Features of light catching

Did I connect correctly or not?
On the left is a cartridge for the DRL lamp, on the right for incandescent light.

Right!

This is a parallel connection.
Bangs.

The cartridge with an incandescent lamp must be attached only to one of the two wires leading to the DRL.

The cartridge is on one vein - on the blue one.

Right now?

And now it is correct. The same thing, just mounted differently.

This post was edited by okoem - 05.10.2011 18: 26

Right!
The cartridge is on one vein - on the blue one.

Yes, Volodya, you're right,
On the brown,. and not all the same, the main thing is on one.

"In our program yesterday:" How to fix a gas stove yourself", an error crept in."

Yes, Volodya, you're right,
On the brown,. and not all the same, the main thing is on one.

"In our program yesterday:" How to fix a gas stove yourself", an error crept in."

Aha, "Manual for laying a parachute". 2nd edition, revised.

But such a model (as an alternative to hot-water lamps) was not discussed? What will be the opinion of experts?)))

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Something will definitely fly, especially if you replace a regular UV lamp and remove the hood. Caught on the energy-saving UV in the Voronezh region-flew well, but with DRL-DRV of course not to compare.

Recently, I've been using portable currency detectors on my expeditions.



I just put 3-4 such devices on the screen. It flies very well, especially in the mountains.

But such a model (as an alternative to hot-water lamps) was not discussed? What will be the opinion of experts?)))

I forgot to add that CFLs from 5 to 26 W can be screwed into this lamp, and in the case of a 26 W lamp, the operating time (according to manufacturers ' assurances) is about 2 hours.
P.S. And I am sure that with the help of a simple trick with wires, you can also power a small lamp with a tube lamp of approx. same power

Does this thing run on batteries?

There is a 6V 4.5 Ah battery and, as I understand it, something like an inverter, otherwise the energy-saving batteries would not light up)))
And, accordingly, the 2nd mode from the network (it is also a charging cord)

The model called "Oblik-5920" costs from 625 to 1100 rubles. (in online stores; maybe live, in some tour/sports goods there are cheaper, but I have not met)

Well, that's it, I tried it out at the dacha
On the night of May 8-9. The temperature during the day was about +18 degrees, at night about +10 degrees, the sky is overcast, sometimes rain, wind. And the weather was constantly changing - it was quiet at all, then suddenly gusty wind, then rain, then quiet again..
I lit a UV lamp somewhere at 10 pm, two ordinary lamps were burning in parallel-one very close, the other about three meters away. The very same UV with a white background of sheets, as it should be. Basically, of course, they flew to it, but sometimes some stray "made a mistake" and flew to the usual ones).
They started arriving around 11-11: 30 pm and until 3 am(then I went to bed). Mostly they were moths and small scoops, but there were also a few medium-sized butterflies(I don't know much about nocturnal ones yet). Some landed on the sheet, others did not fly close - they used a net.
Different counted 9 (small moles do not count), just took selectively about 20.
Lamp Repti Glo 10.0 UVB, 26 W.


In general, according to the weather, we can say that this was the first fairly warm day (today again dubak) there is still no grass in the forest, the buds on the birches have not bloomed, yellow and purple snowdrops and white flowers are blooming (like primroses, I don't know for sure). Overwintered nymphlids fly: urticaria, peacock's eye, c-white and quite a lot of springworms. Well, there is still a snowdrift in the courtyard near the bathhouse

Good evening! Please tell us in more detail-what was the continuation of your experience with this lamp? Is it worth it? (This means exactly as an expedition option in the absence of a generator, car, etc.)?
Or did you find something different and more effective?
Thank you in advance.

Good evening! Please tell us in more detail-what was the continuation of your experience with this lamp? Is it worth it? (This means exactly as an expedition option in the absence of a generator, car, etc.)?
Or did you find something different and more effective?
Thank you in advance.

Repti Glo
In my case, this is what it is inserted into the lamp for an ordinary tube: for the electrical part, a complete analog. Draw conclusions.
I can say that it flies better on it than on a regular LDS tube.

Vasily, good afternoon! Do you have Repti Glo 10.0? When fishing on it, do you need eye protection?

I came across heated discussions of terrariumists on the Internet about the" harm " (presence of UVC) of 10-ki. Naturally, they don't write about their eyes there, more and more about the eyes and skin of their pets))) (burning - not burning?!)

Vasily, good afternoon! Do you have Repti Glo 10.0? When fishing on it, do you need eye protection?

