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19.09.2011 18:35, PVOzerski

>"By the way, this is the first time I've seen an Oedaleus decorus

In the Russian scientific literature, other locusts are called flyers - namely, representatives of the tribe Epacromiini (Epacromius, Aiolopus). The more or less common name for Oe. decorus is the black-striped filly (tracing paper from the junior synonym, Pachytylus nigrofasciatus).
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19.09.2011 18:45, Decticus

PVOzerski, Metrioptera brachyptera also from Marmot smile.gif

19.09.2011 20:57, DanMar

Thank you very much, I will know smile.gif. And this summer, in a meadow with sparse vegetation, I caught a filly like prusa, only the color is solid brown, with a pattern that is not characteristic of him(the head and pronotum are brown, the wings are light with black dots like). Is it an albino prus or another species? Unfortunately, the photo was lost, I already met one of them in Koktebel, and this one was caught in the Zhytomyr region.

19.09.2011 21:13, Olearius

It's a pity smile.gifthat Podgornaya found it on the Birch Islands in the Gulf of Finland, and I found it in the middle of Pskov region. Well, the Metrioptera brachyptera species in the Northwest is not so rare, only it chooses stations that are not the most common (where there is a rare herbage: even in a swampy meadow, even on the edge of a pine forest in the heather).

And I didn't know that we have such grasshoppers as Conocephalus.
PVOzerski, but don't tell me links to faunal works in the north-west, maybe the names of specialists who wrote something?

19.09.2011 21:37, PVOzerski

1. Zubovsky N. N. Pryamoprylye (Dermatoptera et Orthoptera) S.-Peterburgskoy gubernii [Pryamoptera (Dermatoptera et Orthoptera) of the St. Petersburg province] / / Yearbook of the Zoological Museum of the Imperial Academy of Sciences, 1897, vol. II, pp. 162-214.
2. Miram E. F. Obzor faunii Pryamoptera (Dermatoptera et Orthoptera) Yearbook of the Zoological Museum of the USSR Academy of Sciences, 1925, vol. XXVI (1-2), pp. 93-102.
3. Uvarov B. P. Locusts of the European part of the USSR and Western Siberia, Moscow: Novaya Derevnya, 1925, 122 p
. 4. Podgornaya L. I. Orthopteroid insects (Orthopteroidea) of the Bolshoy Berezovy Island. on the fauna of the Vyborg Nature Reserve. Proceedings of the Zoological Institute of the USSR Academy of Sciences, 1984, vol. 23, pp. 8-11.
5. Voznesensky A. Yu. Materials on the entomofauna of the Sebezhsky National Park. Orthopteroid insects: Blattodea, Orthoptera, Dermaptera / / Nature of the Pskov Region, 1998, vol. 2, pp. 29-30.
6. Savelyev P. V. Entomofauna of the National park "Sebezhsky": Straight-winged insects of Orthoptera / / Nature of the Pskov Region, 1999, vol. 6, pp. 19-21.
7. Podgornaya L. I. Orthoptera of Leningrad Province // Acta Zool. Fenn., 1995, v. 199, p. 5-9.
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19.09.2011 23:42, Dichelima

In the Russian scientific literature, other locusts are called flyers - namely, representatives of the tribe Epacromiini (Epacromius, Aiolopus).
If you are interested, you can look at my photos of a representative of the genus Aiolopus (Aiolopus thalassinus (Fabricius, 1781)). Ukraine, Kherson, late August 2010. In the thick juicy grass on the bank of a small river.
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The female.
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The female is next to the male.
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Male.
Here are more photos of the same insects. Female: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Male and female close by: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Photos of the male: 1, 2, 3.
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19.09.2011 23:46, Dichelima

I have another photo of another male, a little different from the previous one. I wanted to ask the experts-is this the same type or a completely different one? Here are his photos: 1, 2, 3, 4. It was caught in the same place as the previous pair of insects.

20.09.2011 20:36, DanMar

I caught green ones like that... And they also come across with a PURPLE (!) pronotum and head..

20.09.2011 20:46, Dichelima

2 DanMar:
Yes, there are flyers with non-standard colors - I have often come across, as for me, they are not purple, but rather light pink. Or maybe I just liked the pink ones, not the purple ones. This is similar to albinos, because if you dip a green flyer in boiling water, it will turn red-possibly due to the fact that the chromoprotein has denatured from heating. But I didn't take a picture of them. I selected only the most typical forms. You'll see - take a picture and post it! Or give us a link on the web.

2 Everyone:
No one knows my male (URL #1673)?

This post was edited by Dichelima - 09/20/2011 20: 53

20.09.2011 20:49, DanMar

Yes, but I've only ever seen purple and dark pink ones. Unfortunately, I took them and fed them to the dybkas...

20.09.2011 20:57, Dichelima

DanMar, post something else interesting!

20.09.2011 21:33, DanMar

Interesting - HMM... I shot a lot of locusts in the forest of Zhit. region, but lost the card..( This cricket is unknown to me, I have met it many times in different places.. Modicogrillus? I think so far that it is, I thought to bring it to the culture, but nothing happened((.

