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26.01.2011 10:02, Romyald

The last and most undesirable choice remains: completely disassemble the generator into cogs. In this form, no one will call it ICE anymore.

26.01.2011 10:12, Romyald

Sergey, what is the name of the document from which you gave an excerpt?
Here's what I found in the Consultant:

Appendix No. 1 to the Rules for conducting pre-flight and Post-flight inspections (approved by Order No. 104 of July 25, 2007) (paragraphs 26, 71)

LIST OF THE MAIN DANGEROUS SUBSTANCES AND ITEMS PROHIBITED (PERMITTED UNDER THE REQUIRED CONDITIONS) FOR CARRIAGE ON BOARD THE AIRCRAFT BY CREW members AND PASSENGERS IN CHECKED BAGGAGE AND THINGS CARRIED BY passengers

1. It is prohibited for crew members and passengers to carry the following dangerous substances and objects on board the aircraft in their checked baggage and in their belongings:
1) explosives, explosive devices and objects filled with them:
all kinds of gunpowder, in any package and in any quantity;
live ammunition (including small-caliber);
cartridges for gas weapons;
hunting primers (pistons);
pyrotechnic devices: signal and lighting flares, signal cartridges, landing sticks, smoke cartridges explosives (checkers), demolition matches, sparklers, railway firecrackers;
tnt, dynamite, tol, ammonal and other explosives;
detonator caps, electric detonators, electric igniters, detonating and fire-conducting cord, etc.;
2) compressed and liquefied gases:
gases for domestic use (butane-propane) and other gases;
gas canisters filled with nerve and tear gas, etc.;
3) flammable liquids:
acetone;
gasoline;
samples of flammable petroleum products;
methanol;
methyl acetate (methyl ether);
carbon disulfide;
ethers;
ethylcellosol;
4) flammable solids:
substances subject to spontaneous combustion;
substances that emit highly flammable gases when interacting with water:
potassium, sodium, metallic calcium and their alloys, phosphorous calcium, etc.;
white, yellow and red phosphorus and all other substances belonging to the category of flammable solids;
5) oxidizing substances and organic peroxides:
nitrocellulose colloidal, in granules or flakes, dry or wet, containing less than 25% water or solvent;
nitrocellulose colloidal, in lumps, wet, containing less than 25% alcohol;
nitrocellulose dry or wet, containing less than 30% solvent or 20% water, etc.;
6) toxic substances;
7) radioactive materials8)
caustic and corrosive substances:
strong inorganic acids: hydrochloric, sulfuric, nitric and others;
hydrofluoric (hydrofluoric) acid and other strong acids and corrosive substances;
9) toxic and toxic substances:
any toxic strong and toxic substances in liquid or solid state, packed in any container;
brucine;
nicotine;
strychnine;
tetrahydrofurfuryl alcohol;
antifreeze;
brake fluid;
ethylene glycol;
mercury;
all prussic acid salts and cyanide preparations;
cyclone, cyanoplav, arsenic anhydride, etc.
other dangerous substances, objects and cargo that can be used as a weapon of attack on passengers and crew of the aircraft, as well as creating a threat to the flight of the aircraft;
10) weapons:
pistols, revolvers, rifles, carbines and other firearms, gas and pneumatic weapons, electric shock devices, cutlasses, stilettos, amphibious bayonet knives, except in cases and in accordance with the procedure established by the legislation of the Russian Federation.
A detailed list of dangerous substances and items prohibited for carriage on board aircraft by crew members and passengers is contained in the Technical Instructions for the Safe Transport of Dangerous Goods by Air (ICAO Doc 9284 AN / 905).
2. It is allowed to transport the following items and substances on board the aircraft by crew members and passengers in compliance with the required conditions:
1) in checked baggage in cargo or baggage compartments of an aircraft with isolated passenger access to baggage during flight:
crossbows, spearfishing rifles, checkers, sabers, cleavers, scimitars, broadswords, swords, swords, bayonets, daggers, knives: hunting, knives with ejecting blades, with locking locks, imitators of any type of weapon;
household knives (scissors) with a blade (blade) length exceeding 60 mm;
alcoholic beverages with a content of more than 24%, but not more than 70% alcohol by volume in containers with a capacity of not more than 5 liters, in containers intended for retail trade-not more than 5 liters per passenger;
liquids and alcoholic beverages with an alcohol content by volume of not more than 24%;
aerosols intended for use in sports or household purposes, the exhaust valves of which are protected by caps from spontaneous release of the contents, in containers with a capacity of not more than 0.5 kg or 500 ml-not more than 2 kg or 2 liters per passenger;
3) in things used for passengers:
a medical thermometer - one per passenger;
a mercury tonometer in a standard case - one per passenger;
a mercury barometer or pressure gauge packed in an airtight container and sealed with the sender's seal;
disposable lighters-one per passenger;
dry ice for cooling perishable products-no more than 2 kg per passenger;
3% peroxide hydrogen - no more than 100 ml per passenger;
liquids, gels, and aerosols classified as non-hazardous:
in containers with a capacity of not more than 100 ml (or equivalent capacity in other units of volume measurement), packed in a securely sealed transparent plastic bag with a volume of not more than 1 liter - one bag per passenger.
Liquids in containers with a capacity of more than 100 ml are not accepted for transportation even if the container is only partially filled.
Medicines, baby food, and special dietary needs are excluded from transportation.
Liquids purchased from duty-free shops at the airport or on board the aircraft must be packed in a securely sealed (sealed) plastic bag that provides identification of access to the contents of the package during the flight, which has reliable confirmation that this purchase was made at airport duty-free shops or on board the aircraft on the day of delivery. (days) of the trip.
The administration of an airport, airline, or operator may decide to introduce additional measures to ensure aviation safety on flights with increased risk, as a result of which it may prohibit the transportation of the following items in the cabin of an aircraft:
corkscrews;
needles for subcutaneous injections (unless a medical justification is provided);
knitting needles;
scissors with a blade length of less than 60 mm;
folding (without a retainer) travel, penknives with a blade length of less than 60 mm.