Good afternoon. I have 8.0 UVB left over from the time when I kept a terrarium with a chameleon. These are special lamps for reptiles with increased UV. By itself: for several years in a terrarium, it was used in my room and then I catch it without any protection.

Has anyone used this type of light trap? Tell us more about the principle of its operation. How effective is it for collecting small items? For example, to collect micra.

This post was edited by Alexey Vishnyakov - 12.10.2011 15: 08

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Has anyone used this type of light trap? Tell us more about the principle of its operation. How effective is it for collecting small items? For example, to collect micra.

Kotbegemot used this one and he dabbles in mikra, so all the questions are for him, but judging by the reports, krupnyachek is definitely going well and mikra comes across.

That's right, I used it. Works. It flies both micro and macro. It is not broken.
Inside it is necessary to put cartons from under the eggs.
Very convenient, set and check in the morning. But the little bird scum can also get inside - so we must wait for it!

But if you catch on a drl-250 lamp powered by a battery, then in order to catch for at least 4 hours, what should be the battery capacity in Ah?

But if you catch on a drl-250 lamp powered by a battery, then in order to catch for at least 4 hours, what should be the battery capacity in Ah?

Battery voltage? Rated operating voltage DRL?
Conclusion: it doesn't make sense to do this.... A battery trailer will also need an inverter to boot. Buy a generator and don't bother.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 13.10.2011 21: 23

But if you catch on a drl-250 lamp powered by a battery, then in order to catch for at least 4 hours, what should be the battery capacity in Ah?

Acc capacity. it will depend on its voltage. If you mean acc. with a voltage of 12 volts, then a rough calculation is as follows:
the lamp will consume 250/12 = 21 amps. Multiply by 4 hours to get 84 Amps / hour. Add here, let's say +20% losses, and we get a total capacity of about 101 amps/hour.

Acc capacity. it will depend on its voltage. If you mean acc. with a voltage of 12 volts, then a rough calculation is as follows:
the lamp will consume 250/12 = 21 amps. Multiply by 4 hours to get 84 Amps / hour. Add here, let's say +20% losses, and we get a total capacity of about 101 Amps/hour.

For 4 hours, you must first add 30% (for 6 hours - 20%, for 2 hours - 40%, for 1 hour-100%) of under-discharge. In total, the required capacity (for discharge in 4 hours) = 131Ah. Because with small discharge times, the battery gives only part of the capacity. The shorter the discharge time, the smaller part it gives off. And we need the given part to meet our conditions.

This post was edited by Seneka - 14.10.2011 11: 36

"I'm going to ask you one stupid question right now, just don't be offended, yes" And razve a lamp designed for 220 V AC will be powered from a 12 V DC battery without an inverter?

For 4 hours, you must first add 30% (for 6 hours - 20%, for 2 hours - 40%, for 1 hour-100%) of under-discharge. Total required capacity(for discharge in 4 hours) = 131Ah

And it will weigh about 30 kg

"I'm going to ask you one stupid question right now, just don't be offended, yes" And razve a lamp designed for 220 V AC will be powered from a 12 V DC battery without an inverter?

He just laid 20% on the inverter. Inverter efficiency: about 80%

A. niyaz didn't say anything about the inverter, I forgot about it.
And so yes, the generator will be more interesting to buy than the battery+inverter+charger (otherwise it will be disposable). And if it can be recharged, then the DRL can also be powered from this source

And it will weigh about 30 kg

I've just recalculated it more precisely:
To operate a 250W 220V lamp for 4 hours from a 12V battery, a 127Ah battery is required via an inverter

The calculation is made for the latest elements based on LiFePO4 3.2 V 7A 256 grams
of Such elements will require 72 pieces (or better yet +4) connected according to the 4x18 scheme
They will weigh 18-19 kg
Cost 79000 without delivery

The generator will be somewhat cheaper and easier...

Less dramatic is the calculation for energy-saving lamps
26W UV + 26W daylight for illumination. The brightness of visible light will be like that of an incandescent 130W lamp, the brightness of invisible ultraviolet I don't know how to estimate.

So, to work for 4 hours, you will need a 26.4 Ah battery, the number of elements 16= 4x4, weight 4kg, price 17500r without delivery

If you use LEDs for illumination, then under the same conditions, you can use a more powerful ultraviolet lamp. But LEDs require a slightly more complex circuit, need load balancing, and are more expensive than energy-saving ones.

