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23.01.2011 17:15, Romyald

Hello everyone. Yes, indeed, the motor resource of Japanese women is impressive, but every gram counts for a traveling entomologist, and how to take such an expensive generator with you on a risky hike (if you are driving 10000km or more from home). Therefore, the choice still remains for Chinese inverters. It is not a pity to throw them, and the casing can be removed (for example, I saved 2.5 kg with this operation, just for a portable screen). My entomological Ammo Kit / Generator(8.5)+gasoline(3.8)_ for one night+screen (2)/ almost makes up the weight (Kipor 1.0 kv, for example, bought in a store). In addition, I will ask you to take into account the operating conditions of the device, for example, my ant in the Moscow region on economy mode pulls 500W for a long time, and on the border with Cambodia, where the night temperature does not fall below 30 degrees only 160 W, or fishing in the Pamirs at an altitude of 2500m, also differs significantly from the standard one.
Buying a generator on the spot, in my opinion, is the very last thing (as they say, there is no choice). Local generators lighter than 17 kg I have not seen, and they work through the stump deck. If you still have no choice, then you can't do without a car, and this is an additional cost.
Problems with transporting the generator may arise at the border , but this problem can be solved by entering the generator in the declaration (I recommend that you have a check and passport for the generator with you). I was detained last year at the border between Russia and Abkhazia in doe.....employees (this never happened anywhere else), but when they found out the cost of the generator, they left me alone.
But you get full pleasure when you spend the whole day carrying a backpack with all sorts of gadgets along narrow paths, under the ridicule of aborigines, and then at night 15 km from the nearest settlement, after a little magic, you start the light. Here the black faces of my guides really change, exult, as in prehistoric times. You feel like a pioneer (a very pleasant feeling).
In any case, whatever generator you choose, the most important factor in its durability is the user (as they say, the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat), and the tasks that you set for him.
In the photo, I'm with one of the guides dumbfounded by the light. Thailand-Cambodia border (30 km from Chantaburi) October 2010The second photo of the neighborhood of the village of Garmchashma (Zap.Pamir), my kind companions, late July 2009.

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23.01.2011 19:53, Romyald

All detailed photos can be found on page 28/39 column at the top. The generator is called Endress 700 TC, but I repeat that there may be better cars (my generator is only an option). In any case, my choice when buying a generator was based on the ratio of its weight and price.
Such low-power devices should be used with great care, listening carefully to his mood. My generator is more suitable for intercontinental travel, especially since it has already paid for itself with two previous trips (in Laos, Pakse 17 kg. kaka costs 160 cu), it is not difficult to calculate that two 160 cu will be 320 cu, against 330 CU. which my generator costs in Moscow. Plus saved nerves, as well as knowledge of his temper and character. The only downside is that with each successful trip, a human attachment develops, and that if it happens (I tapped a piece of wood), you will have to become his slave, perhaps at the most inappropriate moment.
My device has worked for about 400 hours, until it asks for a lot of oil (one fill for 10 days and, just a little, three caps of topping up). The most important thing is to protect his unfastened head at the time of the flight and drain the oil from the engine, the rest will fly anyway. And we must not forget about a smooth, dosed load supply, otherwise you will have to carry it without a head, like a wounded jungle comrade.
For local hunting, any inverter up to 1 sq. m is quite suitable.. Honda, then generally a luxury. For your information, there is a generator even lighter and more compact than the Nissamaran IG 600, but people rejected it.

