Features of light catching

I want to make a traplike this

Very original!

I want to make a trap like this

Will you collect butterflies by touch?

Then it's better like this:

Better this way, then:

Right.
But this option is used when the power source is not the 220 network, but batteries.
If there is a network, then it is better to replace the usual housekeeper with DRV / DRL

I still didn't understand how to prick DRL...

I still didn't understand how to prick DRL...

It's easy, but you need to read 38 pages

I still didn't understand how to prick DRL...

Oh my God.......
DRL lamp device
As you can see, it consists of two cylinders. So you remove the external nafig together with the phosphor) The main thing is not to spoil the giblets with the base. Then you run this case as a regular DRL.

Oh my God.......
DRL lamp device
As you can see, it consists of two cylinders. So you remove the external nafig together with the phosphor) The main thing is not to spoil the giblets with the base. Then you run this case as a regular DRL.

Only this will remain?

Only this will remain?

Да.

is it very hot?

is it very hot?

Very strong: when it works and until it cools down after switching off, you can not climb there with your hands in any case.

Very strong: when it works and until it cools down after switching off, you can not climb there with your hands in any case.

+1
small midges are grilled

 

Tell me, as an experienced DRL user.
Have you been in the tropics during the rain on a split DRL caught?
At what height did it hang?
Earlier you wrote that the DRL is hung high, on the mast, and the person in a wide-brimmed hat is lower, in the shadow of the hat. They even posted a photo report about fishing(I saw it).
Do you happen to have a photo of a stab DRL working in the tropics during the rain? It's just that I haven't seen any such photos on the forum, neither yours nor anyone else's... On the contrary, in all the photographs, the lamps are not broken, they do not hang high, and the person almost works in them with his face. Judging by the stories, in a heavy downpour and in the wind, covering the lamp is a whole problem. It would be interesting to see how you cover a high-mounted lamp and how it works in such conditions? What protection measures do you take against the explosion of a high-pressure flask?

This post was edited by Seneka-05.03.2012 17: 50

During all this time, once in the rain, a broken lamp died. Maybe the time has just come, the stab ones generally die faster than the non-stab ones. I always catch it in the rain - everything is fine. I hang the lamp down with the bulb, i.e. the cartridge at the top.

During all this time, once in the rain, a broken lamp died. Maybe the time has just come, the stab ones generally die faster than the non-stab ones. I always catch it in the rain - everything is fine. I hang the lamp down with the bulb, i.e. the cartridge at the top.

During heavy rain and wind, on the mast? It would be very interesting to see. I can't imagine how this can be arranged.

This post was edited by Seneka - 05.03.2012 18: 18

During heavy rain and wind, on the mast? It would be very interesting to see. I can't imagine how this can be arranged.

1. when there is a strong wind, the first thing to think about is that the screen does not fly away and does not break... This is the main problem. And the fact that in a strong wind years are usually bad...
2. about lighting fixtures:
- a telescopic stick is used for painting. It can be from 2 to 4 meters in the unfolded state;
- the stick is hollow inside, at the top there is a thread;
- the E40 cartridge is wound on the upper part or, in extreme cases, rigidly wound on a rigid or bending rod (from a table lamp, for example).
- at the level of the upper edge of the screen, a design of one or two energy-saving lamps is fixed;
- a metal rod or just a stake of suitable diameter is driven into the ground and a stick is placed on it (I remind you, it is hollow). If the pin is driven deep, and its surface part is long enough, then the stick is no longer afraid of wind.
- if necessary, the stick can be additionally fixed with stretch marks.
3. about electricity and so on:
- I remind you that the burner in the DRL is made of quartz glass that is transparent to ultraviolet light. An additional bonus is that this glass is heat-resistant and does not prick even from large temperature changes. Therefore, it works calmly in the rain.
- the bulb of DRL, DRV, incandescent lamps is made of ordinary glass and when cold water gets on it during operation, it explodes. Therefore, such lamps should be additionally protected by a transparent ceiling;
- the disadvantage of a split DRL is the presence of open current-carrying parts. The use of such structures is strictly prohibited by the electrical safety rules, but... where to go if you want.
- by itself, rain, fog and other atmospheric moisture has a very weak electrical conductivity, so there is no need to worry about current draining from the lamp. When running from an ungrounded generator, no conductive circuit is formed at all, even if you grab the torch electrode (do not try to check! ) The main danger occurs when the structure falls to the ground, which is even more dangerous in the rain. That is why the stick should be fixed well and constantly remember about the safety rules. After all, why do you have to go to this stick if you are busy with butterfly beetles
- the E40 cartridge usually has holes in the bottom, but water can also accumulate in the base of the lamp itself. Therefore, in the rain, the cartridge should simply be turned over when fixing or, if a flexible rod is used, simply tilt it 90 degrees.

