Features of light catching

But then the question arose - do the savings banks light up the UV tube? Visually, its light is visible much better

Visually, we can't see the UV. What you see is not UV, but ordinary, visible light present in the spectrum of this lamp.
So that the lamps do not illuminate each other, just separate them in space (extend the wires).

So, after all, the light of savings blocks UV from the tube? If you spread it, how much?

So, after all, the light of savings blocks UV from the tube?

No.

Thank you. Sorry for the amateurish questions)
The fact that UV is invisible, I understand, just thought since the visible spectrum of the tube is muffled, then maybe UV too.

In general, we will try. And then the first raznousye in the evening already fly in the open window,

And the visible one is not jammed. How much radiation was so much left. And what you observe is a feature of perception. Don't spread it, it will get worse.

This post was edited by Seneka - 14.04.2012 23: 56

Yes, actually so I thought that it is better not to spread, in the middle there will be a UV tube vertically and savings banks on the sides

Butterflies will see what you won't see (namely UV). Don't worry about it

I understood that. Now while I check the batteries, an hour for 2 7Ah should be enough.

Friends, I have such a question.
Hung on the outdoor terrace DRL 250 non-gold and a couple of UV savings Camelion on 28 W. And around the corner of the terrace - on the dark side of the house (outside the space lit by DRL) - another UV savings bank. It turned out that on the savings bank on the dark side of the house, in general, no fewer butterflies arrive - or even a little more. And most importantly-a richer species composition.
What do you think, maybe the DRL 250 is too bright, and it is better to take the DRL 125?
There is a street lamp about 100 meters away, so there is "competition".
I don't want to prick the DRL - and health is more expensive, and people go nearby, they will look at it.

Friends, I have such a question.
Hung on the outdoor terrace DRL 250 non-gold and a couple of UV savings Camelion on 28 W. And around the corner of the terrace - on the dark side of the house (outside the space lit by DRL) - another UV savings bank. It turned out that on the savings bank on the dark side of the house, in general, no fewer butterflies arrive - or even a little more. And most importantly-a richer species composition.
What do you think, maybe the DRL 250 is too bright, and it is better to take the DRL 125?
There is a street lamp about 100 meters away, so there is "competition".
I don't want to prick the DRL - and health is more expensive, and people go nearby, they will look at it.

most likely, the side where there is only one savings bank is simply more catchy (in terms of the richness of vegetation, for example). it can't fly on it better than on an AWL, tested many times.

Entomoloji Box company continues to improve night fishing systems, and offers you the night entomological complex Ultraflaydray. As the name implies, this invention combines light weight and a rain protection system. We did not stand still and from the moment of our first publication, the company's employees, constantly practicing in various parts of the world, tested and improved a simple system of three sticks. And it looks like we've managed to strike a balance. The screen turned out to be light (which is quite important when transporting on an airplane), strong enough (you can hang a rain awning on it), it can be installed on any ground ( including asphalt), quickly assembled even at night ( thanks to the reduction of fasteners), placed in a backpack, taking up a minuscule share of useful space, well, and of course, if necessary, without fuss, cover the lamps from the rain, the included umbrella. As an umbrella - an ordinary piece of 100 mm. Cellophane, which is easily laid on top of aluminum tubes, and fixed with home clothespins. In the new configuration, the screen was tested in the rainiest place on Earth-in the western part of South America. The cost of the screen is 3000r., without gauze cloth. With fabric – 3500r.
To build such a screen, you don't need to call its manufacturer. You can easily assemble it yourself. To do this, you will need :
1. Aluminum tubes, 4 pcs., 2 m each. ( the diameter of the tube is from 10 to 20 mm., the thicker the tube, the stronger and heavier the structure).
2. Aluminum channel, as a screen support ( its size should be taken slightly more than the diameter of the tube. Be careful! The channel should be as rigid as possible).
3. The "bolts and nuts" you invented, for joining the cut material ( a 2-meter tube is cut in three places, to reach 50 cm of knee length. Be careful! The tubes must be firmly twisted together).
4. "Bulgarian", welding machine, with their help you will assemble a structure for hanging lamps, and an umbrella, corner elements.
5. Nails – 150mm., 10 pieces ( from them you will make pegs)
6. Linen cord.
7. If necessary, rolled pipe, with or without thread.
We wish you good luck.

