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26.09.2007 8:50, Sv Kononova

Good afternoon! In June, I brought several photos of beetles from Turkey (Belek).
Look, please, who is it?

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26.09.2007 9:05, Bad Den

Good afternoon! In June, I brought several photos of beetles from Turkey (Belek).
Look, please, who is it?

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Anoxia sp.

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26.09.2007 10:10, алекс 2611

I keep confusing which one is sphaerocephalus and which one is ritro.

As far as I remember, Echinops sphaerocephalus is tall ( up to 150 cm), with white/light blue flowers
E. ritro is a maximum of 30-40 cm high, with blue flowers.
Like I didn't lie

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26.09.2007 10:15, алекс 2611

Anoxia sp.

I identified exactly the same one from Turkey as Anoxia orientalis
, or was I overreacting?

26.09.2007 10:37, omar

Ulyanovsk, maybe you know what, this Hylobius does not live in Moscow? I'm not entirely sure it's him, though. I'd like to see it from above... But very similar

No, I don't know. But you are a good

person anyway, this species seems to have been caught in Moscow, but either once or twice...What caused a strong surprise and a desire to catch him a third time.

26.09.2007 12:02, Mylabris

Oh, I got Milabris with my milabris, but I really want to figure it out... Well, I can't sign these beetles
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with a quadpoint ...
First, they are one and a half times smaller (in length, see my two photos from yesterday)
Secondly, orange, not red
, and the drawing...
We have in our collection (Institute of Plant and Animal Ecology, Ural Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences) all these species(?) they stand in small groups, but not clearly defined .
Do their genitals work (as keys for identification)?

Let's put it this way: in a week, I'll post the definitive tables for gender from my book - and you'll run them. Is it possible to take a photo of these suspicious beetles from above? And separately pronotum?

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26.09.2007 15:22, Bad Den

I identified exactly the same one from Turkey as Anoxia orientalis
, or was I overreacting?

I just don't know them well, so I don't risk writing to the form

26.09.2007 16:53, Nimrod

to Dzanat. You may have been confused by the word "similar" in my previous post. Removed it.

to Sv_Kononova
Fig.1. - Anoxia (Protanoxia) orintalis (Kryn.) Although... In general, I'll look again later in the determinant.
Рис.6. - Anomala (s.str.) solida solida Er. The lighting is not entirely successful - in this perspective, it is more similar to A. osmansis Blanch, but the latter has gaps in the ndcr. they are sculptured differently.
Figure 8. - Pentodon sp. It is very difficult to determine their appearance from the photo, especially from this angle and with a dirty trim.
Sincerely,...

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26.09.2007 20:50, PG18

Let's put it this way: in a week, I'll post the definitive tables for gender from my book - and you'll run them. Is it possible to take a photo of these suspicious beetles from above? And separately pronotum?

Excellent, and very interesting! You can post it in a month... I'm sure it won't be just me who will benefit.
Today Zhukov, unfortunately, did not take. Although now I see that it was worth it. I'll keep that in mind for the future. I can re-shoot what is in the collection from the right angle, but it may not be fast enough.

26.09.2007 21:47, алекс 2611

I just don't know them very well, so I don't risk writing them in front of you

And I don't know very well. I write and I'm afraid. What will be corrected by more experienced comrades.

26.09.2007 22:34, Bad Den

And I don't know very well. I write and I'm afraid. What will be corrected by more experienced comrades.

What if they don't fix it? Will I mislead you?

26.09.2007 23:04, Fornax13

I work with some Polydrusus myself, I've seen enough pictures, it seems really similar to cervinus, but judging by the books 4-5. 5 mm and the author wrote 3mm? Maybe there was no exact measurement, by eye?

That's it, and I was confused by this size.. Although, maybe, really on the eye... In nature, somehow the dimensions are distorted sometimes

26.09.2007 23:10, Fornax13

As far as I remember, Echinops sphaerocephalus is tall ( up to 150 cm), with white/light blue flowers
E. ritro is a maximum of 30-40 cm high, with blue flowers.
I don't think I lied

Yes, that seems to be the case.. Still used to remember only

And ritro now, like ruthenicus is called.