Based on this list, the passenger himself may be removed from the flight, since some of the listed gases may accumulate in his last parts of the intestine.

26.01.2011 10:43, Romyald

Well, that's not all! As far as I remember, at the airport in Artem I heard such a phrase- " I need us....find out what the airline allows you to carry and what you can't! I am the security service of Knedeci airport and I don't care that you were allowed to pass in Domodedovo - they have their own security service." Then the police were called, witnesses and a couple of aunts drew up an act on the seizure and goodbye "gene".I don't insist on anything, whether you want to take it or not,it's everyone's choice.I didn't have any problems in Domodedovo.I think that every airport has its own rules for baggage screening and actions.Someone will close their eyes, and someone is principled!!! (Human factor)Who will you hit!But the fact that internal combustion engines are classified as prohibited goods is for sure.On the act (sorry I threw it out) they referred to some points of the baggage allowance rules. I can't remember now.


You said everything correctly. Only / goodbye Gena/, we say every time we have already used the generator in countries not so far away (it has worked out and we no longer need it). And in my case, three times / Gena / stayed with me, if anything, let them take it away. Without me, they still won't start it (connect a bunch of wires, and perform at least three operations to start it).
By the way, the disassembled type of generator is preferable, because these blockheads (security service and customs) are more likely to simply not want to get involved due to lack of profit.

26.01.2011 11:54, Bad Den

Without me, they still won't start it (connect a bunch of wires, and perform at least three operations to start it).

If there are a lot of wires, it may look like an explosive device. I'm afraid, in that case, there is a chance to spend some time in Zugunder-until we find out.

26.01.2011 12:52, Victor Gazanchidis

Viktor, how long did the battery last and how long did it take to charge?

It never reached very intensive operation, but it works for 3-4 hours. On charging just for the night put-enough.

26.01.2011 14:30, Romyald

If there are a lot of wires, it may look like an explosive device. I'm afraid, in that case, there is a chance to spend some time in Zugunder-until we find out.



