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29.09.2011 16:06, Alexandr Zhakov

I understand that you need to pull the blue wire of a short cable out of the socket of the incandescent lamp holder? And where should I put it? Leave something hanging in the air?

No. From what is already there, it is reworked as follows: Unscrew the cartridge with short wires (for an incandescent lamp) from the second cartridge. Then one wire from the cartridge with DRL, fasten the recoil from 1 cartridge to this wire, and connect the second wire to the free connector of the DRL cartridge.
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29.09.2011 16:27, vasiliy-feoktistov

It's your faultlol.gif  lol.gif  lol.gif, Vasily, and you gave us a direct current circuit as an example,

so the young man followed the advice.
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Duc outlet there is not drawn instead of batterieswall.gif, not my fault, however smile.gif
Vo, now I drew it in a hurry:

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29.09.2011 16:32, Alexandr Zhakov

The wires are double stranded lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif
and where is the fork confused.gif
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29.09.2011 16:35, vasiliy-feoktistov

The wires are double stranded lol.gif  lol.gif  lol.gif
and where is the plug confused.gif
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Not wires, but a double-core cable. Holes in the socket are known to be two in most cases (220V single-phase) so I drew the veins.
The basic scheme: there is no time to draw a fork smile.gif

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 29.09.2011 16: 38
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29.09.2011 16:42, Alexandr Zhakov

I agree with this comment.
The scheme is clear to electricians.
The average person is shocked.

29.09.2011 16:49, mikee

I agree with this comment.
The scheme is clear to electricians.
The average person is shocked.

It will all end badly if you two kill a man...
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29.09.2011 16:50, vasiliy-feoktistov

I agree with this comment.
The scheme is clear to electricians.
The average person is shocked.

Well, as I got used to and drew: a little bit of an electrician in the world and there is. shuffle.gif

29.09.2011 16:54, vasiliy-feoktistov

It will all end badly if you two kill a man...

No, we won't kill you: my first acquaintance was in the first grade, when I plugged the light bulb from the flashlight into the socket - it hit me and I thought. Life teaches smile.gif

29.09.2011 16:58, mikee

No, we won't kill you: my first acquaintance was in the first grade, when I plugged the light bulb from the flashlight into the socket - it hit me and I thought. Life teaches smile.gif

Those who are still alive wink.gif

29.09.2011 18:56, niyaz

Right now?
What should be the power of an incandescent lamp for drl?
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29.09.2011 19:26, vasiliy-feoktistov

Correctlyyes.gif. For DRL 250, you need 500watt: if I'm not mistaken (there was no need to try).
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29.09.2011 19:35, Alexandr Zhakov

Right now?
What should be the power of an incandescent lamp for drl?

so it is possible, the lamp is not ispozval do not know.

29.09.2011 21:41, mikee

Correctlyyes.gif. For DRL 250, you need 500watt: if I'm not mistaken (there was no need to try).

DRL-250 along with 500-watt lights. I didn't have a chance to check, but I think that 250-300 watts will be enough. It's a bit scary to look at 500-ku when you turn it on, because the tungsten evaporates before your eyes. The DRL-ki ignites gradually, more slowly, and more smoothly than with a throttle.
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01.10.2011 11:51, Alexander73

The question is mainly for Muscovites - has anyone compared Osram DRL, Philips "native" (German and Dutch production, respectively) with those produced in P. R. C (simply put - in the People's Republic of China)))?
And if the comparison is clearly in favor of the first, then where did you buy it?

04.10.2011 11:24, niyaz

Last weekend, we had the opportunity to test a Russian-made split DRL (Saratov) and a 250-watt OSRAM solid DRV. Caught 2 nights. My first impression was that it flew better on OSRAM. But of course, for more representative and well-founded data, it is necessary to catch at least a month and write down all the arrival data in a notebook.

