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08.06.2011 1:30, Maksim M.

Well, I agree about skin cancer and eye damage, but with TB, the risk is lower than with sunbathing. But about "not worth eng created" - imho, bent finally smile.gif

Only 13 words of microflora,but if there is a risk, then it must be justified by something,I often go with my wife and child, use savings banks and uv.

08.06.2011 6:41, Sergey Didenko

All savings with a start-up device, soft start-up.The stab drl is extremely dangerous when the catching character is outside the shelter,and the young UV does not lose its killing effect at short distances.With dew-fogs in June in the middle zone, the powerful UV source will not be visible to animals from afar,and many will also not reach the dew.Imho it is necessary to catch locally, without exposing yourself to antimony danger, the results of radiation exposure will not affect immediately, but after some time.For example-someone has cancer, another doesn't have an eng created, and so on...


Yes, I read it and was horrified. Judging by what I've written:
- in June, nothing flies at all, because my split drlka does not break through the dew;
- cancer is already guaranteed for me (it is not clear how soon);
- and so on.
Maxim, I would like to give you some advice - do not write about what you know poorly, do not have personal experience, and so on. Judging by your definitions of caught platitudes, you have recently become interested in butterflies, and you are already giving such "detailed" advice.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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08.06.2011 6:48, captolabrus

Sergey, welcome! Why do you think it doesn't fly well? The fishing grounds were different.

08.06.2011 9:57, Bad Den

Only 13 words of microflora,but if there is a risk, then it must be justified by something,I often go with my wife and child, use savings banks and uv.

The risk must naturally be justified. In this topic, it has already been written more than once what precautions to take when using a pricked DRL. I personally suffered 2 times (and both times because I was my own evil pinocchio, I ignored these measures) - the very first time catching on a stab DRL and one more time when I forgot to put on protective glasses (caught a "bunny").

08.06.2011 10:23, Sergey Didenko

Sergey, welcome! Why do you think it doesn't fly well? The fishing grounds were different.

It's hard to say for sure. There may be several reasons.
First , I noticed that in the middle zone at the turn of mid-May - mid-June, there is a gap of 10 days when it doesn't fly well, despite all the favorable circumstances.
The second is a fishing spot, preferably shining either on clearings/power lines/forest roads, or on the forest-steppe/field border, or on the river bank; choosing dominant high-rises if possible. Depending on what you want to catch, you need to choose the appropriate natural landscape.
The third is the time of fishing, which should be turned on at dusk (now around 22.30) and it is better to catch before three in the morning (of course, this does not always work, but you need to strive, because some species prefer deep night, for example, some crested bears - after one o'clock, some bears are generally closer to three). It helps to turn off the lamp for a short time (say once every 1.5-2 hours).
The fourth is a method of fishing, ideally two lamps - a split one at a height of 4 meters above the screen and a non-split drl (250 watts) directly above the screen. At the bottom of the screen, of course, you also need to lay a sheet. DRLki is better than Phillips, in extreme cases osram, ours is much worse.
Fifth - the weather, nothing can be done here, but it is advisable to choose the nights either cloudy, with a little rain, or without a moon. In summer, at night temperatures below 10 degrees, it almost always flies poorly, and beetles generally want more than plus 15.
The sixth is luck, without which there is nothing to catch in any business. If the first five points are met, the chances of success increase.

These are all, of course, common truths, various nuances will come with experience. Experience is generally the main thing in almost any activity. smile.gif

This post was edited on sdi-08.06.2011 10: 28
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08.06.2011 10:41, Maksim M.

Yes, I read it and was horrified. Judging by what I've written:
- in June, nothing flies at all, because my split drlka does not break through the dew;
- cancer is already guaranteed for me (it is not clear how soon);
- and so on.
Maxim, I would like to give you some advice - do not write about what you know poorly, do not have personal experience, and so on. Judging by your definitions of caught platitudes, you have recently become interested in butterflies, and you are already giving such "detailed" advice.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Yes, I'm new,but I don't remember Latin opr. by heart,but I'm interested in this lesson.According to my observations, the approach distance depends on the speed.light source,115W hol.white and 4 pcs of 26W UV provide? approach 500-1000 meters, split drl-2000-5000m when located in high places,for example, steppe-hills.When there is no wind and the formation of dew and fog, the approach length decreases especially at long distances due to the thermal layers of air that work as light guides-this is my opinion.PS I DON'T FEED CHICKENS WITH BUCKETS OF B-BANALS.

