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12.11.2007 17:25, Zhuk

And so in appearance it is impossible to say soon or not
She will be about two months old, she is actively moving,
holes appear, the body is translucent.

I just have a treetop for a month from a caterpillar to a pupa and a butterfly turned
around maybe this one will also please me?

thanks

I think it should still spend the winter.

12.11.2007 18:18, Zhuk

Please help me with the definition, if possible. Or dissuade me . All from Karelia. Sorry if the photo isn't in focus enough

1-yes
3-yes
4 -?
5 - Arctia caja

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12.11.2007 18:29, AntSkr

What is the difference between Notodonta caterpillars? It seems that they are similar in all European species...

12.11.2007 18:34, IchMan

Thank you for your prompt response.
under No. 4-small change no more than 10 mm in length, seaside meadow (if it helps)
And here is another specimen of this species, even smaller, apparently, of the previous age... Any ideas yet?
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12.11.2007 18:39, okoem

And so in appearance it is impossible to say whether it will be released soon or not

Well, it's not predictable. There are those that spend the winter twice.
When it turns black, it will be released soon. But in the meantime, such a bright and translucent-that means not soon.

17.11.2007 18:54, Dmitrii Musolin

tell me, please, what kind of view?

I think it's from khokhlatok....

Photographed in the Leningrad region, I think on the Karelian Isthmus.

Thanks!

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17.11.2007 18:57, AntSkr

Stauropus fagi

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17.11.2007 20:52, omar

IhMan trifle number 4 is a young swallowtail caterpillar.

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17.11.2007 21:31, Mylabris

I didn't know they were black in the early stages. Yes, and in the photo it seems to be not an umbrella... *and not root)

17.11.2007 22:14, omar

Umbrella

17.11.2007 22:22, okoem

Just like a swallowtail!!! On Leps.it the same goose!:-)

17.11.2007 22:26, AntSkr

On http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/i...ilio/index.html a better photo will be

17.11.2007 22:38, omar

It's just that, gentlemen, butterflies are mostly pets for me, which I prefer to raise from eggs. Therefore, many of the initial stages of caterpillars, even in our most common species, can be very different, as well as the way of life. And this is very interesting.

18.11.2007 0:23, IchMan

IhMan trifle number 4 is a young swallowtail caterpillar.

I wouldn't have thought of that. So small - and this is in August! At the same time and in approximately the same area, I observed (and filmed) also, the caterpillars of the swallowtail of recent ages - along the seashore they are quite common on numerous umbrella plants. Adults are also common there (in summer weather) somewhere until mid-July - the last butterfly discovery of the season last summer was 14.07. However, until this time there was practically no summer there

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Do they spend the winter in the pupa? If so, it is unlikely that this couple managed to feed that summer...

18.11.2007 10:17, AntSkr

They grow quite quickly. Two weeks, as I noticed, and already the last age. Just pupae and they winter, get butterflies of the first generation, in the spring.

19.11.2007 2:40, Juglans

July, south of Primorye

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19.11.2007 12:39, IchMan

They grow quite quickly. Two weeks, as I noticed, and already the last age. Just pupae and they winter, get butterflies of the first generation, in the spring.

I do not know, of course, as in the MO, although there are doubts, but at latitudes 66-67 n. s. swallowtail exactly has one generation, as well as to the south. In our latitudes, butterflies do not appear until the second decade of June. In contrast to Podaliriyya - in that 2 generation-I observed both in the Caucasus and on the lower Volga.

19.11.2007 13:20, omar

In the Moscow region, swallowtails consistently produce two generations. And in the south - three. The first butterflies in the MO are observed from the end of April, the second begins to fly in mid-July.

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19.11.2007 15:53, IchMan

Yes, it will be warmer for you... But even in South Karelia, swallowtails give only one generation.

19.11.2007 15:56, omar

But we have a hard

time with podaliriyami

19.11.2007 18:50, Zhuk

July, south of Primorye

moth, something from Ennominae.

