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23.08.2011 21:43, vasiliy-feoktistov

And what kind of throttle is suitable? Throttle UBI 20 and Throttle UBI 40 are available for sale on the website of one of the stores in Kazan http://gerts-kazan.ru/
Are these chokes suitable?

Here Yandex to help you.

23.08.2011 22:15, mikee

And what kind of throttle is suitable? Throttle UBI 20 and Throttle UBI 40 are available for sale on the website of one of the stores in Kazan http://gerts-kazan.ru/
Are these chokes suitable?

In the name of the throttle, the numbers indicate the power, i.e. 20 and 40 W, respectively. They DON'T fit the above lamp. Search with the designation 250 (UBI, PRA,...). And check that if the lamp says "DRL", the throttle is not needed for DRV, the DNAT does not attract butterflies.

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24.08.2011 12:40, niyaz

I found DRL lamps for sale in my city with a built-in Philips ML and OSRAM HWL choke for 250 and 500 watts. Which one should I take? is there a difference in terms of attracting insects?

24.08.2011 12:42, Bad Den

I found DRL lamps for sale in my city with a built-in Philips ML and OSRAM HWL choke for 250 and 500 watts. Which one should I take? is there a difference in terms of attracting insects?

This is DRV, not DRL. You can take it. 500 makes no sense to use, the light spot is too large.

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28.08.2011 16:58, veps

maybe someone will help...how to increase the flicker frequency of old drl and ld lamps (if at all possible) without (relatively of course ) embedding

28.08.2011 17:17, vasiliy-feoktistov

maybe someone will help...how to increase the flicker frequency of old drl and ld lamps (if at all possible) without (relatively of course ) investment

Probably with electronic ballast instead of a throttle: if there are such options for the DRL.

07.09.2011 21:04, Alexander73

Dear forumchane! Has anyone noticed that the 365 nm stated by Gornostaev ( in the article discussed above) as the most attractive part of the spectrum for insects, this is the spectrum of Blacklight lamps, which shine (at least to the human eye) rather sparsely?

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07.09.2011 21:18, vasiliy-feoktistov

Dear forumchane! Has anyone noticed that the 365 nm stated by Gornostaev ( in the article discussed above) as the most attractive part of the spectrum for insects, this is the spectrum of Blacklight lamps, which shine (at least to the human eye) rather sparsely?

Why read it? There is nothing better than DRL in this regard....
I have two of these energy-saving lights on my balcony all the time (the city and there is no way to turn on the normal one). Impression: the look on them is very shitty.
Such:

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07.09.2011 22:03, Alexander73

that is, an alternative comparable to (stabbing?) No DRL?

Do all those who catch the light have cars/ carry batteries /generators on themselves?

07.09.2011 22:05, Alexander73

...meant at exits outside apartments, dachas, etc.

07.09.2011 22:09, niyaz

as the most attractive part of the spectrum for insects, this is the spectrum of Blacklight lamps, which shine (at least to the human eye) rather sparsely?

I paid attention in the store to black light ultraviolet lamps at 18 and 36 watts. But the prices of 600 and 800 rubles, respectively, scared me off a little.

07.09.2011 22:24, niyaz

But if you hang a 250-watt DRV lamp next to a regular 15-watt UV lamp, will it affect the attraction of insects or will there be no difference?

07.09.2011 23:40, Bad Den

that is, an alternative comparable to (stabbing?) No DRL?
Do all those who catch the light have cars/ carry batteries /generators on themselves?

Entomology is a rather expensive hobby

07.09.2011 23:42, Bad Den

But if you hang a 250-watt DRV lamp next to a regular 15-watt UV lamp, will it affect the attraction of insects or will there be no difference?

I don't think there will be much difference, maybe a little more than five years.
But I am an adept of pricked DRL, it is better not to have it

As the option repeatedly voiced here (and one of the most successful) is the alternate inclusion of DRL-250 and DRL-125.