Yes, of course. But the bulk of departing entomologists take even more lamp wires with them. No one has detained them yet.
And problems with the transportation of unusual goods, in my opinion, arise only in the Russian Federation, and only among Russians (and partly in the post-Soviet countries).
I'll give you one example from L. Experience. When crossing the Azerbaijan-Russia border by car in 2009, I was carrying a small suitcase with straighteners (on which there were butterflies). Az. border guards quite politely searched the car, found nothing suspicious, but found insects. They asked me what it was. I hugged her. From the list to show to your boss. I stayed in the car. Brought back in 15 minutes, despite the fact that several butterflies were in the Kr. kn. of Azerbaijan. I call such actions logical and conscious. After all, any sane person understands that if a tourist has arrived in the country, then he has already paid enough. And because of a dozen insects caught, his homeland will not die. Of course, this is not entirely correct, because you need to get an official paper, and carry everything that you caught quite legally. But there is, as you all know, a human bureaucratic system that takes not so much money as time and nerves. So we continue to experiment with His Majesty's case. And if everything is OK, we drink champagne.
Now to the point. What do you think happened at the Russian customs office? Without three times – hemorrhoids. I was tired of explaining to them that I was not bringing Russian fauna, but Az., that I was not a speculator, but just a collector (there were no more than 100 insects available). After that, the narrow-minded boss led me to the poster and tried to prove that Parnassius democratus was nothing more than a straightened Bramea Hr., etc. The training lasted about an hour. In the end, he gave up and sent me to the four corners. I sat in the car and couldn't move for a while, feeling that we hadn't parted like human beings. He didn't even take the money. Just spent my time and his own.
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26.01.2011 14:41, Bad Den

What do you think happened at the Russian customs office? Without three times – hemorrhoids. I was tired of explaining to them that I was not bringing Russian fauna, but Az., that I was not a speculator, but just a collector (there were no more than 100 insects available). After that, the narrow-minded boss led me to the poster and tried to prove that Parnassius democratus was nothing more than a straightened Bramea Hr., etc. The training lasted about an hour. In the end, he gave up and sent me to the four corners. I sat in the car and couldn't move for a while, feeling that we hadn't parted like human beings. He didn't even take the money. Just spent my time and his own.
Like that. Photos are attached.

Well, you can't drive all the time smile.gif

26.01.2011 19:24, Sergey Rybalkin

Dear friends, the question is, is there a difference in the lamps of domestic DRL (without a built-in starter) and DRV (with a built-in starter) in terms of the number of moths attracted? DRV is more convenient, because it is immediately screwed into the base and immediately into the socket. DRL requires a heavy starter. Do they have the same light spectrum, and which of the lamps is more catchy under the same conditions?

26.01.2011 21:01, okoem

Dear friends, the question is, is there a difference in the lamps of domestic DRL (without a built-in starter) and DRV (with a built-in starter) in terms of the number of moths attracted? DRV is more convenient, because it is immediately screwed into the base and immediately into the socket. DRL requires a heavy starter. Do they have the same light spectrum, and which of the lamps is more catchy under the same conditions?

This issue in the topic has already been discussed somewhere above. IMHO-DRL is better.
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26.01.2011 22:55, captolabrus

Again, rely on His Majesty's chance for departure . A good expedition will turn out if you arrest tools and equipment. And fly and catch as you want? This is very sad.

27.01.2011 1:34, mikee

The generator did not carry, but the throttle, a bunch of wires and DRL, including a chipped one, was carried around Russia repeatedly. Not once did anyone find fault, not at any of the airports. Abroad (in Bali), I dragged a powerful bactericidal lamp with me (instead of a drosel, ballast resistors are built into it), also without problems either in Domodedovo or in Indonesia. There were concerns, of course, because the lamps are naturally mercury-containing.
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29.01.2011 1:36, Black Coleopter

I came to the sad conclusion that light collection can only be carried out in places where there is access to electricity. Options with a generator are not serious, because when buying a generator, you also need to buy a car. And carry an extra 10 kg on yourself. (in the best case, and even all 25 kg.) the occupation is not pleasant enough. frown.gif

29.01.2011 1:49, Bad Den

Options with a generator are not serious, because when buying a generator, you also need to buy a car. And carry an extra 10 kg on yourself. (in the best case, and even all 25 kg.) the occupation is not pleasant enough. frown.gif

Why use a car? Just rent a motorbike.
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29.01.2011 8:40, captolabrus

But, traveling with the generator on your shoulders, you can strengthen your muscles, become more resilient and powerful! mad.gif lol.gif
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29.01.2011 9:38, okoem

I came to the sad conclusion that light collection can only be carried out in places where there is access to electricity.