26.09.2007 23:21, Fornax13

No, I don't know. But you are a good person anyway, this species seems to have been caught in Moscow, but either once or twice...What caused a strong surprise and a desire to catch him a third time.

Thanks!:) In the Ulyanovsk region, it is not the most common type, but you can collect it. Moreover, it lives in grass swamps (in the north of the region), and along the bottom of gullies in saline steppes in the south. Apparently, he doesn't care if there was a derbennik on which he sits right during the day.

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27.09.2007 13:06, алекс 2611

And ritro is now, like ruthenicus is called.

Well, now it is more correct to say Echinops ruthenicus Bieb.
I didn't mention it,so as not to confuse you completely.

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27.09.2007 19:33, PG18

That's it, and I was confused by this size.. Although, maybe, really on the eye... In nature, somehow the dimensions are distorted sometimes

Yes, indeed, from memory and "by eye". I apologize. I shouldn't have written so specifically. I'll be more precise from now on.

27.09.2007 23:00, Fornax13

Yes, indeed, from memory and "by eye". I apologize. I shouldn't have written so specifically. I'll be more precise from now on.

Come on... It doesn't matter... Still found out

29.09.2007 11:06, Victor Titov

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29.09.2007 11:11, Victor Titov

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Aromia ?moschata ssp.

I think it's Aromia moschata ambrosiaca Stev.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 29.09.2007 11: 18

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29.09.2007 17:29, FantomXXX

People help to determine what kind of animal. Moscow. Small 2-3mm. they fly. I found a lot of definitions. and Bread beetle and kozheed and something else there. Can anyone say for sure? Where to look for a hotbed. because they are all over the apartment already.

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29.09.2007 21:30, Victor Titov

People help to determine what kind of animal. Moscow. Small 2-3mm. they fly. I found a lot of definitions. and Bread beetle and kozheed and something else there. Can anyone say for sure? Where to look for a hotbed. because they are all over the apartment already.

Very similar to the tobacco beetle, Lasioderma serricorne F. Cosmopolitan. Very often propagated in stocks of dried products of plant origin (dried mushrooms; herbs, such as parsley, medicinal plants-mint, St. John's wort, etc., etc.)

29.09.2007 23:11, FantomXXX

Yes, they are all contagious similar to each other. It's better to take a close-up picture of them while they're running. and if you touch, then the type pretended to be dead, and so on the photo you can't understand anything (everything is running out) Well, it doesn't get any easier from hour to hour, and even tobacco! The entire dry storage facility was shaken up. There is nothing. And the concentration of them is just in the room where we do not store anything. I already collect 15 pieces every 30 minutes. I'm shocked. Well, here's another picture of how he kind of died.

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29.09.2007 23:14, Bad Den

Mmmm... Stegobium paniceum

29.09.2007 23:20, Fornax13

Really similar. If the segments of the whiskers are all about the same - exactly it, if the last 3 are very elongated-Stegobium paniceum L.-bread grinder. And then you never know, maybe both fly around the apartment

29.09.2007 23:26, Fornax13

Yes, it looks like Lasioderma. And there are no dry bouquets? Especially of compound flowers?

29.09.2007 23:28, FantomXXX

And you can chew for the remote in this topic in more detail? Whisker segments(are they just whiskers?) And what are the last 3 (me in the paws with the front back) And both of them: Are these both views? You there tavoy, enough horror to catch up, it's not nice when it's all on the bed to pour.