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23.01.2011 21:53, Bad Den

Good evening colleagues. I want to tell you about my generator, and how to make a screen for the night. Let's start with the generator. Initially, I bought an Endress 700 TC inverter generator. I've been using it since 2006. He worked flawlessly in the south of Russia, the Volga region, the black earth part of Russia and in many regions nearby Moscow. In general, I am very satisfied, but I want to note that inverter generators do not like high inrush currents and overload. And, as you know, lamps used by entomologists (500W,250W) require just a high inrush current, so in order not to mess up the generator's brains, I chose lamps with a power of 160 watts. (although 250 and 500 watts. my generator pulls). But you need to work all night, and this is a long load for the generator. I have tested different lamp capacities: when using one 500 W lamp, the generator runs at the limit, as well as with two 250 W lamps, consuming a large amount of gasoline and losing its rhythm during long-term operation. There is also a noticeable difference between 250 watts and 160 watts. I didn't find any (the insects were equally amicably flying towards the light). Gasoline savings are significant when using two lamps of 160 watts each. on each side of the screen (300 ml per hour vs. 450 ml at full load). The same consumption and when using one 250 w. lamp. Consumption is especially important for long-distance hikes, when everything needs to be dragged on its hump.
The second trip to Azerbaijan required me to decide which generator to use, because this time I decided to fly by plane. Immediately there was a question of baggage weight (20 kg in eco. class). I had to remove the cover from the generator and adjust it so that it fits in the backpack (I adapted plywood for the bottom of the generator and aluminum strips for the microcircuit). Through these operations, it was possible to reduce the spatial dimensions of the generator, as well as the weight (dry weight in assembly 10.5 , after modernization 8.5 kg). The fuel tank also had to be changed, I adapted a small canister from the brakes (see photo). It is attached with Velcro.
In this disassembled form, he conscientiously plowed Azerbaijan and Laos from dusk to dawn with small rest periods between refueling. Consumption of 3.5 liters per night is an excellent result. The only drawback: this vulnerability to precipitation (but I easily solved it with a piece of polyethylene), as well as a mandatory condition for the vertical position of the backpack when moving (I also passed it).
In general, anyone interested, please write or call. I'll answer everyone.

And how is the issue of mandatory vertical position resolved? After all, on the plane, luggage is thrown as you like.
Why is a tin canister of brake fluid used? Imho, plastic is even easier. By the way, was the neck plugged with a rag for some specific purpose, or was there simply no suitable cover?

23.01.2011 22:12, Romyald

I also forgot to mention the brand of oil for 4-stroke engines. The last time in the south of Laos, my motor at a load of 320 Watts. somehow unstable worked, because of which I was forced to leave one lamp 160 watts on one side, and 20 watts. lamp on the other side (for screen illumination). In the center of Laos, in the north, and Chang Mae, the motor confidently pulled 320 watts. The temperature there is about 23 degrees at night (in the south of Laos it was very hot, probably 28 degrees, I stood at the screen in a T-shirt and shorts all night and constantly wiped my sweat), maybe this is the reason? The oil I used:Sae 30 from Liki Mouly for lawn mowers. This time I will try to fill the oil with a thicker one. Here you can't guess, in Azerbaijan, for example, it's cold in the mountains, you can pull the rope five times, but as soon as you go down to Bramea, you will start immediately.
Please note that the oil in the backpack can also be used. I flew to Lenkoran with butter, no one said a word, but some nerd came back and pulled me out of the green corridor. I thought that the insects were found, but he was interested in oil and a microchip from the generator. He asked me why the microchip was needed, and I explained that I was a tourist and liked to sleep in the mountains at night, and the generator was used for cooking. I returned the chip, but took the oil. Says you can't carry oil in your luggage. There's not much oil left, but it's a pity for the bottle, it was too compact and convenient.
If you buy oil on the spot, then in a distant foreign country they can sell oil from the transmission, it is very difficult to explain to them what is needed. If only you can find and read the instructions yourself, but already in English.

23.01.2011 22:31, Black Coleopter

The other day I was in a medical equipment store and saw this miracle:
OBB-1x15 household bactericidal irradiator
General characteristics:

It is intended for disinfection of air in domestic premises, as well as in public places.

It consists of a housing that houses the starter, throttle, and bactericidal lamp. When the lamp is running, the upper layers of indoor air are irradiated. The lower layers of air are decontaminated by convection. The irradiator should be connected to the network for 1.5-2 hours, followed by switching off for 30-60 minutes and airing the room to reduce the concentration of ozone generated during lamp burning. Air disinfection can be performed periodically 3-4 times a day. Direct exposure to ultraviolet light is unacceptable, as it can cause burns to the eyes and skin, as well as the death of indoor plants. To avoid this, the irradiator should be suspended at a height
of 2-2.3 m from the floor or turned on in the absence of people in the room.
Technical data:
Radiation source-bactericidal lamp DB-15 or TUV-15
Network-220 V, 50 Hz
Power consumption-30 V
Overall dimensions-500 x 90 x 55 mm
Weight-2.5 kg
Complete set: irradiator assembled without lamp and starter, lamp DB-15 1 pc. or TUV-15 1 pc., starter, passport.
Packing: cardboard box, 53*11*13. Weight: no more than 3 kg
. And now vopros, dear colleagues: can I use it for night collection of insects???