1. when there is a strong wind, the first thing to think about is that the screen does not fly away and does not break... This is the main problem. And the fact that in a strong wind years are usually bad...
2. about lighting fixtures:
- a telescopic stick is used for painting. It can be from 2 to 4 meters in the unfolded state;
- the stick is hollow inside, at the top there is a thread;
- the E40 cartridge is wound on the upper part or, in extreme cases, rigidly wound on a rigid or bending rod (from a table lamp, for example).
- at the level of the upper edge of the screen, a design of one or two energy-saving lamps is fixed;
- a metal rod or just a stake of suitable diameter is driven into the ground and a stick is placed on it (I remind you, it is hollow). If the pin is driven deep, and its surface part is long enough, then the stick is no longer afraid of wind.
- if necessary, the stick can be additionally fixed with stretch marks.
3. about electricity and so on:
- I remind you that the burner in the DRL is made of quartz glass that is transparent to ultraviolet light. An additional bonus is that this glass is heat-resistant and does not prick even from large temperature changes. Therefore, it works calmly in the rain.
- the bulb of DRL, DRV, incandescent lamps is made of ordinary glass and when cold water gets on it during operation, it explodes. Therefore, such lamps should be additionally protected by a transparent ceiling;
- the disadvantage of a split DRL is the presence of open current-carrying parts. The use of such structures is strictly prohibited by the electrical safety rules, but... where to go if you want.
- by itself, rain, fog and other atmospheric moisture has a very weak electrical conductivity, so there is no need to worry about current draining from the lamp. When running from an ungrounded generator, no conductive circuit is formed at all, even if you grab the torch electrode (do not try to check! ) The main danger occurs when the structure falls to the ground, which is even more dangerous in the rain. That is why the stick should be fixed well and constantly remember about the safety rules. After all, why do you have to go to this stick if you are busy with butterfly beetles
- the E40 cartridge usually has holes in the bottom, but water can also accumulate in the base of the lamp itself. Therefore, in the rain, the cartridge should simply be turned over when fixing or, if a flexible rod is used, simply tilt it 90 degrees.

A working" non-punctured " DRL lamp (unlike DRV and, of course, incandescent lamps) does not react to rain in any way, it happened, and repeatedly, that I got it for half an hour or more under a downpour "like a bucket" - it would at least have something…

I'm not ready to give a technical explanation for this, but the fact remains. This was reported on page 10.

 
- the E40 cartridge usually has holes in the bottom, but water can also accumulate in the base of the lamp itself. Therefore, in the rain, the cartridge should simply be turned over when fixing or, if a flexible rod is used, simply tilt it 90 degrees.

In general, has anyone ever met a plastic cover for the e-40 cartridge? On the e27 cartridge, these are available.

In general, has anyone ever met a plastic cover for the e-40 cartridge? On the e27 cartridge, these are available.

I haven't seen any covers for the E-40. I wrap the electrical tape very tightly and hermetically from the cord to about 1/3 of the length of the cartridge-enough for the whole season, regardless of weather conditions.

- a telescopic stick is used for painting. It can be from 2 to 4 meters in the unfolded state;

Thank you for the detailed description. Straight, the lightning rod turns out... What if you like it? When folded, how long is the stick? There were no problems during transportation in the plane?

I'll try to do it, but it will weigh down the already heavy baggage by 2 kilograms (stick, E40 cartridge(better to do with E27), wire, throttle, small umbrella just in case). You can't do without an assistant.

By the way, what if you replace the split DRL with a bare metal halide ceramic burner? You don't have to prick anything, they have higher efficiency, and the principle and design are similar. I don't know about the glass. The throttle changes to a light Electronic control unit (from 200gr. for 70W).

This post was edited by Seneka - 06.03.2012 16: 39

Thank you for the detailed description. Straight, the lightning rod turns out... When folded, how long is the stick? There were no problems during transportation in the plane?

I'll try to do it, but it will weigh down the already heavy baggage by 2 kilograms (stick, E40 cartridge(better to do with E27), wire, throttle, small umbrella just in case). You can't do without an assistant.

By the way, what if you replace the split DRL with a bare metal halide ceramic burner? You don't have to prick anything, they have higher efficiency, and the principle and design are similar. I don't know about the glass. The throttle changes to a light Electronic control unit (from 200gr. for 70W).

For DRL, there are only E40 cartridges.

The metal halide ceramic burner has a different radiation spectrum, far from optimal.

not true.
for DRL-125W-cartridge E27

not true.
for DRL-125W-E27 socket

and not for DR In 125W ?

Yes, you're right, I looked it up now, for 125W. DRL cartridge E27. For more powerful E40.

Very strong: when it works and until it cools down after switching off, you can not climb there with your hands in any case.