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Romyald, according to the photos, you have two generators: Kipor and Svarog. Which of them do you prefer more and why?

My old combat friend stayed in Colombia. I worked for six years, circumnavigated the world twice, worked like Papa Carlo, and saved a lot of money and nerves. Originally called the Endress 700, it was then disassembled to reduce weight.
The newly purchased device is exactly copied from Endress to the smallest detail. I still don't know how good Kipor's build is. The seller assured that the buyers are satisfied. Let's take your word for it and test it with experience. Its engine is exactly like the Endress, but it's not the engine that matters. These devices have a very capricious microcircuit, slightly overloaded with power, and the microcircuit is kapets. In Moscow, its cost reaches as much as 5000r., despite the fact that the entire generator costs 9800r.
I can only say one thing-the generator is reliable, the motor is durable, but you always need to use it correctly. It will forgive a maximum of three mistakes. Then you'll have to buy brains. I usually use two 160W lamps, plus one high-power energy-saving lamp, or a low-power UV lamp. And I don't let the generator run for more than 4 hours without rest. In principle, the combination of weight, power and cost of this four-stroke car is the best to date.

Yes, I forgot to tell you what you called it Cbapor, if you meant that yellow generator under the awning, then full name.... This is a two-stroke engine, its engine is not reliable, its weight is huge, and the carburetor works as it pleases. In Colombia, I got tired of courting him. It will stall when it wants to.
A good generator was disassembled, it is on the 1153 photo on the right. I gave him the commands. And on that gray day in Chingaz, it started up as always, but the microchip failed.

Yes, I forgot to tell you what you called it Cbapor, if you meant that yellow generator under the awning, then full name.... This is a two-stroke engine, its engine is not reliable, its weight is huge, and the carburetor works as it pleases. In Colombia, I got tired of courting him. It will stall when it wants to.
A good generator was disassembled, it is on the 1153 photo on the right. I gave him the commands. And on that gray day in Chingaz, it started up as always, but the microchip failed.

This is the well-known kilowatt source from Uncle Liao
In our country, for example, it is sold under the brand name Elitech, in Thailand - Hyno. Basically, it's a lottery.

Yes, you are absolutely right.
And in principle, you can not bother at all, and buy push-pull trucks on the spot, if you certainly do not eat alone. Buy this stuff, fuck it, and give it to some farmer like we did. Just keep in mind one more nuance, that in some countries you can still get tired of looking for it. In such cases, I always take photos with me : the generator, lamps, refrigerator, etc., etc. rubbish that may suddenly come in handy.
In Colombia, for example, it took us a whole day to find the yellow generator together with an interpreter. How long would we have searched for it without an interpreter?

The seller assured that the buyers are satisfied.

To tell you the truth, I'm not happy. I changed 3 identical Kipor TI1000 generators and all had their own glitches. the first one just burned down in the taiga for no apparent reason-I replaced it under warranty. the second one for the second season began to lose the voltage at the output 15 minutes after the start - after three deliveries of this generator to the service in anger, I paid an additional 5 thousand and received new insides. the third immediately leaked oil from nowhere. it will stand for a day and a small puddle of oil appears under it. especially for fishing, it didn't hurt - I refilled the oil before each launch and caught it. at the end of the season, I gave it to the service - they said that there was a factory defect and somewhere it was necessary to grind off the iron a little to eliminate the gap. in the spring, I filled it with oil - the leak did not disappear, although it became a little less. on the first trip to the exit, as I already wrote in the fishing reports, the voltage began to disappear for 1 second, after which the generator continued in normal mode for 5 minutes, and then the same situation again, the overload light turned on for the third or fourth time (although it was only a lamp). For all the years of operation, the generators were never overloaded, used and stored according to all the rules. So in the end, I had to buy a new, already fourth generator from another manufacturer.