23.01.2011 22:47, Romyald

And how is the issue of mandatory vertical position resolved? After all, on the plane, luggage is thrown as you like.
Why is a tin canister of brake fluid used? Imho, plastic is even easier. By the way, was the neck plugged with a rag for some specific purpose, or was there simply no suitable cover?

On the plane, the oil is completely drained and the generator does not care how it is delivered. I wrap the carburetor area in calico and additionally slip a tent (by the way, it is also light 1,7 kg.) to soften the possible impact. After the chip, this is the second vulnerable node.
Special attention should be paid to the transportation of the generator after filling the oil. The last time I drove the Bankokk - Pakse - Laxao - Vientiane-Chang Mai-Umphang (MaeSot) - Chantaburi route for about 3000 km, I asked drivers everywhere to keep my backpack in an upright position. Sometimes, when the driver was angrily silent, I took out some candy wrappers, and we immediately found a common (popular)language. language. The backpack stood rooted to the spot.
As for the fuel tank, of course it is convenient, but very compact, and yet (oddly enough) heavier than my small jar of tormozuhi. Rags are always needed, both for wiping gasoline and oil, and for plugging the neck of the jar (there is less smell). I plug the mouth with a piece of rag, and put the whole thing in an airtight cellophane bag, tying it in a knot.The smell is almost absent.

24.01.2011 0:32, Romyald

Don't worry about lamps at all. The most effective and proven are the no-network 160,250 Watts. When calculating a trip, I advise you to take into account the phases of the moon, and when fishing, the distance from extraneous light sources and good visibility from all sides.
It is better not to mess with ultraviolet light at all, retinal burns are guaranteed, even if you think that you are protected. At the same time, the effect of insect flight is identical to that of the classic version(160, 250 W), as with the same lamps, but crushed with a throttle. One of the most cautious butterflies, the Komarov hawk moth, still flies up to the light source, all you have to do is choose the right fishing spot so that the narrow strip, the boundaries of light and darkness, is clearly visible. This also applies to many wary tropical scoops of the genus (Eudocima and Phyllodes). Kosobrina, for example, was never seen on the screen at all, she always flew along the border of light and shadow. Her closest relative from Papua (I don't know what to call her correctly) was also extremely careful and was caught by me at a distance of 5 m from the screen.

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24.01.2011 9:10, Romyald

Question to Romyald: How do you transport the generator on the plane? Last season, the HYUNDAI 1000is generator was taken away from me by the Artyom airport security service with writing papers about the seizure of dangerous cargo.According to the rules of transportation,it is forbidden to transport engines in any form, even new ones.Not to mention the smell of gasoline, just the smell.Therefore, this question is very relevant for me.

Just, to the generator, there were no questions at all. As I wrote, we got to the bottom of the chip and oil once (the latter was withdrawn, the chip was given away). And I hermetically plug the gas hoses with a bolt of suitable diameter and clamp them with a yoke. The gasoline barrel is located in a tight cellophane bag under a tight knot.

24.01.2011 9:29, Bad Den

Just, to the generator, there were no questions at all. As I wrote, we got to the bottom of the chip and oil once (the latter was withdrawn, the chip was given away). And I hermetically plug the gas hoses with a bolt of suitable diameter and clamp them with a yoke. The gasoline barrel is located in a tight cellophane bag under a tight knot.

Maybe just some luck?

That's why I suggest using a 0.5-liter plastic canister of brake fluid as a tank (for example, this one - http://pumabuild.com/pumacat/images/Castrol-Dot.jpg). It is not a pity to throw it away before the flight (so that it does not stink), and it is light, and instead of a rag, a screw-on cork is resistant to petroleum products.

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24.01.2011 10:43, Romyald

Oh, by the way,on the "kaku"-very cool flies, sometimes better than the light.And buying a generator in Southeast Asia is not a problem.

Yes, indeed, there are no problems in buying /kaki / anywhere, but after buying it, you will have to hire another porter (if you can find him, and explain on your fingers what he needs to do). The English-speaking porter, I think, you will have to carry yourself, along with the generator, because of his huge candy wrapper appetite. But that's not all. We need another porter for gasoline, because / kaka/ is also very voracious (10 liters per night against my 3.8 liters). With that much gas, I can spend three days wandering around the lost world, and still have enough to cook grub.

