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Identification of beetles (Coleoptera)

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15.08.2007 12:42, Bad Den

What are the Staphylinidae? Moscow region, 07.2007.

Creophilus maxillosus

15.08.2007 16:24, phlomis

Thank you very much! smile.gif

15.08.2007 20:56, phlomis

And one more question. What kind of sawyere is this? Moscow region, 07.2007. picture: ins_2.jpg

15.08.2007 21:56, Nilson

Prionus coriarius L. 1758

15.08.2007 23:00, vilgeforce

Oh, that would be such a beast to catch!!! Where to look for them, who knows? For the Leningrad region, it is listed on the Zinovsky website.

16.08.2007 0:50, Bad Den

Oh, that would be such a beast to catch!!! Where to look for them, who knows? For the Leningrad region, it is listed on the Zinovsky website.

In the Leningrad region, probably in pine forests...

16.08.2007 1:11, Fornax13

And years in prions just about this time. In the old pine forests. At dusk, they start flying and fly well into the light at night... So you can still catchsmile.gif it, although this is with us. In the Leningrad region, I don't know when their age may be.

16.08.2007 1:22, Fornax13

Although it also inhabits oaks and birches well. It needs rotting roots. So it is more correct, I think, to look for old clearings, where there are a lot of stumpssmile.gif

16.08.2007 9:31, vilgeforce

Thank you... Let's try to search : -)

16.08.2007 11:28, mikee

Thank you... Let's try to search :-)

Barbel-tanner is quite common in Moscow and adjacent regions. We have already completed a number of years this year. At home, the female of this year is lying in a box, and the male left to ants smile.gifIn the Moscow region is often found at the base of large pines and on old rotten stumps of birch and pine.

16.08.2007 11:44, omar

I would not feed the ants, there are already more of them than necessary. Yesterday, Dorcadion found a dead and whole female near my apartment and was very happy.

16.08.2007 12:20, mikee

I would not feed the ants, there are already more of them than necessary. Yesterday, Dorcadion found a dead and whole female near my apartment and was very happy.

I didn't feed the ants on purpose, it's just that these woodcutters were already dead in the forest in a fire ditchtongue.gif, and the male ants found me earlier. To be honest, for me these beetles are banal, so I took the female solely for reasons of what someone might need, since it's healthy...

16.08.2007 15:29, phlomis

In this particular case, everything happened on July 10, shortly after noon. I saw about 5-6 barbels, obviously preoccupied with something and flocked to the tree (a Manchurian walnut, but there was some rotten stump under it). A female was sitting on this rotten spot. The quickest one was the first to make it, and they retreated to the litter. I couldn't see where the other males had gone-they were all gone. For the entire "photo shoot" I had a minute and a half.
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16.08.2007 19:00, Nilson

Oh, that would be such a beast to catch!!! Where to look for them, who knows? For the Leningrad region, it is listed on the Zinovsky website.

According to my information, it is extremely rare in the Leningrad region. Someone from the Kupriyanov circle caught a couple of years ago, so it was a furor, almost the first find! Search, of course, is best under the Meadow.
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16.08.2007 22:40, Guest

According to my information, it is extremely rare in the Leningrad region. Someone from the Kupriyanov circle caught a couple of years ago, so it was a furor, almost the first find! Search, of course, is best under the Meadow.


Try it on the edge of the forest on the trunks of trees (oaks) I collected
My message (rpanin)

16.08.2007 22:47, Victor Titov

On August 14, I found a dead female (not yet withered, with flexible joints) in a spruce forest in the vicinity of Dedovsk, Istra district, Moscow region, at the roots of an old spruce (!) .

17.08.2007 7:51, Mylabris

Good day to all. This animal was caught on 4.07.2007 on the Mangyshlak Peninsula (in South Kazakhstan) while mowing on milkweed flowers in the desert.
The opinions of colleagues were even divided about joining any squad.
Its length is 10-11 mm.
I would like to hear your opinion (preferably motivated).
Thank you.

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17.08.2007 8:22, Bad Den

For me, it's a beetle from the Ripiphoridae, most likely the genus Ripiphorus

Now the motivation smile.gif
Anyway, there are elytra and membranous hind wings. There are no ceri on the top of the abdomen. It means either a bug or a bug. But I think that the piercing-sucking RA would have been immediately noticeable (and I have not heard about the presence of bedbugs of such a bizarre appearance in the ex-USSR). It remains-Coleoptera
So it's in vain to put it in the middle of the prsp. pinned up wink.gif
http://www.pbase.com/tmurray74/image/50427439 "similar in appearance, but American.

or here - http://www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/ref-12969.htm

This post was edited by Bad Den - 17.08.2007 08: 35

17.08.2007 9:48, Mylabris

Thank you so much for your reply! I must admit that when I saw the photo (and I met this beast first from the photo), I also said that it was a fan-bearer. But when I looked at it through the binoculars, I thought about it. I saw and collected a lot of fans, and the shape of the head capsule is characteristic of them. And this little animal has a small head, and most of all (from what I have seen) it resembles the head of some proctotrupidka (from parasitic membranes), but there seem to be no simple eyes.
There is an assumption that this is something from Strepsiptera (fan-winged birds), but they are confused by the gigantic size for our fauna...

17.08.2007 9:49, Anthicus

Thank you so much for your reply! I must admit that when I saw the photo (and I met this beast first from the photo), I also said that it was a fan-bearer. But when I looked at it through the binoculars, I thought about it. I saw and collected a lot of fans, and the shape of the head capsule is characteristic of them. And this little animal has a small head, and most of all (from what I have seen) it resembles the head of some proctotrupidka (from parasitic membranes), but there seem to be no simple eyes.
There is an assumption that this is something from Strepsiptera (fan-winged birds), but they are confused by the gigantic size for our fauna...