29.09.2007 23:30, FantomXXX

Dry and compound flowers are exclusively artificial. The flowers were previously searched. I wanted to pinpoint it to take a picture as expected, but it's not so easy to string it(solid as a brick)

29.09.2007 23:32, FantomXXX

I just look again the opinion is divided because of the quality of the photo. Their name is purple to me. I need to know where to look for their headquarters! I'll go try to shoot a better picture(The benefit of these models is the floor of the house)

29.09.2007 23:39, Victor Titov

I'm still in favor of Lasioderma. But take a closer look: is there a bump on the pronotum (it is not visible in the photo). And also: do the dots on the elytra form rows, or is the punctuation of the elytra confused? If tangled, then in the absence of a tubercle - 90% Lasioderma.

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30.09.2007 0:09, Fornax13

With such posterior angles of the pronotum (or rather, with their complete absence) and with such a muzzle, I don't know any more home grinders. I'm also for Lasioderma.

30.09.2007 0:10, FantomXXX

I'd love to see it, but not the son of a Lefty. I have a fotik with super macro (yes, you can see not very super) Yes, a peek as the watchmakers inserted in the eye. That's all the adaptations. I wish I had a microscope. I noticed that they have a party on the wall where the night light shines. Well, here are some more pictures, it won't get any better. Cells are a notebook sheet.

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30.09.2007 0:15, Fornax13

I just look again the opinion is divided because of the quality of the photo. Their name is purple to me. I need to know where to look for their headquarters! I'll go try to shoot a better picture(The benefit of these models is the floor of the house)

Yes, it's really not very pleasant.. Have you ever come across small white gnarled worms anywhere? If they were, it's theirs. They also write that they also use old books for food, so here it is.

30.09.2007 0:23, FantomXXX

There are a lot of books, especially old ones, but they are in another room where they are not particularly visible. But I'll include it in the search circle. I think after the last photos, the opinion should be unambiguous for specialists. Yes, I still saw the same ones on the windowsill as a child. I thought they were as common as ants! Yes, I was mistaken. And here, in addition to the computer upholstered furniture (velour), there is nothing else.

30.09.2007 0:24, Fornax13

Yes, it's definitely a tobacco bug. And they fly well into the light. And you ask the neighbors: and then maybe they have stale grass, and funny beetles fly to you to hang

out In General, you will have to check any substances of vegetable origin: spices, seeds, old newspapers, etc. For rags and cotton wool I can't guarantee - I don't know.

30.09.2007 0:28, FantomXXX

Thank you for the classification. So far, I've made a kind of funnel out of a piece of paper and wrapped it on a stick, and I go once every half an hour to harvest. Boom search. I'll unsubscribe about the results.

30.09.2007 0:29, Fornax13

Well, they like this room better, maybe. And here, by the way. What is now stuffed with soft furniture? Synthetics?

30.09.2007 0:37, FantomXXX

Furniture is mainly made of PU foam. Like foam rubber. I think it's an inedible thing. This room has mostly appliances. I knew it, my mother-in-law brought the dog from the dacha. And it has a lot of flowers. Tomorrow I'll crawl around with a magnifier to find out. Once the red ants got out, but with those easier, on the trail went(and the routes are not short) I found the headquarters right under my nose(next to the printer is a container for cartridges, and there are double walls. There is a uterus and everything is as it should be)

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30.09.2007 0:45, Victor Titov

They don't eat rags and cotton wool. But everything that tastes like a bread grinder (Stegobium paniceum) - with pleasure. And they often meet in a complex (that is, in one camp). It is necessary to sort through all the food supplies in the storage areas. Of course, they can also fly to the light from neighbors, but if in such a terrible amount, as FantomXXX writes, then the source must be in the same apartment. And yet: they do not feed on fresh (live) plants, their larvae develop in a dry substrate.

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30.09.2007 0:45, FantomXXX

Oh, definitely him. I typed in Yandex: Lasioderma, and there the photos are so wonderful. And articles too http://www.cigarclan.ru/articles/2004/6/02/ But who's messing with weed here??? interesting.

30.09.2007 1:29, Fornax13

Well, I say that it is necessary to ask

"Wild" lasioderms I have repeatedly been removed from dry baskets of cornflowers, etc. But they are recently dead, so they may be repopulating them before they die off completely. I didn't watch it on purpose..

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