07.09.2011 23:44, Bad Den

...this was meant for trips outside apartments, dachas, etc.

If you go completely into the wilderness, where there are no other light sources, then a simple UV trbka will go "with a bang", it can be powered by a battery weighing about 3 kg.

08.09.2011 0:23, Alexander73

If you go completely into the wilderness, where there are no other light sources, then a simple UV trbka will go "with a bang", it can be powered by a battery weighing about 3 kg.

Can I tell you more? What is meant by "simple UV tube"?

08.09.2011 6:03, vasiliy-feoktistov

Can I tell you more? What is meant by "simple UV tube"?

Type this. Analogs of conventional tubes only without phosphor and they fit in ordinary lamps.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 08.09.2011 06: 39

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08.09.2011 22:10, Sergey Rybalkin

In Primorye, we were caught on an incandescent lamp of 300 W, it was impossible to approach the lamp, the butterflies "knocked us down". It all depends on the fishing location. There even DRL was not really needed, I did not have time to starve and prick...

20.09.2011 22:04, niyaz

Until what days and months of autumn does it make sense to catch butterflies in the light in central Russia? Not lower than how many degrees should the air temperature be?

20.09.2011 23:14, Maksim M.

You include and catch, then in the fishing report with a report,something always flies, respectively, it is caught, most likely there will not be any May ones.Joke.Yasegodny drove home from Moscow, in the headlights of medium-sized butterflies in 22-30 approximately flew more than once, tomorrow I'll go polovlyu until 23-00, I'll see who flew it.

20.09.2011 23:29, niyaz

So I catch in the village at the dacha, and it is 60 km to cut. And the weather is not important right now - 10 degrees during the day and 5 degrees at night, so I don't think it's advisable to go fishing in this weather. That's why I ask experienced people, up to what numbers does it make sense to "wait for good weather by the sea"?

21.09.2011 7:48, Maksim M.

In my experience, if it is below 10C, then the temperature weakens strongly,in June 2011, at night T fell from 17c to 7-9c, those who flew up-some sat on the grass and bushes, others crawled through obstacles to the screen as best they could, but someone has to fly, because many animals have the processes are not finished. Or wait for the weather to improve-at night-10-13c.

22.09.2011 2:45, Ekos

Why read it? There is nothing better than DRL in this regard....
I have two of these energy-saving lights on my balcony all the time (the city and there is no way to turn on the normal one). Impression: the look on them is very shitty.
Such:

In my experience (and not only), the demand for this particular energy saving device is very decent, comparable to the DRV 160 W and powerful daylight saving devices.

22.09.2011 5:44, vasiliy-feoktistov

In my experience (and not only), the demand for this particular energy saving device is very decent, comparable to the DRV 160 W and powerful daylight saving devices.

Apparently it depends on the conditions. For me, it loses a lot compared to the DRL: I catch them in the center of a city of 130 thousand people and there are plenty of extraneous sources all around. Apparently you have a different approach.

22.09.2011 15:24, Ekos

Apparently it depends on the conditions. For me, it loses a lot compared to the DRL: I catch them in the center of a city of 130 thousand people and there are plenty of extraneous sources all around. Apparently you have a different approach.

Yes, most likely the conditions are different. I catch it in a remote taiga (powered by a battery), where there are no more light sources. In the same conditions, I tested the DRV-160 several times. The result was almost identical. Moreover, some groups (for example, hawkmoth) on UV 26 W clearly fly better than on DRV. Friends use the same UV energy saver as the basis for light traps - the reviews are only positive.

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22.09.2011 16:44, kovyl

So I catch in the village at the dacha, and it is 60 km to cut. And the weather is not important right now - 10 degrees during the day and 5 degrees at night, so I don't think it's advisable to go fishing in this weather. That's why I ask experienced people, up to what numbers does it make sense to "wait for good weather by the sea"?