What about the paw formula? Front-average 5, and rear?

This post was edited by Anthicus - 17.08.2007 09: 54

17.08.2007 9:51, Bad Den


There is an assumption that this is something from Strepsiptera (fan-winged birds), but they are confused by the gigantic size for our fauna...

Strepsiptera seems to be beetles too now wink.gif
But the shape of the wings, size and elytra are definitely not Strepsiptera

17.08.2007 9:54, Mylabris

5-5-4 that is, "ripiform". Apparently, after all, he is-the first impression is not always wrong.

17.08.2007 9:55, Anthicus

5-5-4 that is, "ripiform". Apparently, after all, he is-the first impression is not always wrong.


The beetle is cool! I WANT TO! smile.gif It would be interesting to determine the type.

17.08.2007 10:34, rpanin

On August 14, I found a dead female (not yet withered, with flexible joints) in a spruce forest in the vicinity of Dedovsk, Istra district, Moscow Region, at the roots of an old spruce (!).


I once found a female (dead, but very fresh) on the trunk of a beech tree in early September.

This post was edited by rpanin - 17.08.2007 10: 34
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17.08.2007 12:02, Mylabris

We'll dig. The family, in principle, is not very large, there is some literature available. I'll report the results.
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17.08.2007 14:26, omar

For the Moscow region, the view is ubiquitous and common.

17.08.2007 15:48, алекс 2611

Dear colleagues! Chrysolina, in my opinion, is still geminata (Paykull). The punctuation between rows is rough and frequent, and even in the rows, the dots are close together, as far as the photo shows. And this color is quite typical for geminata. In Ch. hyperici (Forster), both the row points are sparser and the row spacing is more delicately dotted. In addition, it is often bronze or copper-green. As for Ch. variants (Schaller), it generally has a dotted ndcr. tangled, without rows. And he's different. Although to be sure, you can also pull the aedeagus, if it is a male, of coursewink.gif


I agree with the previous speaker. And about Ch. variants, this is me for example: what is the Chrysolina color is different and you should not rely on the color.
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17.08.2007 23:59, Fornax13

I totally agree. Although even among chrysolins, there are cases when the color is quite constant and species-specific (some cerealis, for example, or the same staphylaea). But this is clearly not the casesmile.gif, but it would be interesting to see the percentage of different color variations in these two species...

18.08.2007 0:25, Fornax13

The beetle, of course, is cool! ... S. M. Yablokov-Khnzorian, by the way, has a review on the fan-bearing ships of the USSR (Ent. Obozr., issue 4 for 1975 and vol. 2 for 1976). Although I think that much has already changed since then. It seems to be similar to Ripiphorus, S. M. specifies only R. for the USSR. subdipterus Bosc, 1792, including for Kazakhstan and Central Asia.
The description seems to be similar, but you never know what... I can scan it, basically.

18.08.2007 0:38, Fornax13

SM also specifically notes that these creatures have "the whole head resembles the head of a bee."..
Can you tell me, by the way, where you can see and collect a lot of fans? And then I wonderwink.gif

18.08.2007 16:29, Mylabris

If you don't mind, please post a scan of Khnzorian! And I mostly gather fan-bearers in deserts on fixed sands. Exclusively during the day, on flowers. Most often on mordovians (Echinops sp). There are 8-12 beetles sitting on one flower. Once they began to appear en masse in the apartment - it turned out that there was aspen under the windowsill - in the fall they hatched and popped (parasites still). There are 20 instances...

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19.08.2007 0:38, Fornax13

What a horror!:) Thank you for the information! Please prscheniya, and this is in what region? We just have only Pelecotoma found in Ulyanovsk so far. Even Metoecus wasn't found. Yes, and Macrosiagon could easily be. As for the job , so far I've only scanned the keys and the Ripiphorus morph. . Over time, I'll try to get both jobs back to normal. pdf drive in.
Although I do not know whether it is possible to determine reliably from these works now: I saw in call. ZINa the types of some newly described Macrosiagon - someone took them seriously. For other groups of fan-bearers, however, I can not vouch...

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19.08.2007 21:16, phlomis

Pop music, of course, but is it possible to determine a bronze medal from such a picture?

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19.08.2007 21:27, Ilia Ustiantcev

Probably golden! And Zhuk will be offended right now...

19.08.2007 23:38, phlomis

Then another zhuk. wink.gif Voronezh Region, June 2007. For some reason, I didn't get any good pictures. However, these mustachios were very nimble and did not like to pose smile.gif

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20.08.2007 0:01, Fornax13

Agapanthia of some sort... It is similar to villosoviridescens.. Or dahli, which is more likely... And what did you rest on?

20.08.2007 0:41, phlomis

This is the cupid (Anthriscus sylvestris)

20.08.2007 7:20, Mylabris

This is in the south-eastern Kazakhstan-Almaty region. We have a great place here-100 km in a straight line - and you can drive everything from glaciers to deserts.
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20.08.2007 10:28, rpanin

Agapanthia of some sort... It is similar to villosoviridescens.. Or dahli, which is more likely... And what did you rest on?


Dahli's mustache gaps are the same sunny color as his body.
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20.08.2007 17:55, phlomis

Thank you all! smile.gif I found a nice site. Agapanthia is there on the page http://www.uochb.cas.cz/~natur/cerambyx/lamin.htm

If you compare the images, it is more likely Agapanthia villosoviridescens, the rest of the similar ones either do not live here, or are shaggy. My beetle had no visible hairs.

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