  
... about lighting fixtures:
- a telescopic stick is used for painting. It can be from 2 to 4 meters in the unfolded state;
- the stick is hollow inside, at the top there is a thread;
- the E40 cartridge is wound on the upper part or, in extreme cases, rigidly wound on a rigid or bending rod (from a table lamp, for example).
- at the level of the upper edge of the screen, a design of one or two energy-saving lamps is fixed;
- a metal rod or just a stake of suitable diameter is driven into the ground and a stick is placed on it (I remind you, it is hollow). If the pin is driven deep, and its surface part is long enough, then the stick is no longer afraid of wind.
- if necessary, the stick can be additionally fixed with stretch marks.
3. about electricity and so on:
- I remind you that the burner in the DRL is made of quartz glass that is transparent to ultraviolet light. An additional bonus is that this glass is heat-resistant and does not prick even from large temperature changes. Therefore, it works calmly in the rain.
- the bulb of DRL, DRV, incandescent lamps is made of ordinary glass and when cold water gets on it during operation, it explodes. Therefore, such lamps should be additionally protected by a transparent ceiling;
- the disadvantage of a split DRL is the presence of open current-carrying parts. The use of such structures is strictly prohibited by the electrical safety rules, but... where to go if you want.
- by itself, rain, fog and other atmospheric moisture has a very weak electrical conductivity, so there is no need to worry about current draining from the lamp. When running from an ungrounded generator, no conductive circuit is formed at all, even if you grab the torch electrode (do not try to check! ) The main danger occurs when the structure falls to the ground, which is even more dangerous in the rain. That is why the stick should be fixed well and constantly remember about the safety rules. After all, why do you have to go to this stick if you are busy with butterfly beetles
- the E40 cartridge usually has holes in the bottom, but water can also accumulate in the base of the lamp itself. Therefore, in the rain, the cartridge should simply be turned over when fixing or, if a flexible rod is used, simply tilt it 90 degrees.

Yes ah nafig this DRL!!! I don't have any experience working with her yet. And in general, I'm afraid of her.

Entomon, that's right, DRL-dumb garbage First, there is a chance that the current will crack, the connection scheme is kind of simple, but nevertheless.
Well, if it is chipped, then a pathological tan can be snatched away, and even a whole one is not recommended to be hung lower than 5 m from the floor.

Once in the workshop, someone very smart decided that the potatoes, peppers and tomatoes that grew in a box on the windowsill did not have enough UV, because the sun shines on them through the window. And he hung over them DRL 400 broken, at a distance of approx. 1 m. So by the end of the shift, ALL the plants somehow turned interseno black, and the next day - all wilted, completely and irrevocably
Although, indeed, there are even special DRL phytolamps, they were purchased for greenhouses, they do not have phosphor at the very bottom for UV radiation, and the glass of the bulb there is more transparent for UV, but they need to be hung according to the rules, too, at some exorbitant height
By the way, such a lamp would be suitable for hunters, it both shines and emits UV

Here it is in the photo
http://fotkidepo.ru/?id=photo:598357

Yes ah nafig this DRL!!! I don't have any experience working with her yet. Besides, I'm afraid of her.

Be afraid of wolves - don't go to the forest

I haven't seen any covers for the E-40. I wrap the electrical tape very tightly and hermetically from the cord to about 1/3 of the length of the cartridge-enough for the whole season, regardless of weather conditions.

I bought a pair of these caps on the E-40 either in Leroy Merlin or in OBI.

This post was edited by Konung-07.03.2012 08: 28

To be afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest

DRL to be afraid - not to catch anyone ? And who in my 13 years will allow me to work with a stab?

This post was edited by Entomon-07.03.2012 12: 15

Entomon, that's right, DRL-dumb garbage First, there is a chance that the current will crack, the connection scheme is kind of simple, but nevertheless.
Well, if it is chipped, then a pathological tan can be snatched away, and even a whole one is not recommended to be hung lower than 5 m from the floor.

Once in the workshop, someone very smart decided that the potatoes, peppers and tomatoes that grew in a box on the windowsill did not have enough UV, because the sun shines on them through the window. And he hung over them DRL 400 broken, at a distance of approx. 1 m. So by the end of the shift, ALL the plants somehow turned interseno black, and the next day - all wilted, completely and irrevocably
Although, indeed, there are even special DRL phytolamps, they were purchased for greenhouses, they do not have phosphor at the very bottom for UV radiation, and the glass of the bulb there is more transparent for UV, but they need to be hung according to the rules, too, at some exorbitant height
By the way, such a lamp would be suitable for hunters, it both shines and emits UV

Here it is in the photo
http://fotkidepo.ru/?id=photo:598357

IMHO so it is better to put?

DRL to be afraid - not to catch anyone ? And who in my 13 years will allow me to work with a stab?