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I also give you a Saga with locusts and mantis.

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20.09.2011 21:59, Dichelima

Modicogrillus
Ukhta! I've never seen Modicogryllus frontalis. Cool, I wish I had one in my collection.

And the dybki - as always, delicious! Especially the one that eats the praying mantis. Here, in Ukraine, mantises can be found quite often.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 09/20/2011 22: 05

20.09.2011 22:00, Dichelima

Oh, by the way, I have a question about Calliptamus sp.

Here, for example, is a male calliptamus, which I identified as Calliptamus italicus italicus (L.). Ukraine, Kherson region, August 2010. On a vacant lot outside the city. In the low, dry grass at the edge of the asphalt road.
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More photos of the same male: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. And here is a similar female, which I have assigned to the same species: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

But calliptamus is a male that differs in color. Slovlen at the same place, also in the knc of August. Unfortunately, I didn't even look for a female. I just didn't notice that they didn't look alike.
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Here is another photo of this male from other angles: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
According to the determinant of Beibiyenko and Mishchenko (Locust fauna of the USSR. Part I) it turns out that this is also Calliptamus italicus italicus (L.). Please confirm or deny.

20.09.2011 22:10, Dichelima

Oh, by the way, I found on the OSF Online site that there is no longer such a separate species as Calliptamus italicus Ikonnikov, 1911. This is now Calliptamus abbreviatus Ikonnikov, 1913. I wanted to ask how other entomologists feel about this.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 09/20/2011 22: 11

20.09.2011 22:24, DanMar

Here's what else I remembered, I was in the meadows and on the river, almost near the water, in the wet muddy bank I observed the smallest (imago 4-5mm) crickets, they sing very peculiar, Kiev region, the beginning and middle of summer. Who is this suspect? These crickets only live near water...

20.09.2011 22:25, DanMar

They often met near various ponds, lakes, old people, and the Desna River.

20.09.2011 22:45, VBoris

Gentlemen, help me identify the sawtail. Belarus, end of September.
Is it an imago?
Do males make sounds?

This post was edited by VBoris - 20.09.2011 23: 58

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21.09.2011 10:15, PVOzerski

Barbitistes constrictus-pine sawtail. Of course, imago (the rudiments of wings in the larvae of straight-winged birds do not look like this, and in sawtails, the larvae of females do not have teeth on the ovipositor). Sounds in this group (the Barbitistini tribe, which also includes Isophya, Poecilimon, and others) are often produced by both sexes, but they have the character of clicks with the spectrum strongly shifted to the ultrasonic region. I had a male pine sawtail sing , but I could barely hear it and couldn't record it (again, because the carrier frequency was too high).

The monograph by K.-G. Heller presents waveforms of many European grasshoppers, including this species.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 09/21/2011 10: 17
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21.09.2011 10:21, PVOzerski

About prusov: in principle, their color is very variable. It is impossible to focus on it when determining (if we are not talking about the rear shins and the inner side of the rear thighs, of course). About C. italicus - you have something strange written: in fact, italicus is a Linnean species. If possible, please provide an exact link to the source.

P.S. I think I figured it out... See: there, in OSF:

species abbreviatus Ikonnikov, 1913
synonym holoptera Ramme, 1951
synonym italicus Ikonnikov, 1911
....
species italicus (Linnaeus, 1758)

That is, what is written means exactly what is written in the work of 1911. Ikonnikov's reference to C. italicus was actually to a different species, which he later described as abbreviatus.

But then there is, indeed, a nomenclature problem. Namely, in the same place, below:
species mus Bolívar, 1936
subspecies abbreviata Bolívar, 1936

Actually, as far as I understand, the name Calliptamus mus abbreviata Bolívar, 1936 is a junior homonym of the name Calliptamus abbreviatus Ikonnikov, 1913 and should be replaced.

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 09/21/2011 15: 51
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21.09.2011 23:25, Dichelima

That is, what is written means exactly what is written in the work of 1911. Ikonnikov's reference to C. italicus was actually to a different species, which he later described as abbreviatus.
Ah, I see now! This means that Calliptamus italicus Ikonnikov, 1911 is a synonym for Calliptamus abbreviatus Ikonnikov, 1913. Calliptamus italicus (Linnaeus, 1758) is a completely separate species described by Linnaeus. Thanks!

This post was edited by Dichelima - 09/21/2011 23: 28

21.09.2011 23:28, PVOzerski

Aha smile.gif
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21.09.2011 23:30, Dichelima

Oh, you need to read more! I don't understand the difference between Calliptamus italicus (Linnaeus, 1758) and Calliptamus italicus Ikonnikov, 1911. redface.gif

This post was edited by Dichelima - 09/21/2011 23: 33

21.09.2011 23:40, Dichelima

Here's what else I remembered, I was in the meadows and on the river, almost near the water, in the wet muddy bank I observed the smallest (imago 4-5mm) crickets, they sing very peculiar, Kiev region, the beginning and middle of summer. Who is this suspect? These crickets only live near water...
Could it be the Tridactylidae family?