Above in this topic, colleagues share their experience of fishing without a generator in places where there is no access to electricity. The generator, when fishing for light, is a very useful thing, but still not mandatory.

29.01.2011 9:58, Romyald

I came to the sad conclusion that light collection can only be carried out in places where there is access to electricity. Options with a generator are not serious, because when buying a generator, you also need to buy a car. And carry an extra 10 kg on yourself. (in the best case, and even all 25 kg.) the occupation is not pleasant enough. frown.gif




Who wants to, looks for ways, who doesn't want to, looks for reasons.
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29.01.2011 11:19, omar

I can confirm what Roman said-I caught many times without any car on my not the lightest Honda - at least 20 kg together with the throttle lamp-and the desire to catch did not disappear.
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29.01.2011 16:42, А.Й.Элез

... no less than 20 kg together with the throttle lamp-and the desire to catch did not disappear.
And because of the severity of the desire to catch usually disappears second redface.gif.

However, it is also important how far to carry it. What's easy on the near route is hard on the far one.

29.01.2011 23:05, Black Coleopter

I can confirm what Roman said-I caught many times without any car on my not the lightest Honda - no less than 20 kg together with the throttle lamp - and the desire to catch did not disappear.

Can I clarify where the fishing was? It was meant to transport the generator without a car for hundreds or thousands of km, not 20 km. from the reference post.

29.01.2011 23:07, Black Coleopter

But, traveling with the generator on your shoulders, you can strengthen your muscles, become more resilient and powerful! mad.gif  lol.gif

... or rip your back off, and consequently the whole trip you've been dreaming about for so long.

29.01.2011 23:11, Bad Den

... or rip your back off, and accordingly, the whole trip, which you've been dreaming about for so long.

Nyteg detected! tongue.gif smile.gif
Go to the gym, pull the barbell!!! smile.gif

30.01.2011 0:56, omar

for thousands of kilometers no one usually walks smile.gifeven without a generator
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03.02.2011 16:48, pmc7027

Dear colleagues! Please clarify this question: I found PHILIPS DRL-250 and DRV-250 lamps on sale. Moreover, the seller assured that the DRV is the same as the DRL, but it turns on without a throttle. Is it so? Is it possible to use this DRV0250 without a throttle for night fishing of insects? Do I need to prick her flask?
Thank you for your answers!

03.02.2011 16:58, Seneka

There were a lot of photos of energy-saving and other UV lamps in the topic.
They're almost all black.
I wonder if there are exactly the same ones, but transparent or white, so that the visible part of the spectrum is not cut off?

This post was edited by Seneka - 03.02.2011 16: 59

03.02.2011 17:03, Seneka

Topics on kerosene and gasoline lamps were quickly hushed up, although in light of recent reports of Impsec outrages, it seems to me that this is the most effective of the remaining methods, and also scalable.

Here, for example, if you buy two 250 watts each (a total of 500 watts), these are
http://www.camping.ru/index.php?id=1774&pid=3

if you spend 3300r+310r(5 liters of kerosene with a reserve),
then the total weight of the pair, together with kerosene = 8.8 kg
of This kerosene is enough for a day of burning, with refilling every 14 hours. Moreover, you can buy kerosene on the spot, or fill it with high-octane gasoline. Such a lamp should not be afraid of raindrops. Butterflies, of course, can scorch the wings and whiskers, but you can direct your mind to solving this problem.

The brightness adjustment wheel allows you to periodically change the brightness to attract butterflies that have not flown close enough.

Probably, at 500 watts, it doesn't matter if there is UV or not...
I remember catching 500 watts of incandescent light from a hotel window in Telavi, so I had to wear sunglasses, the light was blinding. Then everything flew at once and a lot, but not for long, because the local administration came running with frightened eyes and security guards and asked to turn it off.

This post was edited by Seneka - 03.02.2011 17: 49

03.02.2011 17:17, okoem

Moreover, the seller assured that the DRV is the same as the DRL, but it turns on without a throttle. Is it so? Is it possible to use this DRV0250 without a throttle for night fishing of insects? Do I need to prick her flask?