08.06.2011 10:47, Bad Den

If the layers of air work as light guides, they should, on the contrary, conduct light much further - as light guides should. Most likely, insects are generally reluctant to fly in the dew.

08.06.2011 11:32, Maksim M.

If the layers of air work as light guides, they should, on the contrary, conduct light much further - as light guides should. Most likely, insects are generally reluctant to fly in the dew.

Thermal layers have different temperatures,the mirage effect in the desert is an example,that is, the vision is distorted in a straight line, according to the logic of an animal from one place.east doesn't see the layer.sveta na bol.distances to a different layer.On smaller distances. this negative effect is reduced.And escho about b-banals in N-ZEALAND, they are not banals.

08.06.2011 18:42, Sergey Didenko

About various thermal layers, mirages, dew and the deterioration of the visibility of light by butterflies-honestly, it reads like a joke, I laughed for a long time, thank you! Or maybe everything is much simpler? In what case is dew formed have you tried to ask?
More numbers in meters, where the butterflies come from-did they really measure it? I don't know how, for example.
Come on, what are we all arguing, it's better to go to the fields and catch, catch, catch. Nikitsky, for example, makes three or four trips a week. True, this is his work, and we, fortunately, have this hobby.
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08.06.2011 21:28, captolabrus

I apologize for the question that has filled my teeth, I want to organize the information. 1 - I didn't find a 250-watt UFO, do they even exist, and where? ( in Google and Yandex, I did not find flasks of such power) 2 - on the UFD, there are few or not very watt batteries ( meaning up to 30 watts, these are exactly what is available in stores) 3-If you break the flask from the DRL, I understand that no other UFOs will be needed? 4-Alternation of two lamps of different power, as a fishing option, with a broken bulb, they also disappear, or does it make sense to break two different powers and alternate, including alternately ? And finally, how realistic is it to provoke something oncological using a split 250-watt drl? Please keep in mind that for frequent "in the ideal case" does not work. Therefore we proceed from the average realistic shuffle.gif confused.gif

08.06.2011 23:19, Bad Den

I apologize for the question that has filled my teeth, I want to organize the information. 1 - I didn't find a 250-watt UFO, do they even exist, and where? ( in Google and Yandex, I did not find flasks of such power) 2 - on the UFD, there are few or not very watt batteries ( meaning up to 30 watts, these are exactly what is available in stores) 3-If you break the flask from the DRL, I understand that no other UFOs will be needed? 4-Alternation of two lamps of different power, as a fishing option, with a broken bulb, they also disappear, or does it make sense to break two different powers and alternate, including alternately ? And finally, how realistic is it to provoke something oncological using a split 250-watt drl? Please keep in mind that for frequent "in the ideal case" does not work. Therefore, we proceed from the average realistic shuffle.gif  confused.gif

It makes sense to turn on lamps of different power, you can have one pricked, one non-pricked.
Cancer you can earn skin cancer, but I think that applying a thick layer of sunscreen with a degree of protection of 40 or more will reduce this probability to a minimum level.
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10.06.2011 7:58, che

Dear friends, can you tell me what is the difference between open PRA 1I and closed PRA 1I?

10.06.2011 11:55, Bad Den

Closed ones are not afraid of moisture, so they can be used outdoors in the open air.
The open ones have all the electrical filling uncovered, as a result-they don't really like humidity.

25.06.2011 21:24, Peter Khramov

Location: middle zone of the Russian Federation. Well, for example, a radius of 700 km from Moscow.
Time: May-September. Mostly July / August.
Can someone briefly describe at what hours (or relative to sunset) in general, representatives of which taxa are caught immediately after sunset, which later, which before dawn, etc.?

In general, I don't need it for fishing, but for photos, but I think it's the same.

P. S. I already asked here, but if anyone still came across a decent text about how to shoot butterflies in collections, please also send a pliz...

27.06.2011 18:22, mikee

Location: middle zone of the Russian Federation. Well, for example, a radius of 700 km from Moscow.
Time: May-September. Mostly July / August.
Can someone briefly describe at what hours (or relative to sunset) in general, representatives of which taxa are caught immediately after sunset, which later, which before dawn, etc.?