24.01.2011 12:29, Romyald

Personally, I have never seen an inverter abroad, and its price will obviously be unaffordable. On my first trip to Tajikistan, I spent half a day with a local friend looking for a conventional generator in three markets. As a result, I bought a bandura for 115u.e. on 17 gc., which says 2.5 sq. m., which in fact, two lamps of 250 W. per with great difficulty.
Everyone decides for themselves what suits them best. We are just kindly sharing a meager experience. In my version, light and mobile privualiruet. The money saved, from buying a generator on the spot, goes to hiring a guide in particularly hard - to-reach places or something else. I usually rent a motorbike for fishing on the road (it completely covers the territory up to 30 km from the selected location). I try to make my day of stay with /full minced meat/ cost no more than 50 CU (rent a room with air conditioning, rent a motorcycle, three times. food, fruit, gas, a guide, if necessary, bus and train expenses, and even a couple of drinks and hooliganism).

24.01.2011 13:04, Serg Svetlov

Personally, I have never seen an inverter abroad, and its price will obviously be unaffordable. On my first trip to Tajikistan, I spent half a day with a local friend looking for a conventional generator in three markets. As a result, I bought a bandura for 115u.e. on 17 gc., which says 2.5 sq. m., which in fact, two lamps of 250 W. per with great difficulty.
Everyone decides for themselves what suits them best. We are just kindly sharing a meager experience. In my version, light and mobile privualiruet. The money saved, from buying a generator on the spot, goes to hiring a guide in particularly hard - to-reach places or something else. I usually rent a motorbike for fishing on the road (it completely covers the territory up to 30 km from the selected location). I try to make my day of stay with /full minced meat/ cost no more than 50 CU (rent a room with air conditioning, rent a motorcycle, three times. food, fruit, gas, a guide, if necessary, bus and train expenses, and even a couple of drinks and hooliganism).

Yes, everything is correct,it is necessary to share experience.That's why I wrote that the generator can simply be taken away at the airport and to avoid this, I suggested a way out.Someone will fly forever to all corners of the world and will not be "picked on".And someone will not even enter the airport when all this pile of iron rings.It's just that everyone chooses for themselves, personally I won't fly with the generator anymore 20 rubles is not superfluous,you can live on them in Tae for a month.And to rent a" gena "is not expensive or buy a" two-stroke "Chinese production - the price of the issue is 100 bucks and the weight is not more than 5 kg, it will last for a month, it will definitely not "die".It is up to those who will go,drag,etc.

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24.01.2011 20:19, Romyald

Well, of course, there is no 5-kg generator in nature yet.But there are Chinese disposable 2-and 4-stroke ones.weighing from 8 to 11 kilos, if you remove the facings and extra parts, such as voltmeters, you can win another 1-2 kg of weight.Yes, and I did not find a model for 650 watts-the weight was about 7 kg.Here are the links:
2"taktniki" http://sibgenerator.ru/p438228-benzinovyj-...tor-elekon.html -the price in China is 2 times less.
http://centr-snab.ru/catalog/catalog_elect...a_dde-0006.html

and a 4-stroke engine http://www.made-in-china.com/showroom/doub...-Generator.html
On this site, you can find all your generators, only with different stickers.

Your first link shows the same, but already lightweight /kaka/, and in the second you need to fly to Bankokk via Beijing.
The biggest problem with two-stroke engines is the carburetor, so far I have not met a specialist who could adjust the voltage. For every fishing trip with such a device, I recommend taking a voltmeter with you.

25.01.2011 9:41, Serg Svetlov

Article 15: Prohibited items

Dangerous items in your luggage

For safety reasons, the dangerous items listed below must not be carried in baggage and must not be carried by passengers in the cabin.:

Pressurized gases (liquefied gases, flammable gases, high-pressure gases, toxic gases) such as butane, oxygen, liquid nitrogen, scuba tanks, and other pressurized gas cylinders. Items with internal combustion engines such as chainsaws, model airplanes, and lawn mowers. Oxidizing agents and caustic substances such as acids, alkalis, and batteries with liquid electrolyte. Items containing mercury (thermometers) or chlorine. Explosives, ammunition, firearms, fireworks, Christmas crackers, pistons. Flammable substances and objects such as lighter refueling fluid, matches, paints, etc.

Radioactive materials. Oxidizing agents and bleach agents. Poisons and substances that pose biological hazards, such as insecticides, herbicides, and live viruses. Suitcases and briefcases with an alarm system installed. Other dangerous items, such as magnetic materials, irritating substances.

Medicines and hygiene items necessary for passengers during the trip are allowed for transportation. Permitted items include perfumes, hairsprays, and other liquids contained in specially designed bottles.

