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20.11.2010 16:33, Sugercete

Is this such a variation in Pachyta quadrimaculata (Linnaeus, 1758), or is it a different species ?
Thanks
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This post was edited by Sugercete - 11/20/2010 16: 34

20.11.2010 16:37, Sugercete

Here I have another question about this species, which I first accidentally attributed to Poecilus cupreus.
I ask for help in determining, at least up to the gender.
Thanks
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20.11.2010 17:10, vasiliy-feoktistov

Dear experts,
I ask for help in identifying these beetles from photos in difficult cases, at least up to the genus.
Thanks

36) Judolia sexmaculata Linnaeus, 1758
42) Necydalis (s.str.) major Linnaeus, 1758
Both beetles are quite good, for the M. O., congratulations.

Is this such a variation in Pachyta quadrimaculata (Linnaeus, 1758), or is it a different species ?
Thanks

She is this, she is (there is no one else like us). This form comes across sometimes.
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20.11.2010 17:14, vasiliy-feoktistov

Yes,
39) Malachius bipustulatus Linnaeus, 1758

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 20.11.2010 17: 16
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20.11.2010 17:34, косинус

44-Chilocorus renipustulatus Scriba
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20.11.2010 17:35, Sugercete

Yes,
39) Malachius bipustulatus Linnaeus, 1758


Thank you, so this is Malashka, here I stepped wall.gif

20.11.2010 18:01, Mantispid

35. - Oxyporus maxillosus Fabricius, 1792
37. - Leistus terminatus (Panzer, 1793)
38. - Melandrya ?dubia (Schaller, 1783)
44. - Chilocorus ?bipustulatus (L., 1758)
45. - Gonioctena ?viminalis (Linnaeus, 1758)

and the fact that "Poecilus cupreus" IMHO resembles more Chlaenius (for example, Chlaenius nigricornis)

This post was edited by Mantispid - 20.11.2010 18: 08
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20.11.2010 18:09, vasiliy-feoktistov

35. - Oxyporus maxillosus Fabricius, 1792

I also thought about it, but the color of my belly confused me. Completely black for some reason? confused.gif
I've never seen anything like it.
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20.11.2010 18:40, Алексей Сажнев

35. - Oxyporus maxillosus
36. - Judolia sexmaculata
37. - Leistus sp.
39. - Malachius sp.
40. - ? Harpalus sp.
41. - ? Oedemera femorata = flavescens
42. - Necydalis major
43. - Larinus sp.
44. - Chilocorus renipustulatus
45. - Gonioctena ?viminalis

Aha, Pachyta quadrimaculata
ground beetle ? Chlaenius nitidulus

This post was edited by Alexey Sazhnev - 11/20/2010 18: 40
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20.11.2010 18:53, vasiliy-feoktistov

35. - Oxyporus maxillosus

Alexey, so maksilozus is still (his belly is abnormal)? Although in general, there seems to be nothing else to offer.

20.11.2010 18:56, Sugercete

35. - Oxyporus
ground beetle ? Chlaenius nitidulus

Thanks
Cool? For the whole season, only one got caught!

This post was edited by Sugercete - 11/20/2010 18: 57

20.11.2010 19:01, Алексей Сажнев

Here is Oxyporus maxillosus with a black belly

http://macroclub.ru/gallery/data/508/P1080117.jpg

http://rove.front.ru/digital/pixel/staphyl...s%20Kalinin.jpg
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20.11.2010 19:21, Sugercete

I also thought about it, but the color of my belly confused me. Completely black for some reason?

Similarly.
I have 4 pieces all with black.

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20.11.2010 19:41, vasiliy-feoktistov

Similarly.
I have 4 pieces all blacked out.

And I find only normal ones in mushrooms all the time. Here are some: http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/oxymaxdg.htm

Pictures:
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20.11.2010 19:45, Алексей Сажнев

I have both "light" and "dark" forms of Oxyporus maxillosus from the MO, I even took one for mannerheimi at first ))

20.11.2010 19:50, vasiliy-feoktistov

I have both "light" and "dark" forms of Oxyporus maxillosus from the MO, I even took one for mannerheimi at first ))

By God, I've never seen a dark one. And Manergame, and we've got Rufus, too.

20.11.2010 19:51, Алексей Сажнев

Yes, rufus is also there)

20.11.2010 19:54, Sugercete

Still # 34 undefined confused.gif
Thank You

20.11.2010 19:57, Алексей Сажнев

If 34 is on the previous page, then it is-Propylea quatuordecimpunctata
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20.11.2010 20:03, vasiliy-feoktistov

I have this cow with God-in-half opened. Irina, you would post them directly here (not via a radical).
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20.11.2010 20:07, косинус

By God, I've never seen a dark one. And Manergame, and we've got Rufus, too.