04.10.2011 12:07, botanque

They also fly to Hitachi smile.gif
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04.10.2011 12:58, Alexander73

The question is mainly for Muscovites - has anyone compared Osram DRL, Philips "native" (German and Dutch production, respectively) with those produced in P. R. C (simply put - in the People's Republic of China)))?
And if the comparison is clearly in favor of the first, then where did you buy it?


As I understand it-no one "bothers" over such trifles as the place of production of the used "Osram" and "Philips" - DRL is it also DRL in China?! wink.gif
In any case - all successful fishing (catch by the tail the end of the season!)

04.10.2011 13:46, mikee

As I understand it-no one "bothers" over such trifles as the place of production of the used "Osram" and "Philips" - DRL is it also DRL in China?! wink.gif
In any case - all successful fishing (catch by the tail the end of the season!)

Recently, even just buying DRL has become a problem, so the origin of imported analogues somehow passes by interest.

04.10.2011 15:30, Alexander73

Recently, even just buying DRL has become a problem, so the origin of imported analogues somehow passes by interest.

eek.gif That is, how? Is it problematic in the construction markets? Maybe then you should buy for the future? You scared me...
P.S. Maybe this has something to do with the general line on saving electricity, and soon you won't be able to buy anything at all except "energy saving"? confused.gif

04.10.2011 16:34, mikee

  eek.gif That is, how? Is it problematic in the construction markets? Maybe then you should buy for the future? You scared me...
P.S. Maybe this has something to do with the general line on saving electricity, and soon you won't be able to buy anything at all except "energy saving"? confused.gif

Before the congress, I was looking for a Phillips lamp at three (!) construction markets. With great difficulty, I found only OSRAM, even there were no domestic ones. There are only energy-saving devices around, and with a power of up to 100 watts (the equivalent of a normal 500).

04.10.2011 16:37, Bad Den

Before the congress, I was looking for a Phillips lamp at three (!) construction markets. With great difficulty, I found only OSRAM, even there were no domestic ones. There are only energy-saving devices around, and with a power of up to 100 watts (the equivalent of a normal 500).

Please, it's time to buy a pair of DRL-250 cars smile.gif

04.10.2011 16:42, mikee

Please, it's time to buy a couple of DRL-250 cars smile.gif

... and chokes to them smile.gif

04.10.2011 16:46, Bad Den

instead of chokes, there will be ordinary light bulbs, they will not work yet smile.gif

04.10.2011 17:08, mikee

instead of chokes, there will be ordinary light bulbs, they are not available yet smile.gif

But what about "Federal Law of the Russian Federation No. 261-FZ of November 23, 2009 "On Energy Saving and Energy Efficiency Improvement and on Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation"?
Since 2014, incandescent lamps more powerful than 100 W are prohibited...
So, you also need to stock up on ordinary lamps lol.gif

04.10.2011 17:39, kovyl

Last weekend, we had the opportunity to test a Russian-made split DRL (Saratov) and a 250-watt OSRAM solid DRV. Caught 2 nights. My first impression was that it flew better on OSRAM. But of course, for more representative and well-founded data, it is necessary to catch at least a month and write down all the arrival data in a notebook.

Oh, representativeness is one of my favorite topics! Why exactly within a month?
Not necessarily in notepad.

04.10.2011 18:17, niyaz

Oh, representativeness is one of my favorite topics! Why exactly within a month?
Not necessarily in notepad.


Not exactly within a month, but at least a month, and best of all within a year. 30 days out of 365 (minus the winter months when nothing flies) - I think the sample is representative.

This post was edited by niyaz - 04.10.2011 18: 19

04.10.2011 19:01, Bad Den

But what about "Federal Law of the Russian Federation No. 261-FZ of November 23, 2009 "On Energy Saving and Energy Efficiency Improvement and on Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation"?
Since 2014, incandescent lamps more powerful than 100 W are prohibited...
So, you also need to stock up on ordinary lamps lol.gif

Yes shozh such is happening then!! smile.gif

04.10.2011 19:10, captolabrus

The apocalypse! lol.gif

04.10.2011 19:11, Alexander73

Eh! Unsweetened, however, the prospect is drawn...
Maybe - " names-passwords-turnouts..."?))))