Items related to weapons are prohibited for transportation. Any item that can (or looks like) cause harm. Any kind of firearm is prohibited, as well as copies, imitations and toys in the form of weapons. Components and spare parts of weapons (excluding optical sights). Pneumatic weapons. Signal flare guns. Starting points. Toy weapons of all varieties. Industrial guns and nail guns. Crossbows and arrows. Catapults. Harpoons and underwater guns. Shockers and stunners. Adaptations for humane killing of animals. Ice axes and mountaineering axes. Dangerous razors and their blades.

Cold piercing and cutting weapons, as well as sharp objects that can cause injury. Various tools such as axes, sickles, etc.are also prohibited. Knives with switchblades of any length, ceremonial knives with blades more than 6 cm long, made of metal or other solid substance that can be used as weapons are not allowed. It is forbidden to carry cleavers, machetes, sabers, swords, scalpels, scissors with blades more than 6 cm long.

Dangerous items that cannot be accepted for carriage in hand luggage, but can be transported in checked baggage in proper packaging:

- Catapults.
- Knives with blades up to 6 cm long, including office knives. Made of steel, ceramic, or plastic.
- Razor blades of any type;
- Darts from the game of darts;
- Scissors;
- Medical syringes;
- Knitting needles;
- Sports bats and other sports accessories and equipment.

Note: Any sharp objects in checked baggage must be securely packed to prevent damage to baggage scanners and injury to airport staff.[color=red]

25.01.2011 9:53, Bad Den

Sergey, what is the name of the document from which you gave an excerpt?
Here's what I found in the Consultant:

Appendix No. 1 to the Rules for conducting pre-flight and Post-flight inspections (approved by Order No. 104 of July 25, 2007) (paragraphs 26, 71)

LIST OF THE MAIN DANGEROUS SUBSTANCES AND ITEMS PROHIBITED (PERMITTED UNDER THE REQUIRED CONDITIONS) FOR CARRIAGE ON BOARD THE AIRCRAFT BY CREW members AND PASSENGERS IN CHECKED BAGGAGE AND THINGS CARRIED BY passengers