This is also the first time I've seen a black man. We have in the Altai how many caught Oxyporus maxillosus and only light. Maybe it's a subspecies of some kind ???
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20.11.2010 22:27, Victor Titov

16-I think not Melanotus castanipes on Melanotus rufipes, more like

Actually, Melanotus rufipes (Herbst, 1784)=castanipes (Paykull, 1800) umnik.gif smile.gif
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20.11.2010 22:53, Sugercete

28 Athous vittatus

By the way, yes. I'd forgotten all about Vittatus. But it is better to take a photo of the mounted beetles, otherwise it will be useless.


Is it the same view?

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21.11.2010 7:11, косинус

Actually, Melanotus rufipes (Herbst, 1784)=castanipes (Paykull, 1800) umnik.gif  smile.gif

Thanks !!! Live and learn forever. And in all the determinants I have for some reason Melanotus rufipes .

21.11.2010 7:34, vasiliy-feoktistov

Is it the same view?


#8 The pronotum would be larger and more honorable (now I also doubt the vittatus).
C #28 and so everything is clear-A. vittatus.

21.11.2010 7:48, косинус

Is it the same view?

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1) Dalopius marginatus( see here http://www.elateridae.com/zobrbruk.php?id=3328)
2) Athous vittatus (see here http://www.elateridae.com/zobrbruk.php?id=3111)
These are 2 different types they even have different Russian names The Nutcracker is bordered and the second one in my opinion is a multi-colored Nutcracker (something like this).

Here is a photo of Dalopius marginatus from my collection(I apologize for the quality I caught it 4 years ago and did not know even then how to make beetles, stupidly glued to cardboard)

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21.11.2010 10:56, Sugercete

It turns out that No. 8 is Athous vittatus, which is well disguised as Dalopius marginatus. But you can't fool us umnik.gifAt my No. 8 PRSP is not bordered and the outer edge of the NDKR is painted dark brown. To understand better, it is necessary, of course, to soak the beetles and mount them.

Thank you very much

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No. 8 caught in early spring
No. 28 caught in mid August

I caught it 4 years ago and didn't know how to make beetles back then, I just stuck it on cardboard


So it's not a problem! In hot water for two or three hours, they will peel off again and you can straighten them out. I once undertook to remake all the beetles. I decided to re-glue from large dies to small ones, so that the needle would be on the side. Everything worked out, I didn't spoil a single beetle.

This post was edited by Sugercete - 21.11.2010 11: 04
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21.11.2010 12:34, vasiliy-feoktistov

Just in case, here's what D. marginatus looks like: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...ndpost&p=995134
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21.11.2010 12:40, Sugercete

Dear experts, unfortunately, I was unable to insert images directly into our forum. Swears on the size, although I have a smaller file size than the forum requires. I filled everything in on Radical again. When there is a lot of traffic on the Radical, it starts to hang and the photo doesn't open, but at this point, there is usually a "get links" link. If you open this link, you can copy the link to the photo without waiting for it to open. This may be an extra hassle, but it's better than waiting for hours. smile.gif

I ask for help in determining, in difficult cases, up to the genus.
Thank you.

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With these two, I have a stupor. I know that these are easy-to-define views. Due to the temporary absence of a determinant, I used pictures on the Internet, but there is no order. With a gray mustache, they call both this and that, with a black mustache, the same story. So, I ask for help, at the same time I will learn to understand them. Thanks
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21.11.2010 12:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

Make the image 800x600 or smaller and everything will be fine.
Barbel: 49-1 Monochamus galloprovincialis Olivier, 1795 (female), and 49-2 Monochamus sutor Linnaeus, 1758 (male)
Nutcracker: Actenicerus sjaelandicus Muller, 1764
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21.11.2010 13:18, Sugercete

  
Barbel: 49-1 Monochamus galloprovincialis Olivier, 1795 (female), and 49-2 Monochamus sutor Linnaeus, 1758 (male)


And what is the fundamental difference between them, by which you can distinguish them immediately?
Thank You

21.11.2010 13:28, botanque

47a-b-looks like something interesting from the Scirtidae, as an option-Elodes.

21.11.2010 13:44, Sugercete

Dear experts, please tell me, is the beetle on the right in the photo an under-colored Harpalus rufipes, or is it some other species? MO
Thank you
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Here is still not clear to me this question.

21.11.2010 13:49, Sugercete

  
3 - Phyllobius ?calcaratus


Isn't No. 3 (10mm) too large for Phyllobius calcaratus?
What should I pay attention to?

Thank You

21.11.2010 14:03, Sugercete

  
4-From above I wish to see this miracle of nature


# 4 on top

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21.11.2010 14:22, vasiliy-feoktistov

I look it turns out (with the size). And the weevil looks like Pissodes sp. (I don't know them). Look here (3 types of conifers I posted): http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1054231
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21.11.2010 14:35, Sugercete

The black nutcracker is large and wide. #50
Thank you

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21.11.2010 14:41, косинус

And where was he caught????? What are the sizes??
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21.11.2010 14:51, vasiliy-feoktistov

Isn't it Athous niger?
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21.11.2010 14:58, косинус

Isn't it Athous niger?


I also think that Athous niger, black nutcrackers are very difficult to identify.
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