost any necessary literature: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3339741


Why do we need rutraker?

http://ashipunov.info/shipunov/school/sch-ru.htm
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29.08.2011 18:31, Olearius

And here is such a tethygonia from the Voronezh Region.
What could it be ?


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These wingless creatures were quite common in the steppe
of the Voronezh region.


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An acridid with red hind wings and very distinctive
male appendages. The female is much larger.
It was found everywhere in the steppe.

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29.08.2011 22:04, DanMar

Tettigonia caudata, judging by the spines (long-tailed grasshopper).
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29.08.2011 22:40, Dichelima

And
these wingless creatures were quite common in the steppe
of the Voronezh region.
This is the female and male of Leptophyes punctatissima (Bosc, 1792). The day before yesterday, he caught two of these females in Kiev.
  
An acridid with red hind wings and very distinctive
male appendages. The female is much larger.
It was found everywhere in the steppe.
This is far from the genus Acrida, it is a male Calliptamus italicus Ikonnikov, 1911 or Calliptamus barbarus (Costa, 1836), I can not understand exactly. In C. italicus, the pattern on the inner thigh should be as follows::
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and in C. barbarus - such:
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And at the top right, it looks like the head of Euchorthippus pulvinatus (Fischer von Waldheim, 1846) is peeking out.

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30.08.2011 0:03, Olearius

Probably species nova. I don't have any other options.
(Voronezh Region)

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30.08.2011 0:31, Vlad Proklov

Probably species nova. I don't have any other options.
(Voronezh Region)

Gampsocleis glabra tongue.gif
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30.08.2011 11:16, Olearius

And this is from the Southern Urals (Gubernia Mountains)

The hind wings are yellow and crackle when flying.

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And another one from the South. Of the Urals

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30.08.2011 12:08, DanMar

The last one, maybe from Dericorythinae?

30.08.2011 12:45, Dichelima

But this is from the Southern Urals (Gubernia Mountains), the rear wings are yellow, and they crackle in flight.
This is Asiotmethis sp. If the hindwings are blue or purple, and the dark band on the wings is weak and incomplete, it is Asiotmethis muricatus (Pallas, 1771). Although it will be better if you take a picture of the rear shins from the inside, and also spread (hold a day over wet sand) one pair of wings (right front and rear wings) and send a photo.
And another one from the South. Of the Urals
Very similar to Pyrgodera armata Fischer von Waldheim, 1846. Is it a male or a female?

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30.08.2011 12:53, Olearius

This is Asiotmethis sp. If the hindwings are blue or purple, and the dark band on the wings is weak and incomplete, it is Asiotmethis muricatus (Pallas, 1771). Although it will be better if you take a picture of the rear shins from the inside, and also spread (hold a day over wet sand) one pair of wings (right front and rear wings) and send a photo.
Very similar to Pyrgodera armata Fischer von Waldheim, 1846.

Thanks!
Yes, I'll try to straighten it out.

30.08.2011 14:40, Ilia Ustiantcev

Please help me identify several pryamoptera from Ilovli, photos taken at the end of July.
1.picture: DSC02654.JPG
2.picture: DSC02803.JPGLocusta migratoria?
3.picture: DSC02886.JPGOnconotus servillei?
4.picture: DSC02928.JPGIn the south, the same Medvedka as in our country? This one on the screen must have eaten someone."
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6.picture: DSC03201.JPGTettigonia sp.?
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30.08.2011 19:56, PVOzerski

1-й - Oedaleus decorus
2-й - Locusta migratoria
3-й - Onconotus sp.
5-й - Thisoicetrinus pterostichus = Heteracris pterosticha
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30.08.2011 22:22, Dichelima

Please help me identify several pryamoptera from Ilovli, photos taken at the end of July.
Take a picture of onkonotus from above, so that the shape of the pronotum is visible. Then you'll see if it's Onconotus servillei or Onconotus laxmanni. Or take a look for yourself.
Вот Onconotus servillei Fischer von Waldheim, 1846:
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But Onconotus laxmanni (Pallas, 1771):
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See the difference in the shape of the pronotum? In females, too, the pronotum is so different. Yours is most likely Onconotus laxmanni.

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30.08.2011 22:27, Dichelima

Excuse me, PVOzerski, can you by any chance tell me where you can get a sound recording of the chirping of locusts of the genus Chortippus, especially Ch. brunneus, Ch.biggutulus and Ch. mollis?

30.08.2011 22:35, PVOzerski

For example, here:
http://tetrix.narod.ru/acrgom.html

brunneus and biguttulus are also available on sounds. evol. nw. ru
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30.08.2011 22:41, Dichelima

For example, here:
http://tetrix.narod.ru/acrgom.html

brunneus and biguttulus are also available on sounds.evol.nw.ru
Oh, thank you so much! I always have problems with hortippus from the group Hortippus brunneus-biguttulus-mollis wall.gif. To determine - it is necessary to leave them alive and listen to the song of males.

30.08.2011 22:43, PVOzerski

And then there are porphyropterus and maritimus-from the same group smile.gif
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