In general, I don't need it for fishing, but for photos, but I think it's the same.

P. S. I already asked here, but if anyone still came across a decent text about how to shoot butterflies in collections, please also send a pliz...

In short, it won't work. Reasons: the time of summer of certain species strongly depends not only on the time of day, but also on weather conditions (temperature, wind, rain, fog, the presence of the moon, etc.), as well as on the chosen fishing location (in the forest, darkness comes earlier than in the field). It is desirable to catch from dusk to dawn, different types of butterflies fly at different times. In many species, males and females do the same. Look up the calendar time of different types of summer in the determinants, making adjustments for your region. Search for the approximate time of summer during the night on the local topic "Fishing reports".
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02.07.2011 15:17, metall-mikki

Good afternoon, forumchane!
I reviewed the message of this thread - it seems like there was no similar question/answer on the next one:someone used portable lanterns of a similar plan
http://www.ukrtexzbut.com.ua/index.php?pag...&id=5&tovar=9_4
for catching butterflies in the wild?...how effective are they,how long can they last until the next charge,and which ones are more preferable for attracting butterflies:daylight, LED or halogen?

06.07.2011 14:17, ReAlex

I have the opportunity to go to pasika at midnight and I would like to know if I have a chance to catch Acherontia atropos there? from the equipment there is a DRL 250 and a UV lamp for 18 W

06.07.2011 14:43, Aaata

I have the opportunity to go to pasika at midnight and I would like to know if I have a chance to catch Acherontia atropos there? from the equipment there is a DRL 250 and a UV lamp for 18 W

Now the chances are slim. Except for the number of migrants, but they are rarely numerous. And the condition after long flights, as a rule, wants the best... Their more numerous offspring usually appear somewhere in August-October.

06.07.2011 23:31, metall-mikki

Forumchane, unsubscribe, please!
I simplify the question)...who used what portable flashlight:daylight,LED or halogen?

07.07.2011 0:21, ReAlex

07.07.2011 1:31, Aaata

OK, and in August-October, if you go, will they even fly to the light? and also: will the native inhabitants of the apiary come to light?

If there are butterflies in principle, then there will be, why not. Native inhabitants? Beekeepers or something? Yes, they will definitely fly together, they can even kick their ears.. smile.gif If you are talking about bees, they are quieter, if of course the hive is not opened and not shone at point-blank range… And why even go to the apiary? Not all individuals of Acherontia atropos are "marked" there. It is more logical to catch near the main places of brood, i.e. near potato fields, preferably untreated with any chemicals. By the way, now on the tops of potatoes (etc. forage plants) you can find its caterpillars.
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07.07.2011 10:57, ReAlex

I thought about the apiary because my friends told me that dead heads quite often fly there, although, of course, they are such experts that butterflies can't tell the difference from a beetle, but still...
I meant bees smile.gif

07.07.2011 21:11, captolabrus

I thought about the apiary because my friends told me that dead heads quite often fly there, although, of course, they are such experts that butterflies can't tell the difference from a beetle, but still...
I meant the bees smile.gif

Caught on DRL not far from pasiki, apis melifera were quite frequent guests. They climbed tirelessly across the screen, working with their wings, to the light source. Although the beehives were lower than the fishing area and of course I did not shine a lantern in them after removing the lid.

07.07.2011 22:28, Aaata

Caught on DRL not far from pasiki, apis melifera were quite frequent guests. They climbed tirelessly across the screen, working with their wings, to the light source. Although the beehives were lower than the fishing area and of course I did not shine a lantern in them after removing the lid.

Maybe the bees are wrong? smile.gif

Seriously, bees are flying, of course, but without signs of aggression and not in enough numbers to smoke out a trophy-hungry catcher.

08.07.2011 0:12, ReAlex

08.07.2011 21:14, captolabrus

They flew-eye-shaped, medium and small wine. Acherontia Atropos was not there. And the bees didn't pay attention to me, their persistence was focused on overcoming the screen on the way to the lamp. They buzzed and fell and climbed up to the lamp again, and so on until dawn, and before that I was overwhelmed by crowds of peppermint bears or whatever they were(spilos , yellow and white), and by morning I fell into a deep sleep, and lay breathless until the bloody harbingers of night turned the screen into the rich colors of sunset for catching curious summer residents, Ha, Ha, Ha! lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif beer.gif beer.gif beer.gif In general, don't even worry about the bees.