04.10.2011 19:16, Alexander73

And by the way, who has been in the topic for a long time - what is the average (approximately natural!) lamp life?
DRL of course...)))

04.10.2011 19:27, Sergey Rybalkin

And by the way, who has been in the topic for a long time - what is the average (approximately natural!) lamp life?
DRL of course...)))

Which I yuzayu 1989g. release, while the flight is normal!
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04.10.2011 19:54, niyaz

And by the way, who has been in the topic for a long time - what is the average (approximately natural!) lamp life?
DRL of course...)))


250 cotton pads - 12,000 hours, 400 cotton pads-15,000 hours.

04.10.2011 19:58, Alexander73

250 cotton pads - 12,000 hours, 400 cotton pads-15,000 hours.


this is your own experience, or according to the standards stated by the manufacturers?)))

04.10.2011 20:07, niyaz

this is your own experience, or according to the standards stated by the manufacturers?)))


These are well known standards found by Google
http://zao-tehnolog.ru/page115488
http://electrohobby.ru/lam_drl_shema_podk_har_ustr_ra.html

04.10.2011 21:38, Alexander73

These are well known standards found by Google
http://zao-tehnolog.ru/page115488
http://electrohobby.ru/lam_drl_shema_podk_har_ustr_ra.html


For links-thank you! Let's hope that our lamps will not break out of these standards...))))

04.10.2011 21:57, mikee

For links-thank you! Let's hope that our lamps will not break out of these standards...))))

Stab wounds die much faster, but for the most part in the field, m do not survive to natural death during transportation.
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05.10.2011 7:31, Konung

As I understand it-no one "bothers" over such trifles as the place of production of the used "Osram" and "Philips" - DRL is it also DRL in China?! wink.gif
In any case - all successful fishing (catch by the tail the end of the season!)

The place of production is still an important factor! In China, it may be DRL, but the Russian ones are definitely some kind of under-DRL. I have experience comparing them: there were two lamps (DRL Sylvania and DRL Russkaya) in the steppe. The conditions are the same, but all the butterflies were on Sylvania, only a couple of specimens arrived on our planet. An explanation was found later: we looked at both lamps on the lumen. It turned out that the phosphor coating of Sylvania is much thinner than in our lamps (as well as Philips, OSRAM, etc.), so much so that you can see what is inside. Although they say that Sylvania and OSRAM are one and the same - but the difference between them is in favor of Sylvania.

05.10.2011 8:29, Bad Den

The place of production is still an important factor! In China, it may be DRL, but the Russian ones are definitely some kind of under-DRL. I have experience comparing them: there were two lamps (DRL Sylvania and DRL Russkaya) in the steppe. The conditions are the same, but all the butterflies were on Sylvania, only a couple of specimens arrived on our planet. An explanation was found later: we looked at both lamps on the lumen. It turned out that the phosphor coating of Sylvania is much thinner than in our lamps (as well as Philips, OSRAM, etc.), so much so that you can see what is inside. Although they say that Sylvania and OSRAM are one and the same - but the difference between them is in favor of Sylvania.

So from the point of view of lighting and safety our DRL is better than Sylvania wink.gif
But if you prick - it doesn't matter what smile.gif
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05.10.2011 8:54, Konung

So from the point of view of lighting and safety our DRL is better than Sylvania wink.gif
But if you prick, it doesn't matter which one smile.gif

but Sylvania can not be pricked, but flies like a prick! smile.gif and your eyes don't burn out!

05.10.2011 8:58, Bad Den

but Sylvania can not be pricked, but flies like a prick! smile.gif and your eyes don't burn out!

No, it should be even better to fly to the crushed one-the glass of the flask still delays UF

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