This post was edited by Seneka - 14.10.2011 12: 53

For 4 hours, you must first add 30% (for 6 hours - 20%, for 2 hours - 40%, for 1 hour-100%) of under-discharge. In total, the required capacity (for discharge in 4 hours) = 131Ah. Because with small discharge times, the battery gives only part of the capacity. The shorter the discharge time, the smaller part it gives off. And we need the given part to meet our conditions.

"for 1 hour of 100%) under-discharge."?
You probably wanted to say that" when discharging a large current " acc. doesn't give away the entire capacity? In this case, I agree, it is necessary to add additional percentages to the capacity calculated by me.

"for 1 hour of 100%) under-discharge."?  
You probably wanted to say that" when discharging a large current " acc. doesn't give away the entire capacity? In this case, I agree, it is necessary to add additional percentages to the capacity calculated by me.

That's right, thanks for the clarification.

If you focus not on 4 hours of operation, but on, say, 10 hours and less lamp power. Then the same battery will be discharged more deeply(almost completely) and then 30% does not need to be added. For example, 26W from the same battery will last 9-10 hours, not 8.

This post was edited by Seneka - 14.10.2011 12: 54

The calculation is made for the latest elements based on LiFePO4 3.2 V 7A 256 grams
of Such elements will require 72 pieces (or better yet +4) connected according to the 4x18 scheme
They will weigh 18-19 kg
Cost 79000 without delivery

For 79000 you can buy a medium tub "classic" + generator is not the worst and go where you need

For 79,000 you can buy an average tub "classic" + the generator is not the worst and go where you need

The tragedy was that at the moment and with such requests, there is nothing better than a generator. However, a reasonable compromise is worth looking for. If you can reduce the weight of the battery to 2-3 kg, and raise the UV power to at least 34W + LED illumination, then such a kit can be carried to the tropics. It is assumed that in the tropics you live in a hotel, and go to catch the light / drive a few km away for one night.

This post was edited by Seneka - 14.10.2011 15: 32

I saw the post before the edit, there was more extreme stuff about the mountains
Are there enough capacious batteries weighing 2-3 kg?
I've only seen them like this: http://www.entosphinx.cz/images/items/38-55-3.jpg
Which is bigger-battery 12V/8Ah ( 14.4-15V; 2.40 A), weight 2.51 kg, size 65x151x94 mm

Well, or batteries for UPS: http://www.electrotrd.ru/ups-accumulators-csbhr.html

Are there enough capacious batteries weighing 2-3 kg?

This season I caught a little on acc. 7.5 AH, weight about 2.2 kg. With a 15-watt lamp, it lasts for about 5 hours. The inverter is self-made, I have already described it in this topic.

I saw the post before the edit, there was more extreme stuff about the mountains
Are there enough capacious batteries weighing 2-3 kg?
I've only seen them like this: http://www.entosphinx.cz/images/items/38-55-3.jpg
Which is bigger-battery 12V/8Ah ( 14.4-15V; 2.40 A), weight 2.51 kg, size 65x151x94 mm

Well, or batteries for UPS: http://www.electrotrd.ru/ups-accumulators-csbhr.html

I do not know what kind of batteries they are, but they are probably old technology.

I was overreacting about the mountains. They go to the mountains for more than one day.

I was talking about these elements
http://www.a123rc.com/goods-474-LiFePO4+Ba...3+32157%29.html
from which you can assemble a battery of any capacity.

Please note, 7Ah, 3.2 V, weight 253 grams!
A stack of 4 elements connected
in series 3.2*4 = 12.8 V will weigh 1kg! This is twice as easy as the one shown in the photo.

You can find a ready-made battery. Preferably in the form of a package, so that the battery is lighter. The case also has weight.

There is also a modification-Vanadium-doped LiFePO4. They have a larger capacity at the same weight, i.e. they will need less for a set.
But I haven't seen them on sale.

And yet, this company did not disclose its nano-technology to anyone, so everything that is not on the market of this company is not the same, there are no nanotubes.

By the way, this year or next year similar batteries with nanotubes will be produced and sold by nano-Chubais, so we are waiting for a domestic manufacturer.

This post was edited by Seneka - 14.10.2011 17: 10

I've just recalculated it more precisely:
To operate a 250W 220V lamp for 4 hours from a 12V battery, a 127Ah battery is required via an inverter

The calculation is made for the latest elements based on LiFePO4 3.2 V 7A 256 grams
of Such elements will require 72 pieces (or better yet +4) connected according to the 4x18 scheme
They will weigh 18-19 kg
Cost 79000 without delivery

The generator will be somewhat cheaper and easier...