I repeatedly caught in the fall in October at +3...+5, even a snowball sometimes broke - it still flies.

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22.09.2011 21:03, Alexander73

Moscow, Southern Administrative District, 3rd floor balcony, September 22, 21: 40, t ~ 16 C',
DRL-125 (uncollected) -
Catocala nupta

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26.09.2011 0:08, scar

Bought the same generator NISSAMARAN IG-600. The disadvantages (so far) are as follows. First, I waited an extra six months for it (I ordered it to be delivered by APRIL!). Further, the oil flows mercilessly (while he drove from Moscow - all the oil flowed out, and on moving-every day I had to top up). Gasoline consumption is inadequate to the stated one - instead of the 5.5 hours of operation promised by the manufacturer on one tank, it worked a maximum of 2.5. I don't know if this is the morphology/physiology of my instance, or the intraspecific specifics of this brand of generators. And so nothing.
By the way, has anyone tried to use an incandescent lamp instead of a throttle for the DRL?

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26.09.2011 17:47, Alexandr Zhakov

Gasoline consumption is inadequate to the stated one - instead of the 5.5 hours of operation promised by the manufacturer on one tank, a maximum of 2.5 worked.

Very strange. The manufacturer declares the flow rate for the rated power, i.e. maximum. In reality, it almost always turns out less, and the generator, accordingly, works much longer ( on average, for 1-2. 5 hours). This is by Kipor 1000 and Kipor 1300.

26.09.2011 21:30, introvert

By the way, has anyone tried to use an incandescent lamp instead of a throttle for the DRL?

I tried the spiral from el tile-it works perfectly.

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27.09.2011 12:02, mikee

By the way, has anyone tried to use an incandescent lamp instead of a throttle for the DRL?

It was in this topic - sdi and I turned on the DRL-250 through a regular 500 W incandescent lamp, it works and is light

. I have an industrial-made bactericidal lamp that uses two special lamps with a nichrome spiral (like an electric stove) inside as ballast (instead of a throttle). So, the answer is yes.

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27.09.2011 12:24, niyaz

sdi and I turned on the DRL-250 through a regular 500 W incandescent lamp, it works and is light.

And what is the connection diagram?

27.09.2011 12:35, vasiliy-feoktistov

And what is the connection diagram?

Definitely SERIAL CONNECTION!!!
And nothing else

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27.09.2011 21:25, mikee

Definitely SERIAL CONNECTION!!!
And nothing else

Truly so!

29.09.2011 15:08, niyaz

Did I connect correctly or not?
On the left is a cartridge for the DRL lamp, on the right for incandescent light.

29.09.2011 15:31, Alexandr Zhakov

Did I connect correctly or not?
On the left is a cartridge for the DRL lamp, on the right for incandescent light.

This is a parallel connection.
Bangs.

The incandescent lamp holder must be attached only to one of the two wires leading to the DRL.

29.09.2011 15:40, Alexandr Zhakov

I also used a spiral from the electric tile in the field version. In the carrier, one core is cut on it, on a short wire, and a socket is placed. in the outlet, if you want to turn on the DRL, a carrier with an incandescent lamp or a spiral is inserted. in other cases, if you insert a closed plug into the outlet, you can screw in incandescent lamps, housekeepers and DRV.

29.09.2011 15:45, vasiliy-feoktistov

Well look at how the switch at home at the chandelier is turned on: so turn on (instead of the incandescent switch) in the gap!!! After all, this is elementary school physics (electrical engineering)! It's a shame not to know!

29.09.2011 15:57, niyaz

I understand that you need to pull the blue wire of a short cable out of the socket of the incandescent lamp holder? And where should I put it? Leave something hanging in the air?

29.09.2011 16:00, Alexandr Zhakov

It's a shame not to know!

It's your fault

, Vasily, and you gave us a direct current circuit as an example,

Definitely SERIAL CONNECTION!!!
And nothing else

so the young man followed the advice.

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