1. It is prohibited for crew members and passengers to carry the following dangerous substances and objects on board the aircraft in their checked baggage and in their belongings:
1) explosives, explosive devices and objects filled with them:
all kinds of gunpowder, in any package and in any quantity;
live ammunition (including small-caliber);
cartridges for gas weapons;
hunting primers (pistons);
pyrotechnic devices: signal and lighting flares, signal cartridges, landing sticks, smoke cartridges explosives (checkers), demolition matches, sparklers, railway firecrackers;
tnt, dynamite, tol, ammonal and other explosives;
detonator caps, electric detonators, electric igniters, detonating and fire-conducting cord, etc.;
2) compressed and liquefied gases:
gases for domestic use (butane-propane) and other gases;
gas canisters filled with nerve and tear gas, etc.;
3) flammable liquids:
acetone;
gasoline;
samples of flammable petroleum products;
methanol;
methyl acetate (methyl ether);
carbon disulfide;
ethers;
ethylcellosol;
4) flammable solids:
substances subject to spontaneous combustion;
substances that emit highly flammable gases when interacting with water:
potassium, sodium, metallic calcium and their alloys, phosphorous calcium, etc.;
white, yellow and red phosphorus and all other substances belonging to the category of flammable solids;
5) oxidizing substances and organic peroxides:
nitrocellulose colloidal, in granules or flakes, dry or wet, containing less than 25% water or solvent;
nitrocellulose colloidal, in lumps, wet, containing less than 25% alcohol;
nitrocellulose dry or wet, containing less than 30% solvent or 20% water, etc.;
6) toxic substances;
7) radioactive materials8)
caustic and corrosive substances:
strong inorganic acids: hydrochloric, sulfuric, nitric and others;
hydrofluoric (hydrofluoric) acid and other strong acids and corrosive substances;
9) toxic and toxic substances:
any toxic strong and toxic substances in liquid or solid state, packed in any container;
brucine;
nicotine;
strychnine;
tetrahydrofurfuryl alcohol;
antifreeze;
brake fluid;
ethylene glycol;
mercury;
all prussic acid salts and cyanide preparations;
cyclone, cyanoplav, arsenic anhydride, etc.
other dangerous substances, objects and cargo that can be used as a weapon of attack on passengers and crew of the aircraft, as well as creating a threat to the flight of the aircraft;
10) weapons:
pistols, revolvers, rifles, carbines and other firearms, gas and pneumatic weapons, electric shock devices, cutlasses, stilettos, amphibious bayonet knives, except in cases and in accordance with the procedure established by the legislation of the Russian Federation.
A detailed list of dangerous substances and items prohibited for carriage on board aircraft by crew members and passengers is contained in the Technical Instructions for the Safe Transport of Dangerous Goods by Air (ICAO Doc 9284 AN / 905).
2. It is allowed to transport the following items and substances on board the aircraft by crew members and passengers in compliance with the required conditions:
1) in checked baggage in cargo or baggage compartments of an aircraft with isolated passenger access to baggage during flight:
crossbows, spearfishing rifles, checkers, sabers, cleavers, scimitars, broadswords, swords, swords, bayonets, daggers, knives: hunting, knives with ejecting blades, with locking locks, imitators of any type of weapon;
household knives (scissors) with a blade (blade) length exceeding 60 mm;
alcoholic beverages with a content of more than 24%, but not more than 70% alcohol by volume in containers with a capacity of not more than 5 liters, in containers intended for retail trade-not more than 5 liters per passenger;
liquids and alcoholic beverages with an alcohol content by volume of not more than 24%;
aerosols intended for use in sports or household purposes, the exhaust valves of which are protected by caps from spontaneous release of the contents, in containers with a capacity of not more than 0.5 kg or 500 ml-not more than 2 kg or 2 liters per passenger;
3) in things used for passengers:
a medical thermometer - one per passenger;
a mercury tonometer in a standard case - one per passenger;
a mercury barometer or pressure gauge packed in an airtight container and sealed with the sender's seal;
disposable lighters-one per passenger;
dry ice for cooling perishable products-no more than 2 kg per passenger;
3% peroxide hydrogen - no more than 100 ml per passenger;
liquids, gels, and aerosols classified as non-hazardous:
in containers with a capacity of not more than 100 ml (or equivalent capacity in other units of volume measurement), packed in a securely sealed transparent plastic bag with a volume of not more than 1 liter - one bag per passenger.
Liquids in containers with a capacity of more than 100 ml are not accepted for transportation even if the container is only partially filled.
Medicines, baby food, and special dietary needs are excluded from transportation.
Liquids purchased from duty-free shops at the airport or on board the aircraft must be packed in a securely sealed (sealed) plastic bag that provides identification of access to the contents of the package during the flight, which has reliable confirmation that this purchase was made at airport duty-free shops or on board the aircraft on the day of delivery. (days) of the trip.
The administration of an airport, airline, or operator may decide to introduce additional measures to ensure aviation safety on flights with increased risk, as a result of which it may prohibit the transportation of the following items in the cabin of an aircraft:
corkscrews;
needles for subcutaneous injections (unless a medical justification is provided);
knitting needles;
scissors with a blade length of less than 60 mm;
folding (without a retainer) travel, penknives with a blade length of less than 60 mm.

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25.01.2011 10:16, Bad Den

These are the general rules for carrying baggage on low-cost air carriers (which we all fly on).There is a website http://www.lowcosts.ru/ here you will find all the information, including the rating of companies,flight safety, etc.

Found, http://www.lowcosts.ru/laws/aerarann-terms.shtml
This is the " Rules and Restrictions of Aer Arann (Ireland)"
Although in general, yes, I agree - it may well turn out that either the airline has clearly spelled out in the documents about the ban on the carriage of internal combustion engines in baggage, or it may turn out in the regulatory documents of the country in which the airline is registered a point similar to the point of our Rules "other dangerous substances, objects and cargo that can be used as a weapon of attack on passengers, crew of the aircraft, as well as creating a threat to the flight of the aircraft;"

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25.01.2011 10:49, Serg Svetlov

Well, that's not all! As far as I remember, at the airport in Artem I heard such a phrase- " I need us....find out what the airline allows you to carry and what you can't! I am the security service of Knedeci airport and I don't care that you were allowed to pass in Domodedovo - they have their own security service." Then the police were called, witnesses and a couple of aunts drew up an act on the seizure and goodbye "gene".I don't insist on anything, whether you want to take it or not,it's everyone's choice.I didn't have any problems in Domodedovo.I think that every airport has its own rules for baggage screening and actions.Someone will close their eyes, and someone is principled!!! (Human factor)Who will you hit!But the fact that internal combustion engines are classified as prohibited goods is for sure.On the act (sorry I threw it out) they referred to some points of the baggage allowance rules. I can't remember now.

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