12.07.2011 13:40, ReAlex

=)))))))) ok, thank you

12.07.2011 20:33, okoem

Their more numerous offspring usually appear somewhere in August-October.
In the Crimea on June 30, local brood was recorded.

12.07.2011 21:48, Aaata

In the Crimea on June 30, local brood was recorded.

then in the Crimea..

27.07.2011 4:03, sebastes

Please respond to those who use the Elemax 1000 generator. For almost 5 years of careful operation, sometimes some kind of protection began to work and the overload indicator lit up (the oil level is normal, the replacement is according to the regulations, the spark plug is new, the air filter is washed and dried). The latest incident occurred last night in a clearing in a primary forest in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, where I barely made my way through the mud in a Jeep. It's a shame to tears!
But the entire load is a single 250W DRL lamp!
There is no authorized service in Vladivostok. The user manual does not provide a response. Thank you in advance.

27.07.2011 7:50, Bad Den

Please respond to those who use the Elemax 1000 generator. For almost 5 years of careful operation, sometimes some kind of protection began to work and the overload indicator lit up (the oil level is normal, the replacement is according to the regulations, the spark plug is new, the air filter is washed and dried). The latest incident occurred last night in a clearing in a primary forest in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, where I barely made my way through the mud in a Jeep. It's a shame to tears!
But the entire load is a single 250W DRL lamp!
There is no authorized service in Vladivostok. The user manual does not provide a response. Thank you in advance.

My IMHO - since it has a Honda engine, it can be viewed in the Honda service

27.07.2011 8:24, svm2

I had a case last year in Volhynia, the Kirog kilowatt generator, the load is the same. The air is very humid, with dew. While I was standing on the ground-I didn't work,the overload was lit up, I put it on a high chair - work started. This may be the same reason for you.
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28.07.2011 5:40, Konung

My IMHO - since it has a Honda engine, it can be viewed in the Honda service

I think it's not about the engine, but about the electronics unit (usually Chinese). So if the method described by svm2 doesn't help, you will have to change the electronics. as practice has shown, it is easier to change the generator than the electronics in it.

23.08.2011 20:35, niyaz

I want this weekend for the first time to try to catch the light in the country. In the bins I found such a lamp.
P8230170.JPG
I think that it is serviceable. This raised some questions. Tell me how many watts is it? is it possible to prick the bulb of such a lamp? what kind of throttle is needed for it and how to connect the throttle to the lamp?

23.08.2011 21:00, MIV

I want this weekend for the first time to try to catch the light in the country. In the bins I found such a lamp.

I think that it is serviceable. This raised some questions. Tell me how many watts is it? is it possible to prick the bulb of such a lamp? what kind of throttle is needed for it and how to connect the throttle to the lamp?

Did you go to school?

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23.08.2011 21:00, vasiliy-feoktistov

Soviet-style incandescent searchlight lamp with a power of 500 or 1000 watts: what, the power is not specified? You can't prick it. It doesn't need a throttle.
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23.08.2011 21:07, niyaz

Did you go to school?

Unfortunately, physics was an unloved subject. I leaned more heavily on biology and geography.

23.08.2011 21:12, niyaz

vasiliy-feoktistov, no, there are no inscriptions. Thanks for the reply. How is it suitable for attracting insects or not?

Here is another such lamp, smaller in size, it shows a power of 250 watts. Questions about it are the same.
P8230169.JPG

23.08.2011 21:29, vasiliy-feoktistov

vasiliy-feoktistov, no, there are no inscriptions. Thanks for the reply. How is it suitable for attracting insects or not?

Here is another such lamp, smaller in size, it shows a power of 250 watts. The questions about it are the same.

DRL 250: you can prick, you need a throttle. It is best used for fishing.

23.08.2011 21:39, niyaz

DRL 250: you can prick, you need a throttle. It is best used for fishing.


And what kind of throttle is suitable? Throttle UBI 20 and Throttle UBI 40 are available for sale on the website of one of the stores in Kazan http://gerts-kazan.ru/
Are these chokes suitable?

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