Chet some too inflated amount. I don't quite understand what these fancy batteries are, but a new battery from a car with a capacity of 130-140 AH costs around 4 thousand rubles. On the market, used or stolen goods can be found cheaper. Plus 1000 rubles for a charger and 1000 rubles for a 300-watt inverter. It turns out all together in the region of 6000 rubles. The cheapest generator costs the same amount, but the battery is smaller in size, it can be carried in a small backpack and does not require gasoline and oil. Or am I wrong?

This post was edited by niyaz - 10/15/2011 16: 31

Chet some too inflated amount. I don't quite understand what these fancy batteries are, but a new battery from a car with a capacity of 130-140 AH costs around 4 thousand rubles. On the market, used or stolen goods can be found cheaper. Plus 1000 rubles for a charger and 1000 rubles for a 300-watt inverter. It turns out all together in the region of 6000 rubles. The cheapest generator costs the same amount, but the battery is smaller in size, it can be carried in a small backpack and does not require gasoline and oil. Or am I wrong?

An ordinary car battery has a capacity of 60-75 Ah. 130-140 Ah is for trucks, the weight in the district is not 27-30 kg. The inverter is about 1 kg, and the charger is about 1 kg. Total - 29 kg minimum total weight.
The generator weighs about 20 kg (+- 1 kg), but it requires gasoline and oil. (Clarification-Romuald talked about his modification of a cheap Chinese generator, the weight of which he reduced quite a lot)
In addition to the weight of the generator / battery, you also need to carry food, other equipment, a tent, sleeping bag, etc. If you hike for many days, the weight is very serious.
Also, the second question arises - the battery will last when using the DRL-250, well, even for 6 hours. Then it needs to be recharged somehow. If the area is remote and there is no electricity , then you will not be able to charge it (if you do not take into account the solar panels and the torsion of the dynamo handle ). If there is electricity , there is no point in dragging it on yourself (!) battery, generator and all related items no.

It's clear. Weight doesn't scare me. I can carry up to 40 kg on my back. Plus a screen, a lamp, a net in a bag in your hand. I'm not going to go on multi-day hikes, if I have to go there, then only by car and with a generator. My goal is to fish in the forest for light 2 km from the cottage with minimal costs. I noticed a place where the mountain offers a great view of the forest outskirts. Or does the distance traveled make little sense, and the locality will have the same species as in the forest? Do you think sheepskin is worth dressing?

It's clear. Weight doesn't scare me. I can carry up to 40 kg on my back. Plus a screen, a lamp, a net in a bag in your hand. I'm not going to go on multi-day hikes, if I have to go there, then only by car and with a generator. My goal is to fish in the forest for light 2 km from the cottage with minimal costs. I noticed a place where the mountain offers a great view of the forest outskirts. Or does the distance traveled make little sense, and the locality will have the same species as in the forest? Do you think sheepskin is worth dressing?

30-40 kg is a lot. I don't think you should take such a heavy, lead-acid battery if you don't have a personal Kamaz truck. There will be a little more extra clothes than you think, and the weight may be more than expected. You will be tired to death with such a weight and there will be no time to catch. Although, who knows how, you may like it.

My backpack, 90 liters, is rarely so tightly packed to weigh that much. Usually, when fully loaded, no more than 25-30kg, for a 10-day hike.
Plus, I have a 10.5 kg Fubag 700 generator. It has approximately the same dimensions as a 130-140 Ah battery. Bought for 8500r.
It's hard to walk alone, even with such a light generator.

I now not only try to save weight on the generator, but also on the fabric of the screen and even on strings... I bought a veil and a thin rip-stop cord (you'll break the fig), I'm still looking for a thinner wire and I'll have to give up the E40 base.

This post was edited by Seneka - 15.10.2011 21: 28

It's clear. Weight doesn't scare me. I can carry up to 40 kg on my back. Plus a screen, a lamp, a net in a bag in your hand. I'm not going to go on multi-day hikes, if I have to go there, then only by car and with a generator. My goal is to fish in the forest for light 2 km from the cottage with minimal costs. I noticed a place where the mountain offers a great view of the forest outskirts. Or does the distance traveled make little sense, and the locality will have the same species as in the forest? Do you think sheepskin is worth dressing?

Practice shows that if the terrain is mountainous or hilly, it is more profitable to catch in the lowlands, collecting butterflies from the surrounding heights. Naturally, the review should be maximized. But in each specific case, of course, it is necessary to choose a place "in place".