DRL and DRV are slightly different lamps.
You can catch on the DRV.
If you split the flask at the DRV, then it can only be discarded after that.
Try to read the topic, if memory serves me correctly, all your questions have already been discussed here. smile.gif

03.02.2011 21:05, Alexandr Zhakov

Topics on kerosene and gasoline lamps were quickly hushed up, although in light of recent reports of Impsec outrages, it seems to me that this is the most effective of the remaining methods, and also scalable.
Here, for example, if you buy two 250 watts each (a total of 500 watts), these are
http://www.camping.ru/index.php?id=1774&pid=3

This is already a completed stage. There was a time when the lamp "petromax" was the limit of dreams, it was talked about, but few people used it. At 96, I bought a Butterfly kerosene lamp (made in China), if memory serves, for 30 bucks.
The result is more than modest, although it can not be said that it is zero. I caught it in my area, in interesting places where there is no electricity. Carried in a backpack, although not heavy, but the volume is large. The main feature, caught only mikra, Bole large, almost never arrives. Very capricious, maybe the Chinese, it is not filled with that. I experimented with kerosene and gasoline of different brands. Hemorrhoids. It is necessary to pump up, bleed off excess pressure, clean the nozzle with a primus needle (thick minutiae, well replaced). After I lost half my hair and eyebrows, I threw it away (in a figurative sense). Later I switched to gas, but this is also self-indulgence. Just for nothing to do, because on all trips I take it with me for lighting (very compact and economical in weight), from time to time I try to catch it, but ... Only once in the Caucasus, in the highlands, there was a good summer, even scoops flew, but, unfortunately, there was no opportunity to catch. Any housekeeper with a battery gives you a big head start. A DRL by several orders of magnitude.
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08.02.2011 17:27, Seneka

I sit and invent a screen for fishing in the rain, so that it has a roof and is light. So that's the question that came up. Will the attractiveness of the fabric for planting butterflies differ when catching them in the light from different sides of the screen(i.e., the upper or lower side of the body to the light), if the screen is made of a gas grid, as for example in Viktor Sinyaev's Peruvian expedition? In general, how do they fly and land on a gas grid, compared to calico?

This post was edited by Seneka-08.02.2011 17: 31

14.02.2011 16:39, pmc7027

Does anyone have any experience in attracting insects (butterflies) to energy-saving cold light bulbs? They have, like, the spectrum should be shifted to the ultraviolet region, and insects do not burn, not to mention the economy....

14.02.2011 17:10, okoem

Does anyone have any experience in attracting insects (butterflies) to energy-saving cold light bulbs? They, like, the spectrum should be shifted to the ultraviolet region, and insects do not burn, not to mention the economy....

I caught once on a 35-watt neutral spectrum lamp. It was flying normally. But on the ultraviolet 25 Watts weakly flies (tried repeatedly).

14.02.2011 17:47, Alexandr Zhakov

Does anyone have any experience in attracting insects (butterflies) to energy-saving cold light bulbs? They, like, the spectrum should be shifted to the ultraviolet region, and insects do not burn, not to mention the economy....

They fly very well, we practice together with the DRL / DRV to include a black(UV) housekeeper. the number of butterflies on the part of the screen where the housekeeper is much higher. Set of black, white, yellow housekeepers powered by battery, sometimes work better than DRL.
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14.02.2011 23:16, barko

I always add a UV tube to the main lamp. Other types fly smile.gif

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15.02.2011 17:32, pmc7027

Maybe DRL is already outdated, and instead of them with the same effect, you can use energy-saving cold light lamps? Especially, it must be rational to use them when powered from an autonomous source - the power needed is minimal!

15.02.2011 17:34, pmc7027

They fly very well, we practice together with the DRL / DRV to include a black(UV) housekeeper. the number of butterflies on the part of the screen where the housekeeper is much higher. A set of black, white, and yellow battery-powered housekeepers sometimes work better than the DRL.

And what is a BLACK (UV) HOUSEKEEPER?

