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Identification of Orthoptera (grasshoppers, crickets, etc.)

Community and ForumInsects identificationIdentification of Orthoptera (grasshoppers, crickets, etc.)

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08.01.2012 21:56, PVOzerski

With grass, it is difficult to say how to ensure its freshness. The bad thing is that not only can it not be replaced with anything, but it can even be put under the glass bottom of the cage (because the glass does not let in ultraviolet light, and the blacksmiths may see it).

08.01.2012 22:05, DanMar

It looks like we need to call the Decticus user, he will be interested! I don't know about fillies, but two different forms of color in platikleis are very cool =). Probably after them you just need to switch to verrucivorus. I suggest an alternative option for the grass - cover it with a mosquito net! True, the color may change, but I myself have all the terrariums from it, very convenient, ventilation, light cool.gif... Only here it is very easy for decticus to cope with it if necessary, it will not stand up to such powerful mandibles =)

08.01.2012 22:28, PVOzerski

Which Platycleis are we talking about? I can only think of the genus (or subgenus) Montana - there are individuals with a green top. However, in Platycleis (s. str.) grisea, I observed a different thing - a change in color from greenish to gray after imaginal molting. But in this respect, M. brachyptera is no worse: it shows dimorphism only in adults, and all larvae without a green top.

08.01.2012 22:48, DanMar

I mean the metriopter, although I call all those who belong to the Platycleidini tribe platycleis =( . Please excuse me!

08.01.2012 23:43, PVOzerski

Yeah, I get it. Then let's better call them jumps - there will be less confusion smile.gif

08.01.2012 23:47, DanMar

Thanks! ОК

09.01.2012 23:21, Kovalevsky

Please help me identify the grasshopper. Germany, west of Bonn. 5.07.2011.
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09.01.2012 23:34, Vlad Proklov

Please help me identify the grasshopper. Germany, west of Bonn. 5.07.2011.

Tettigonia viridissima
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10.01.2012 14:55, Pasha

Please identify the grasshopper mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif
user posted image
«Grasshopper"on Yandex.Photos
Taken on Phu Quoc Island, Vietnam December 2011

10.01.2012 16:33, PVOzerski_as_guest

We can only say for sure that it is a locust from the subfamily Acridinae, almost certainly from the genus Acrida.
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10.01.2012 17:47, Hierophis

If it is in the south of Ukraine, then there is only a two-color akrida, there are no other such ones, and this is a female smile.gif
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10.01.2012 20:04, PVOzerski

What kind of Ukraine is therefrown.gif-it says the same: Vietnam.

10.01.2012 20:29, Hierophis

And interseno, suddenly it's the same two-tone smile.gifWell, exactly as usual here!

10.01.2012 20:37, Dracus

No, there are species from a different group than the European ones.

10.01.2012 20:47, Pasha

In the Wikipedia article "Akrida bicolor", my grasshopper is drawn! Thank you all very much!
Please identify my Vienamo-Cambodian butterflies in the next branch and I will be immensely happy! And then no one answers me there frown.gif

10.01.2012 20:59, Hierophis

Pasha, but it's not all that simple, I didn't notice that it was shot in Vietnam! Dracus and PVOzerski spell it correctly, it's not a two-tone if in Vietnam!

11.01.2012 2:19, Dracus

In the Wikipedia article "Akrida bicolor", my grasshopper is drawn! Thank you all very much!

Externally, all species of this genus are very similar, differences in the details of the structure. Color options, in addition, are the same for many akridas.
Immediately it is difficult to determine the species not only from this photo, but even with a copy in your hand - the genus is very complex, it is confidently divided only into groups of species. I myself gave up on the exact definition of my Asian akridas (except, of course, cinerea, which goes further north than the rest).
Moreover, it may even be Truxalis, another genus from the same subfamily, although they are usually more modestly colored, with slightly different head proportions. But you can only tell for sure by looking at the legs that are out of focus in the photo.

This post was edited by Dracus - 11.01.2012 02: 23

11.01.2012 7:34, Pasha

Pasha, but it's not all that simple, I didn't notice that it was shot in Vietnam! Dracus and PVOzerski spell it correctly, it's not a two-tone if in Vietnam!

This photo was taken by myself, in Vietnam, on the island of Phu Quoc. At the mouth of a small river.
The photo attached to the Wikipedia article was taken in Senegal. It's probably a cosmopolitan species. Although I'm a complete layman in this business wall.gif

11.01.2012 11:10, PVOzerski

Pasha, to reduce your stubbornness, I can advise you to look at photos of Acrida oxycephala, A. ungarica, Truxalis on the Internet - you will see for yourself how similar they are. Here, for example, is a near-duplicate of your instance: http://www.naturephoto-cz.eu/acrida-ungari...icture-655.html (it is designated as ungarica, although, of course, no guarantee of the correctness of the definition can be given here.)
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11.01.2012 11:10, Dracus

The photo attached to the Wikipedia article was taken in Senegal. It's probably a cosmopolitan species.