And the other one, which one is it?

And the other one, which one is it?

fubag (germany+china). I'm not sure if it's any better, I just don't want kipor anymore

Svyatoslav, I think that in your case you need to buy at least 1 sq. m., and its cost should be at least 15000r. In this pricing policy, there are certainly good cars. I have no choice, I need a four-stroke truck, up to 10 kg. Here is the link, there is a very large selection of generators http://www.bestgenerators.ru/component/vir...generatori.html. Probably, it is better for everyone to choose something more reliable, for example, a French generator ( everyone praises it). I'll take the lighter one, take it apart like the first time, and go.

Svyatoslav, I think that in your case you need to buy at least 1 sq. m., and its cost should be at least 15000r.

So I had all the kilowatt units in this price category, including the latest Fubag TI1000

Guys, Kipor full g ... o. I had enough of two pieces that broke during one season. The last two seasons I catch on a Honda, no complaints. Mishka's (Mikkey's) Kipor is also periodically buggy/broken, but it still holds up...

This post was edited on sdi-23.04.2012 07: 08

Guys, Kipor full g ... o. I had enough of two pieces that broke during one season. The last two seasons I catch on a Honda, no complaints. Mishka's (Mikkey's) Kipor is also periodically buggy/broken, but it still holds up...

Honda is slightly out of the price category 15,000 rubles

Honda is somewhat beyond the price category of 15,000 rubles

in fact, there was a temptation to buy a Honda, but the Toad got the better of this desire ))

in fact, there was a temptation to buy a Honda, but the Toad got the better of this desire ))

On the other hand 3 bad Kipors were purchased at the cost of one Ton

Maybe the fourth one will be lucky?

Guys, Kipor full g ... o. I had enough of two pieces that broke during one season. The last two seasons I catch on a Honda, no complaints. Mishka's (Mikkey's) Kipor is also periodically buggy/broken, but it still holds up...

No way is it buggy! Three seasons and one breakdown=switch. The repair cost 100 rubles and half an hour of time, I didn't have time to drive away from the workshop. But all this is on one condition: the first thing to do is to throw out the Chinese candle and put it on. Well, you also need to love the technique

This post was edited by mikee - 23.04.2012 19: 26

In other words, the padding between the steering wheel and the seat is still relevant.

No way is it buggy! Three seasons and one breakdown=switch. The repair cost 100 rubles and half an hour of time, I didn't have time to drive away from the workshop. But all this is on one condition: the first thing to do is to throw out the Chinese candle and put it on. Well, you also need to love the technique

Some people have a short memory. He doesn't even remember how, for example, last year in Astrakhan we were left with only one generator (someone's not buggy kipor stopped starting after the sands of Dosang). And somehow on the way to your Goose in the myrmidon nursery, he also somehow did not start up and we were left without female tau.
The repair lasted half an hour. How much time did you lose on it?" While driving through traffic jams, while returning - 4 hours of lost time exactly.

Well, you also need to love the technique

I really love technology! my kipor's candle was (and still is) Japanese...

Here's your problem
In general, buying cheap equipment - you need to be able to fix everything yourself, then there is really no need to pay more, the purchase will justify itself, and if you take it to the service, then this is not the case at all.
All Chinese crafts should be completely disassembled immediately after purchase, everything should be checked, lubricated, and some components should be replaced immediately, in general, as it was previously relevant - "modify with a file". And trusting services is a dumb thing)))