21.09.2011 23:53, PVOzerski

Tripersts don't sing, at least not in the usual sense of the word (I don't know about vibrocommunication a la jumpers). Otherwise, the description is similar.

22.09.2011 20:04, Decticus

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On the site MacroClub.ru it is defined as Metrioptera sp.But something tells me that this is not the case.

22.09.2011 21:36, DanMar

2 Decticus: This is a white-fronted grasshopper, a real nymph. I know all their ages, this is it.
2 Dichelima: There were CRICKETS near the pond!. I also saw tripersts, but they were very small. Probably these reconciliations will still be larger - 0.8-1 cm. Similar to the usual ones, but very small, I caught a few, left one for the night, gave parsley, he sang. But a few days later he died, apparently the humidity is needed. I wanted to save the rest but it didn't work out! If there are any suspicions about me, then it was just a cricket, stopover. Black, imago, female also seems to have seen.
The song is similar to the stem, but this one is more continuous, the tone is higher.By the way, their head is small in proportion to the body, smaller than that of standard grilluses.

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22.09.2011 21:44, DanMar

Here are my albifrons, posted earlier on the forum.



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22.09.2011 23:19, Dichelima

2 Dichelima: There were CRICKETS near the pond!. I also saw tripersts, but they were very small. Probably these reconciliations will still be larger - 0.8-1 cm. Similar to the usual ones, but very small, I caught a few, left one for the night, gave parsley, he sang. But a few days later he died, apparently the humidity is needed. I wanted to save the rest but it didn't work out! If there are any suspicions about me, then it was just a cricket, stopover. Black, imago, female also seems to have seen.
The song is similar to the stem, but this one is more continuous, the tone is higher.By the way, their head is small in proportion to the body, smaller than that of standard grilluses.
Then maybe it was Pteronemobius heydeni? It has a body length of 5-7 mm, occurs near water. Probably very lucky to meet such insects!

This post was edited by Dichelima - 22.09.2011 23: 21
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23.09.2011 12:54, nikittokkk

Please help me identify the pryamoptera. Taken in early September, in Moscow.
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Thank you in advance!

23.09.2011 13:21, Victor Titov

Please help me identify the pryamoptera. Taken in early September, in Moscow.
Thank you in advance!

I think Stethophyma grossum.
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23.09.2011 14:27, nikittokkk

Thanks! This summer I meet it several times more often than other straight-winged birds!

23.09.2011 14:45, nikittokkk

Pryamokryloe from the Moscow region. August.
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Thank you in advance!

23.09.2011 15:58, PVOzerski

Chorthippus dorsatus.

23.09.2011 21:49, Dichelima

I have identified this right-winged locust as Myrmeleotettix antennatus (Fieber, 1853). But still, I wanted to ask again, just in case. Ukraine, Tsyurupinsky district of the Kherson region. On sandy soils with low vegetation.

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Male. More photos of the male: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.

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More photos of the female: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

Males have a very interesting flat mace at the end of their antennae. It seems to prefer to live in places with sandy soil. Interesting view.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 23.09.2011 22: 06

24.09.2011 0:58, PVOzerski

That Myrmeleotettix is accurate. Most likely, the view is also defined correctly. This does not prevent it from quite strongly resembling our M. maculatus (by the way, also a fan of sandy slightly blackened soils).
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24.09.2011 3:00, DanMar

Interestingly, very often here they post banals, green, gray, and singing grasshoppers, but the question is, why did everyone forget about the ephippigers??? They were very often found in Zhytomyr, Kiev (although I never found them on the left bank) regions! This year, unfortunately, I didn't find any females, they were all in the trees. Does anyone know the phenology of the grape ephippiger species in Ukraine??? And distribution?

24.09.2011 3:01, DanMar

I have photos by the way!! But I don't think that's necessary here...

24.09.2011 11:17, Dichelima

I have photos by the way!! But I don't think that's necessary here...
Well, I wouldn't say that any high-quality photos would be superfluous here. Many people do not ask questions directly on the forum, but compare the insects that they have caught or planted with the photos that are posted here. If you can clearly see the signs of the view from all sides in the photo, then it is advisable to post it (if you don't mind sharing it for general use). The main thing is to sign a reliable name and indicate the geographical point, the nature of the biotope, and any other bright signs that can be identified. It is advisable (as I think) to take very detailed photos so that you can get a good look at the animals.

By the law of meanness, the rarest species are never photographed in sufficient detail and in fine detail. Sometimes even a few blurry photos can't be found online. But there are plenty of photos that are often found. But this does not mean that you should forget about them, because it often happens that, for example, on the Internet there are a mountain of photos of a grasshopper from above and from the side, but none from the ventral side. And someone wants to look at the animal from this position.

This post was edited by Dichelima - 24.09.2011 11: 32

24.09.2011 11:21, PVOzerski

By the way, there is a separate subforum - "Images of insects" - why not use it?

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