If you believe Hartz's monograph of 1975 (after him, no one seems to have considered the European and closest species in detail), then bicolor is widespread in Africa, but it does not enter Europe, and certainly does not occur east of Iran (approximately). In continental Europe (including in our western part of the Hebrew language), only ungarica is found, which is often mistakenly (?) called bicolor. In addition, turrita is found in North Africa and Sicily, and anatolica is found in Turkey, which is often considered a subspecies of either bicolor or ungarica. But again, the differences between the two are very fuzzy.

This post was edited by Dracus - 11.01.2012 11: 14

11.01.2012 11:27, PVOzerski

Well, at A. Benediktov, something began to work out with the records of acrid signals - maybe we'll figure it out with time smile.gif

11.01.2012 13:42, Dracus

Yes, here only bioacoustics remains. Still, someone would send the material alive (I repent, I forget about it myself).

11.01.2012 17:43, Hierophis

I wonder if all these species / subspecies can interbreed with fertile offspring?

11.01.2012 18:48, PVOzerski

It's hard to say. But it cannot be ruled out that they will be able to do so in artificial conditions. Locusts have an exceptional uniformity of karyotypes. And the main mechanism of isolation in close species is ethological. Hortippus were successfully crossed several times in experiments and F2.

11.01.2012 19:41, Hierophis

It's just that they are very similar - if it is not possible that they regularly exchange pleasantrieswink.gif, then they can be considered as one common group in the form of a species with subspecies. By the way, molecular research here would be interesting.
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12.01.2012 20:49, Pasha

12.01.2012 22:22, PVOzerski

Pasha, the insect foot is not called the whole leg, but several of its final segments (after the lower leg). In the case of Acrida / Truxalis, it is not the foot at all that is interesting, but its last segment (the ratio between the size of the claws located on it and the sucker. In your photo, the tip of the paw can only be seen on the right middle leg, while I personally can't see any claws or suckers.

14.01.2012 16:22, Pasha

Pasha, the insect foot is not called the whole leg, but several of its final segments (after the lower leg). In the case of Acrida / Truxalis, it is not the foot at all that is interesting, but its last segment (the ratio between the size of the claws located on it and the sucker. In your photo, the tip of the paw can only be seen on the right middle leg, while I personally can't see any claws or suckers.

Well, do not go into such a jungle umnik.gifsince everything is so complicated. What was reported is quite enough. Thank you very much!

14.01.2012 20:08, Pasha

Please identify one more person
user posted image
http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bonacon/view/552668/
Taken in the same place, Phu Quoc Island, Vietnam, december

14.01.2012 21:48, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Pseudophyllus titan
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17.01.2012 10:33, Анфим

It's a pamphagide, perhaps? (15.09. on a dry meadow)

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17.01.2012 11:19, PVOzerski

Female Psophus stridulus (Acrididae, family Oedipodinae)
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19.01.2012 18:05, Anax chernobila

I have heard that recently the number of large locusts (Fillies, Treskuchki) has increased in the MO... I wonder what will happen this summer. This satanchovoe was caught by me in August on the field.

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19.01.2012 18:40, Vlad Proklov

I have heard that recently the number of large locusts (Fillies, Treskuchki) has increased in the MO... I wonder what will happen this summer. This satanchovoe was caught by me in August on the field.

Psophus stridulus. I caught it in 2011 in three districts of the Moscow region.
And where exactly did you find it?
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19.01.2012 19:17, PVOzerski

It is interesting that in 2011 in the Pskov region, where I always caught Psophus before, I did not find them at all. Despite the fact that in general my local list has been expanded (Phaneroptera falcata, Conocephalus dorsalis, C. discolor, Chorthippus mollis).

19.01.2012 19:36, Anax chernobila

Muhanovo village, MO / VLO/YAR.
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19.01.2012 20:11, Vlad Proklov

It is interesting that in 2011 in the Pskov region, where I always caught Psophus before, I did not find them at all. Despite the fact that in general my local list has been expanded (Phaneroptera falcata, Conocephalus dorsalis, C. discolor, Chorthippus mollis).

No, there were a lot of them in the MO last season - but very locally, of course.

And before that, I didn't see them at all.

19.01.2012 21:56, PVOzerski

I wonder how it is with the principle of changing stations smile.gifin Pskov region - these are clearings and clearings near pine forests. Related Ps. stridulus species are Myrmeleotettix maculatus, Chorthippus brunneus, Ch. biguttulus, Metrioptera brachyptera, in the last few years - also Oedipoda caerulescens, this year Chorthippus mollis was caught at the same point. In Novgorodchina (near Lake Valdai), the vegetation at the Ps. stridulus collection point is somewhat different - a deposit with sparse herbaceous vegetation. The diversity of erect-winged birds is higher: there are no kopjeuks (M. maculatus), but there are more species of skates: Ch. brunneus, Ch. biguttulus, Ch. parallelus, Ch. apricarius, and among grasshoppers there are Decticus verrucivorus, Bicolorana roeselii, and Metrioptera brachyptera.

20.01.2012 16:17, phlomis

Argentina, Iguazu. 27.11.2011.
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21.01.2012 14:28, Olearius

Speaking of Psophus stridulus ...
We (near St. Petersburg), and this is much further north-60 degrees, have
a stable population of this species. In the region, and as if not anywhere-
at least I have not met. But in
one place near the city directly lives and lives.

This post was edited by Olearius - 21.01.2012 14: 29

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