15.02.2011 17:50, Musson max

And I catch like this: simple DRL 250 + UV DRL 125 (black) smile.gif

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It flies very well smile.gif
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15.02.2011 19:11, barko

And I catch like this: a simple DRL 250 + UV DRL 125 (black) smile.gifFlies very well smile.gif
You have a beautiful screen, but too glamorous smile.gifAllow a little criticism. Still, the lamp should be located closer to the screen. With such a large distance, the butterflies will circle around it, and should land on the canvas. The lamps are mounted on a very high tripod, and how securely is it attached to the ground? The tripod supports take up a lot of space in front of the screen, which is not good. It is inconvenient to move around, you can catch and overturn it all on yourself. Non-hazardous construction. You can be careful and attentive for an hour, two, or several hours, but dodging the tripod all night is tiring smile.gif, and if you catch a row for several days, then fatigue comes and a complex design can cause an unpleasant incident. It is best to fasten the lamp on a tight cord. The ends of the cord are attached to the screen posts, and the middle is stretched with a separate alpenstock. the screen itself is too big. In a decent wind, the screen of this width will stretch and flutter a lot, and in a gusty wind it will not be possible to use it at all. Therefore, it can be reinforced with an additional stretch sewn directly onto the fabric. This will significantly reduce the mobility of the tissue. Well, an additional canvas should be spread out under the screen on both sides. A lot of butterflies fall down.

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15.02.2011 19:35, okoem

And what is a BLACK (UV) HOUSEKEEPER?

Energy-saving UV light bulb.
Mikhail, this topic has other pages. They might even be worth reading. tongue.gif
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17.03.2011 0:12, Romyald

Congratulations to my portable power plant on your successful return to base. Despite all my fears and prejudices, I was able to easily ride the generator in a backpack on the route: Moscow (Domodedovo)- Jakarta (Sekarna Hata) - Kalimantan, Balikpapan, East Timur (Sepingan) - South Sulawesi, Makassar (Sultan Hasanudin), and back. The issue only came up in Sekarnehat, but after a brief discussion, it was quickly settled. Thus, / Gena / made the first circumnavigation of the world.
For reliable and stable operation of the generator in areas of temporary dislocation, I tested energy-saving high-power lamps as an auxiliary light source, which reduced the load on the generator. The main lamp is 160 watts. (throttle-free) one piece and energy-saving, consuming 65 watts., giving out at the same time 300 watts. I rate the result as good. I plan to add another energy-saving lamp for interception on approach and additional lighting of the hunting area.
The generator rested once a night, with a fishing duration of 12 hours. According to the rules of operation, you need to give 15-minute breaks every four hours of operation. But, as I mentioned earlier, knowing the temper of the generator allows for exceptions, so at some points Lova / Gena / worked like a Stakhanovite. Fuel consumption – slightly less than 4 liters in 12 hours. I didn't top up the oil.
I think that the Nissamaran-600 generator rejected by forum participants will work no worse. At the same time, its weight and spatial parameters make it possible not to remove the casing, although I recommend doing this, since this allows quick access to the generator body for quick repair in case of an emergency breakdown.
My backpack weight (generator, screen, tent, mat, primus stove for cooking, repair kit, dishes, first aid kit, cellophane to protect the generator, Czech net with hoop and netting, wires with cartridges, 0.3 liters of oil for the generator, ammonia, related small things) in full combat readiness is 20.5 kg, this is on half a kilogram is more than the permissible norm for baggage weight and practically does not raise questions before boarding the ship. Problems can obviously arise when flying to hard-to-reach places on continents, using light aircraft (15 kg instead of the usual 20). But given the affluence of passengers transported, the majority of air carriers are forced to charge a meager fee for an extra kilogram (for example, the cost of a passenger's flight with luggage ( 20 kg) and hand luggage(7 kg) from Kalimantan to Sulawesi is $ 50, the flight distance is slightly less than 1000 km).
First photo: Dress rehearsal of the screen before departure, next: combat complex in anticipation of the night assault on Kalimantan near Bontang near Kutai National Park, next: complex in central Sulawesi, Rantepao-Palopo Pass, half an hour before dawn, temporary truce, trophy counting.

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13.04.2011 8:40, Pliss A

Hello! Tell me, please, whether there are any special stretch cloths for catching on light and where they can be purchased?

13.04.2011 8:45, Pliss A

These are the ones shown above in the photos.

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