21.11.2007 12:40, IchMan

But we have a hard time with podaliriyami

We don't have them at all...
But who knows these caterpillars? However, the quality of photos is not so good
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21.11.2007 12:42, IchMan

I forgot to explain-both from Karelia, late august

21.11.2007 13:16, okoem

In the Crimea, this is what the caterpillars of Lasiocampa trifolii look like. But in Karelia there may be some similar species, I don't know...

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21.11.2007 14:21, IchMan

In the Crimea, this is what the caterpillars of Lasiocampa trifolii look like. But in Karelia there may be some similar species, I don't know...

In Karelia, L. trifolii does not seem to be marked, although it is included in the Finnish list.
Of this genus, only L. quercus is reliably found in Karelia, but it seems to have a shorter coat, and the color is slightly different...
I looked at the atlas (Nippe, 2000: Atlas der Raupen...), and then went to the Italian site - there are such variations!..

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21.11.2007 17:10, AntSkr

And not M. rubi?

21.11.2007 17:41, IchMan

Also an option, but I'm here, unfortunately, complete

Macrothylacia we have, but what kind of caterpillars does it have -?

This post was edited by IchMan - 11/21/2007 17: 42

21.11.2007 17:52, okoem

I agree that rubi!
According to my observations, when the color of caterpillars is very variable, the head has a constant color. Judging by leps it, rubi's head should be dark. If you have more pictures of this caterpillar, see what color the head is.

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21.11.2007 17:53, AntSkr

http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/i...cia/rubi-4l.jpg

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22.11.2007 15:49, mems

Hello everyone!!

Today caught on the street, on the road scratched
Nearby grass grew and not far - poplars

Who is it? tell me

In advance spaibo

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22.11.2007 16:52, okoem

Caterpillar scoops, possibly something from Noctuinae. Crawling to pupate. Fill it with soil and let it bury itself...
I don't think it will be possible to determine the type of caterpillar, there are many similar ones, on the one hand, and individual variability on the other...

24.11.2007 19:03, Ugadajka

Hello! Here many people have found the answer to their question, maybe I will be lucky... Here is such a "miracle" we found in the country, on an asphalt path. Perhaps it got there from the vineyard (it just grows nearby). But none of the neighbors have ever seen such an insect in our area. It is notable for its trunk. Can stick it out and hide it back. Maybe someone knows something about the existence of such a "beast"? I would be very grateful for any suggestions.

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24.11.2007 21:57, okoem

This is the caterpillar Deilephila elpenor (Linnaeus, 1758) - a medium wine hawk moth. "Trunk", in fact, is her head;-))) It feeds on grapes, so the discovery near the vineyard is not accidental! Judging by the fact that the caterpillar was crawling on the asphalt, it was looking for a place to pupate.

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24.11.2007 23:36, Ugadajka

Thank you so much! Now I'll tell all the neighbors about our discovery, otherwise everyone is wondering if I've learned anything new. "Judging by the fact that the caterpillar was crawling on the asphalt, it was looking for a place to pupate.".... And what will it turn into later? After pupation, what will it look like!

This post was edited by Ugadajka - 24.11.2007 23: 41

25.11.2007 0:32, Victor Titov

It will turn into a very beautiful butterfly, you can view it here http://gum-foto.narod.ru/foto-2/Page-2.html (fifth, counting from the left, photos in the first and second horizontal rows).

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 25.11.2007 00: 40

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25.11.2007 8:43, mems

People, I found the masonry.
One on a sycamore tree, the other on a cherry tree.
Can I find out who did it?

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25.11.2007 10:33, Ilia Ustiantcev

Most likely some kind of wave...for example, an unpaired silkworm!

25.11.2007 11:30, okoem

And what will she turn into later? After pupation, what will it look like!

Here here lots of photos.

25.11.2007 12:58, omar

First clutch-unpaired.

04.12.2007 21:30, PG18

Can anyone guess what kind of cocoonworm it is? I didn't find any such geese on European websites. It was shot in the Southern Urals, but Morozzz shot the same one in the Moscow region, identifying it as Phyllodesma ilicifolia...

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