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10.02.2012 23:12, Olearius

More Voronezh region

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11.02.2012 16:35, PVOzerski

With filiform antennae - Omocestus (?) rufipes
With club-shaped antennae-Myrmeleotettix antennatus

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11.02.2012 18:37, Коллекционер

More Voronezh region

and where exactly?

11.02.2012 21:40, Olearius

With filiform antennae - Omocestus (?) rufipes
With club-shaped antennae-Myrmeleotettix antennatus

Omocestus was still identified as haemorrhoidalis.
(The transverse furrow of the pronotum is located in the middle)

Myrmeleotettix is the same, only in the antennalis determinant. A little confused
by the short elytra (the sign indicates that they should go beyond
the hind knees). But it seems there are no more options with such a massive mace.

11.02.2012 21:43, Olearius

and where exactly?

Liskinsky district, rural locality Petropavlovsk

11.02.2012 21:57, PVOzerski

The correct name of the baleen Kopieuska is Myrmeleotettix antennatus (Fieber, 1853). As for the herb-it is possible that haemorrhoidalis, but, in my opinion, there is a reason to get involved. What color are her palps-solid or dark with light rings? I am actually struck by the difference between your copy and my Pskov collections. Especially in the pattern of the lateral lobes of the pronotum. It is clear that this is not a trait that is not subject to variability (O. viridulus, for example, has at least three variants of the color pattern of this part of the body) - but nevertheless. I would like to record songs and listen to them...

Here, for comparison (2 females of O. haemorrhoidalis, Ostrovsky district, Pskov region). Photo credit: P. V. Ozersky, license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

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11.02.2012 22:43, Olearius

The correct name of the baleen Kopieuska is Myrmeleotettix antennatus (Fieber, 1853). As for the herb-it is possible that haemorrhoidalis, but, in my opinion, there is a reason to get involved. What color are her palps-solid or dark with light rings? I am actually struck by the difference between your copy and my Pskov collections. Especially in the pattern of the lateral lobes of the pronotum. It is clear that this is not a trait that is not subject to variability (O. viridulus, for example, has at least three variants of the color pattern of this part of the body) - but nevertheless. I would like to record songs and listen to them...

Here, for comparison (2 females of O. haemorrhoidalis, Ostrovsky district, Pskov region). Photo credit: P. V. Ozersky, license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/

The palps are dark with light rings, and the apical ones are whitish, the rings
are not visible. What does this mean ?
In general, there were few of them, only one copy. I got caught (I took everything in a row).

11.02.2012 22:49, Olearius

Voronezh region,
with Horthippus sp.

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11.02.2012 23:07, PVOzerski

Here is a piece of the definitive table from Bey-Bienko, Mishchenko 1951. There, the color of the palps is one of the signs for distinguishing these two grasses. However, I have never had any contact with O. rufipes (=ventralis) in nature: it is not found in our northern regions (or, at least, is rare).

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11.02.2012 23:08, PVOzerski

Chorthippus - almost certainly dorsatus. Ch. dichrous looks like him, but he seems to live further east.
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11.02.2012 23:30, Olearius

Yes, it means rufipes by feelers.

11.02.2012 23:37, PVOzerski

Series, in a good way, you need to watch (although there may be collections of several similar types from one point) and waveforms of signals. By the way, I am also confused by the proportions of the head: your filly is painfully slender compared to my haemorrhoidalis.

11.02.2012 23:37, Olearius

Here are such beauties from the South. The Urals.

One

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And the second one

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12.02.2012 16:39, PVOzerski

Someone from the Oedipodinae; there is a suggestion that Celes variabilis. If so, then both specimens, despite the difference in the color of the hind wings, belong to the same species.
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13.02.2012 5:34, Dracus

I agree, this is Celes variabilis.
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17.02.2012 9:29, Olearius

This view was the background everywhere in the Gubernin Mountains.
Help with the definition.
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This couple is also from there, but it seems to be something else.
The light pattern on the pronotum has become very dark.