The main problem when working with a pricked DRL is UV radiation. Personally, I used special protective glasses (sold in workwear stores, they cost 200 rubles in the district), I smeared my skin with sunscreen with a degree of protection of at least 50 (Garnier costs 500-600 rubles for a bottle of 300 grams).
In my opinion, no one in their right mind will grab the bare electrical parts of a switched-on lamp with their hand. Well, if you just try-and what will be

In this topic, we have already mentioned that the DRL radiation spectrum is very wide, including the ultra-short UV range (~200nm), which can cause DNA destruction. This effect is usually used for disinfection. Are you not afraid to provoke cancer?

As for electrical safety and lightning safety, I can't add anything except
"Yes, a person is mortal, but that would be half the trouble. The bad thing is that he is sometimes suddenly mortal, that's the trick! (Woland)".

I prefer to spend a little longer, happily and carelessly fishing for a safe lamp, rather than much earlier to die from a non-safe one or earn some incurable disease. Why take the risk when insects are already flying at any light source, even a bonfire?

And I continue to wonder how anyone in their right mind can be near a lightning rod pole during thunderstorms (which are regular in the tropics), on high ground, in open terrain.

This post was edited by Seneka - 07.03.2012 17: 07

   IMHO so it is better to put?

And the screen you have in the air chtotli hanging?
Just the same rack is better adapted for the screen. not for the lamp. The lamp can also be hung on a rope stretched between the racks.

Entomon, it is very logical that the phosphor layer will protect against UV, and it seems that UV is needed to prevent insects from afar, so that's what you need.

But, in general, for the first time, the usual radio+flashlight with lum will also go for fishing. lamps, we sell a lot of them - there are two 8W T5 tubes, a 6V 4A/h battery, a charger(figgy, by the way) and a converter(more or less normal), all in one. Really true, there each tube does not give out 8W, but approx. 6, but if you tweak the converter(drosel needs to be changed), and change the local noname tubes to something like Philips(supernavorochennnuyu garbage is not necessary, this is unnecessary), then it will be what you need!
The only drawback is that the light is too unidirectional there.
If desired, you can insert one UV tube there, these are sold in abundance, just 8W T5, black.

But in the spring of 2011, my friend and I encountered more than once the phenomenon of extremely inactive summer in places that were previously rich in catches, both in quantity and in species composition. We used a 250-watt drl and a black housekeeper. There was an opinion that the black ufd did not attract anyone at all.

I also think that all these black lamps are bullshit. Just - this is my opinion - I think that an ordinary lamp is enough, and I have always done so.

Entomon, it is very logical that the phosphor layer will protect against UV, and it seems that UV is needed to prevent insects from afar, so that's what you need.

I often cut the bulb in half at DRL And not only to protect it from UV, but also to get a brighter light under the lamp. The only problem is that the exposed phosphor is very quickly scratched and worn, especially in the rain. Nothing is new in this world...

In this topic, we have already mentioned that the DRL radiation spectrum is very wide, including the ultra-short UV range (~200nm), which can cause DNA destruction. This effect is usually used for disinfection. Are you not afraid to provoke cancer?

As for electrical safety and lightning safety, I can't add anything except
"Yes, a person is mortal, but that would be half the trouble. The bad thing is that he is sometimes suddenly mortal, that's the trick! (Woland)".

I prefer to spend a little longer, happily and carelessly fishing for a safe lamp, rather than much earlier to die from a non-safe one or earn some incurable disease. Why take the risk when insects are already flying at any light source, even a bonfire?

And I continue to wonder how anyone in their right mind can be near a lightning rod pole during thunderstorms (which are regular in the tropics), on high ground, in open terrain.

Your "a little longer" can stretch out forever. Simply because there are many species that are fundamentally bad at flying into the light. Example: according to the literature, C. dominula flies during the day, however, it flies very successfully on a punctured DRL, but on a non - punctured one-FIG. And among such species there are very rare and desirable ones... Secondly, my friends and I often catch in a "walking" way, i.e., moving by car, every or almost every night we catch in a new place in order to cover different biotopes. And here, the effectiveness of luring is a key factor. You actually saw all this last spring in Dosang.
Now about the "lightning rod". First, why do you think the lightning rod was invented in the first place? To kill under it or defend yourself under it? Have you seen how metal pins are installed in gas stations? And you know that according to the Rules of electrical installations (PUE), it is RECOMMENDED to ground a metal roof using it as a lightning rod. And how do people survive under such roofs?... Secondly, and at the same time answering your question about the weight of the paint stick and its transportation on the plane, I can say that I carry it with me only when traveling by car. And in other cases, I am quite content with an ordinary wooden stick, cut down in the neighboring bushes. Again, wood does not conduct electricity

And the screen you have in the air chtotli hanging?
Just the same rack is better adapted for the screen. not for the lamp. The lamp can also be hung on a rope stretched between the racks.

Well, I sketched it . The screen is naturally stretched with ropes.

This post was edited by Entomon-07.03.2012 20: 43