As a child, when I was small, I really liked to sort everything out. So until now, this useful habit has remained . After all, before becoming a good doctor, you need, as they say, to see a person from the inside, and for this you need not get out of the autopsy. Similarly, in technology, in order to talk to it in a language, you need to imagine how these nodes work, understand their relationship .
Having a disassembled generator, and having built a frame for the gutted nodes, I could always quickly and timely fix problems. For inverter generators, all minor breakdowns can be fixed within 15 minutes. Is the switch broken? Never mind him, I don't need him. Just click on a certain button and the generator turns off. Don't you want the cord that you pull after the 100th time to suddenly break in the jungle of Kalimantan? And this is not a problem. Just have the necessary tools . Honda can also break, by the way .
So I'll give you a little advice . Please contact your local repair shop before purchasing a generator. Find out what most often breaks down in your chosen brand of generator. Find out if you can buy it urgently. As much as possible, if you do not want to disassemble, study the structure of the generator. At Kipor, and probably all other inverters, there is a motor from the same Honda, only it is assembled in China. Its motor life should last for a long time ( if it is serviced in a timely manner). And if you want to be completely independent of circumstances, buy a spare chip or a spare candle in a repair shop, and you are the king of the forests, taiga and jungle.

Good gentlemen, we need your advice. I took care of a trip across the expanses of my Homeland , and I will catch time only at dusk, i.e. at light. By car. There is no way to take a generator with you, and you don't have much money. So I think I can do without it. using schemas
1. Or take a 12-220 volt 150 watt inverter (more powerful and more expensive) and try to connect DRL-150
2 to it. Google says that there are energy-saving lamps that can operate from DC at 12 volts, i.e. in this case I do without a converter, but just stock up on lamps.
Who can recommend what scheme? Thanks!

At Kipor, and probably all other inverters, there is a motor from the same Honda, only it is assembled in China. Its motor resource should last for a long time

only electronics always die in kipors. unkillable engines.

1. Or take an inverter 12-220 volts watts at 150 (more powerful and more expensive) and try to connect DRL-150
to it 2. Google says that there are energy-saving lamps that can operate from DC at 12 volts, i.e. in this case I do without a converter, but just stock up on lamps.
Who can recommend what scheme? Thanks!

The inverter will die if you connect to it a DRL lamp of the same power as it. The starting power of the DRL exceeds the rated power by about 3 times, so consider for yourself... but with DRV lamps, you can already run such a scheme. So the optimal solution, in my opinion, will be an inverter for 150 W + DRV for 125 W. The main thing is not to forget to recharge the battery on time, otherwise you will not start the car drv will quickly suck out the battery., but the result will be many times better than when fishing on an energy-saving bike.

Or metal-halogen (MG, not just halogen) on 12V is more powerful to find.

Good gentlemen, we need your advice. I took care of a trip across the expanses of my Homeland , and I will catch time only at dusk, i.e. at light. By car. There is no way to take a generator with you, and you don't have much money. So I think I can do without it. using schemas
1. Or take a 12-220 volt 150 watt inverter (more powerful and more expensive) and try to connect DRL-150
2 to it. Google says that there are energy-saving lamps that can operate from DC at 12 volts, i.e. in this case I do without a converter, but just stock up on lamps.
Who can recommend what scheme? Thanks!

I have equipped my car with a 1.5 Kva stationary inverter with a sine wave output. I equipped the power outlets on the side panel and calmly connect an extension cord with any lamps there . Pulls everything, in pm a small power tool, if necessary, which is very convenient for hiking. This inverter cost otech pr-va about 7 thousand. Reliable, compact (it stands under the passenger seat), there is no smell of gasoline from the generator in the cabin, etc.
When buying portable Chinese inverters, keep in mind that the actual power and the declared power may differ, so buy with a margin to the expected load.

I have equipped my car with a 1.5 Kva stationary inverter with a sine wave output. I equipped the power outlets on the side panel and calmly connect an extension cord with any lamps there . Pulls everything, in pm a small power tool, if necessary, which is very convenient for hiking. This inverter cost otech pr-va about 7 thousand. Reliable, compact (it stands under the passenger seat), there is no smell of gasoline from the generator in the cabin, etc.
When buying portable Chinese inverters, keep in mind that the actual power and the declared power may differ, so buy with a margin to the expected load.

And how many batteries and what capacity are they on your "sperm whale"?

Only one 80 ah.

Victor, the idea is cool , but there is a risk of landing the battery, and then not starting up . Or do you turn on the engine to recharge while fishing ?
At my house, three circulation pumps (all together 230 W), in four hours empty the 65 A battery to zero.