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17.02.2012 15:55, PVOzerski

1st pair-Stenobothrus sp.
2nd pair - Pararcyptera microptera
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23.02.2012 12:02, Olearius

Leningrad region, Karelian Isthmus.

Is it safe to say that this is Chorthippus brunneus ?
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23.02.2012 12:09, Olearius

Voronezh region.

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23.02.2012 12:58, PVOzerski

1st - not biguttulus, anyway. I don't know about mollis, because I haven't dealt with it much. It doesn't look like the Pskov ones, but similar ones were caught in Moldova. Brunneus, of course, is most likely.

2nd - from the albomarginatus group. Also a difficult group, by the way. Look for jobs. von Helversen, mainly-information about areas. Because there is an assumption that without data on courtship behavior (not even calling signals), it is impossible to accurately determine.
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23.02.2012 13:17, Olearius

1st - not biguttulus, anyway. I don't know about mollis, because I haven't dealt with it much. It doesn't look like the Pskov ones, but similar ones were caught in Moldova. Brunneus, of course, is most likely.

2nd - from the albomarginatus group. Also a difficult group, by the way. Look for jobs. von Helversen, mainly-information about areas. Because there is an assumption that without data on courtship behavior (not even calling signals), it is impossible to accurately determine.


I noticed that for fins, mollis is not specified, so brunneus comes out as an exception method. Is mollis more southern ?
Do you know if there is a mollis in the Leningrad region ?
Well, biguttulus, of course, disappears on the wings.

But with albomarginatus, you surprised me. I thought it was this particular view.
There are also light rays on the elytra and the shape of the pronotum is the same as it should be in albomarginatus.
Any new data on twin species ?

23.02.2012 13:28, Olearius

Voronezh Region again

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Second copy. The female.
Why it has short wings. Is it this kind or form ?

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23.02.2012 13:45, Olearius

And the Voronezh Region.

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23.02.2012 16:52, PVOzerski

Grasshopper-Bicolorana bicolor.
Locusts - I think both are Chorthippus macrocerus (male in the upper photo, female in the lower photo). In this species, shortened wings are the norm.

About Ch. mollis: I remember there were instructions for the Leningrad region, but no one supported them with waveforms of signals. So the northernmost reliable find from the North-West of Russia, apparently, is a male caught by me in 2011 in the center of the Pskov region.

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23.02.2012 16:57, PVOzerski

For the albomarginatus group , we should at least keep in mind the existence of Ch. karelini and Ch.oschei.
http://elementy.ru/news/430441?page_design=print
http://www.vedenina.iitp.ru/PUBLIST/isol_mech.pdf
http://www.guclehmann.de/attachments/File/..._Articulata.pdf
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23.02.2012 17:38, Olearius

Thank you so much for the information.
In such cases (c albomarginatus) I am skeptical about the division
into different species. It may be acceptable to divide into genetic forms in this
case, but not into different species.
The fertile offspring of hybrids is also suspicious.

With the band biguttulus-bruneus-mollis, I realized that you need to listen to songs and then
you can reliably determine. I've already found all the songs on the Internet and memorized
the differences. In the new season, I plan to travel around the north-west and look for C. mollis.
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23.02.2012 18:30, Olearius

All from the Voronezh Region ...

1 ex., reminds me of Ch. dorsatus, only green dorsatus met,
and this ex. brown.

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2 copies, something completely different: the lateral keels of the pronotum
are more concave.

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23.02.2012 18:48, PVOzerski

Dorsatus, in fact, has color variability, and it is quite pronounced. In the Pskov region, I encountered 2 main patterns: a green top with brown sides and completely brown ones. In the collections from the south of Russia, there were also completely green ones. So you should not be smile.gifafraid of the non-greenness of this species at all - it fits perfectly.

Now about the bottom one. Look at the shape of the hearing organ. If it is narrow , it may even be from the brunneus/biguttulus/mollis group. I rarely saw skates from this group with this color. Oddly enough, they have a green color, and its location is found in two versions:: as in this photo and as in Omocestus haemorrhoidalis from my photo above. I caught the 1st option in Pskov region (?brunneus) and in Moldova (? mollis), 2nd (?biguttulus) - between Toksovo and Kavgolovo near St. Petersburg.
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23.02.2012 18:59, Olearius

  

Locusts - I think both are Chorthippus macrocerus (male in the upper photo, female in the lower photo). In this species, shortened wings are the norm.


Male by the macrocerus key.

But the short-winged female can not be Chorthippus pullus ?

23.02.2012 19:02, PVOzerski

It doesn't look like it. Right now I'll show it to you smile.gif

In general, the surrounding area of the village of Kolosovo in the Okulovsky district of the Novgorod region (to the south of the Okulovka-Uglovka highway), photo by M. V. Vladimirova (caught together). This is definitely pullus. Pay attention to the top of the back thigh and back shin.

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23.02.2012 19:09, Olearius

All from the Voronezh Region ...

1 ex., reminds me of Ch. dorsatus, only green dorsatus met,
and this ex. brown.

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I wonder if this brown specimen that looks like dorsatus might
be Chorthippus dichrous. (the lateral keels are straight and not concave in
the anterior part of the pronotum)?

23.02.2012 19:17, PVOzerski

Unlikely: it seems that the western border of the range goes to the east. In a good way, again, you need to watch the signals. In dorsatus, the call signal is very characteristic: just like "The heart of a beauty [is prone to treason]" says smile.gif

23.02.2012 22:46, Olearius

Voronezh region.

It seems that this is all Oedipoda caerulescens (everyone has blue wings)

Please confirm

Can this species be confused with anything else ?

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23.02.2012 23:09, PVOzerski

In general, it is difficult to confuse. A characteristic feature of the genus Oedipoda is a "step" on the upper edge of the hind thigh. And with blue wings in the specified territory of its representatives there are only caerulescens.
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24.02.2012 11:52, Olearius

And again the Voronezh region ...

Together with the obvious male Chorthippus macrocerus, a male with
longer wings (forelegs with very sparse hairs, timp. the organ
is broadly oval like that of macrocerus). Also macrocerus ?

And another short-winged female macrocerus / pullus.
The antennae are barely longer than the pronotum of the head. This confuses me, because
in the determinant, the female macrocerus must have much longer whiskers
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24.02.2012 15:26, PVOzerski

And there's no one else left. Macropterous individuals in short-winged species are not an exceptional phenomenon for straight-winged species. As for the too short-whiskered female, she still does not "pull" on pullus. By the way, she was caught in the same station as the usual ones?

24.02.2012 23:30, Olearius

These females come from different locations several kilometers away. And which stations can no longer
be determined. I fished in wetter and drier areas and didn't record this data.

But this is not by chance Omocestus minutus (also Voronezh)?

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26.02.2012 8:56, PVOzerski

Can I take a look from above? And then at first it seemed to me that Eremippus, but then, however, doubts were taken (well, Eremippus should not, in theory, have large suckers on its paws). In general, by the" exclusion method", the probability that this is O. minutus is quite high. In any case, it is not O. petraeus or O. haemorrhoidalis.

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26.02.2012 11:37, Olearius

Top view of the same copy.

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And another copy. from the same place. Probably a male of the same species.
But both seem to be Omocestus.


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26.02.2012 11:47, Olearius

And this question arose in the course of the definition ...

What is shown by the arrows are the parietal fovea ?

(by key, they should be close together in O. minutus)

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And by the way, the frontal rib ex. female (1st specimen) is not depressed in the upper third,
but flat, and not depressed at the very bottom, but
slightly depressed in the middle between these areas.
In the male, it is almost the same, but a slight indentation begins in the eye area.
That's what confuses me. According to this feature, it is not O. minutus,
but what then ?

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