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26.04.2012 23:35, Victor Gazanchidis

Yes, what is the question, the engine can generally be kept running or turned on periodically. Good engines eat a little at idle. Put the car away, extend the extension cord and catch yourself. In the rain, you can sit in the cabin with a view of the screen.
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27.04.2012 5:37, Konung

Yes, what is the question, the engine can generally be kept running or turned on periodically. Good engines eat a little at idle. Put the car away, extend the extension cord and catch yourself. In the rain, you can sit in the cabin with a view of the screen.

the generator in this regard will be more economical ))

27.04.2012 8:55, Maksim M.

Good inverters have protection against falling vx. voltage, in warm weather - from 0 C and above will not land to a critical level of charge.He passes out and squeals nastily.You start the engine and continue to catch.The inverter has its advantages and there are quite a few of them,but you need to remember - the cable length,if the inverter is at the beginning, falls to the load adding the final value.
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27.04.2012 9:34, mikee

the generator in this regard will be more economical ))

Several times :- ) Moreover, if someone wants to screw in the same inverter and use it at full capacity, then first you need to buy a car with a motor of 400 hp, because otherwise the generator will not pull at idle.

27.04.2012 9:43, Bad Den

Several times :- ) Moreover, if someone wants to screw in the same inverter and use it at full capacity, then first you need to buy a car with a motor of 400 hp, because otherwise the generator will not pull at idle.

Viktor just seems to fit smile.gif
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27.04.2012 20:32, niyaz

I spent 5 days in the village of Bolshye Bitamany, comparing different versions of lighting devices with each other. I used to fish from the back garden. From the hill, the view opens up as follows: the river staritsa, a dry meadow, followed by agricultural fields, the Ashit River, followed by a mixed forest with a predominance of pine.
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Caught on simultaneously on two screens. There were 3 screens of 2*1.5 meters available. Two of them are made of white cotton calico and one white fluorescent stretch mesh.
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The bulbs were as follows: Kolota DRL-400 (Russia) connected via a 500 W incandescent lamp, DRV -250 (Osram), DRV-160 (Osram), DRV-160 (Philips), Energy-saving UV lamp "Camelion" 27 W, incandescent lamp 100 W.

Day 1: Kolota DRL-400 (Russia) and calico vs DRV -250 (Osram) and fluorescent mesh. Much better flew to the second option.
Day 2: DRV -250 (Osram) and white calico vs DRV-160 (Osram) and fluorescent mesh. Despite the lower power, the DRV-160 flew noticeably better.
Day 3: installed screens made of the same material. DRV -250 (Osram) and white calico vs DRV-160 (Osram) and white calico. A slightly small advantage over 250 cotton wool.
Day 4: DRV -160 (Osram) and Belaya calico vs DRV-160 (Philips) and belaya calico.
It flew the same way. Well, maybe a little more "not banal" remembered Osram.
Day 5: UV lamp "Camelion" 27 w, incandescent lamp 100 w and fluorescent grid vs DRV -250 (Osram) and white calico. It was a bad day for summer: clear and cold. The second option was not much better.

I made the following conclusions for myself: 1) fluorescent fabric gives a great advantage when fishing over ordinary white calico. 2) There is practically no difference between light bulbs from different companies (specifically Osram and Philips). 3) The difference between using the same bulbs of different power, although there is, but when it comes to saving electricity or fuel, the use of a lower power bulb justifies itself.
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29.04.2012 20:56, Krupskyi

Niyaz, where did you get the fluorescent grid?
Regarding the topic discussed above - I use a car inverter myself, so far I am satisfied. I do not turn off the engine, the consumption on the car is small. The only and main disadvantage is the dependence of the choice of a place for fishing on the availability of any road. And then for many years I start the season with digging cars out of mud/sand, etc.

29.04.2012 22:21, niyaz

Niyaz, where did you get the fluorescent grid?

I took it from this store. http://luminofor.ru/index.php/cat/c67_Tkani-i-setki.html
True, I did not order on the Internet, but went to their store while passing through Moscow.
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30.04.2012 22:21, captolabrus

Something Honda puzzled, the lightest is 13 kg, and the tank is 2.5 liters, the working time is not long. The 4-liter engine already weighs 21 kilos. Not an option with this in your hands to take walks.

30.04.2012 23:28, niyaz

Something Honda puzzled, the lightest is 13 kg, and the tank is 2.5 liters, the working time is not long. The 4-liter engine already weighs 21 kilos. Not an option with this in your hands to take walks.


Alternatively, the Europower EPSi1000 generator is available. The tank is 3 liters, working time is 8 hours.
http://www.mosgenerator.ru/component/virtu...r-epsi1000.html
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02.05.2012 22:26, PhilGri

My kit for installing the screen when hiking with a backpack.
A sharpened one-meter stick made of hazel, two lower knees of a 5-meter fishing rod, two thin "arcs" with an elastic band for tents (assembled 2 m each), paper clips, ultralight tent pegs, a coil of rope for guy ropes, light carabiners. Well, the screen itself is made of a thin light fabric (not present in the photo).

Depending on the circumstances, the stick can also be cut out on the spot.
We stick the stick in the ground as far as possible, from above we additionally drive something heavy. We lay out the fishing rod, put it on a stick. We collect "arcs" (which in fact almost do not bend during use). On the top we put on the screen loops, grab them with clips. We hang the " arc " with the screen using a carabiner wound in the center on the upper ring of the fishing rod (at a height of approximately 2.3 m). We grab the lower "arc" to the screen with clips and put it on the ground. We fix all four corners of the screen with braces with pegs. If necessary, we make guy wires to the fishing rod. Voila smile.gif

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This post was edited by PhilGri-09.05.2012 20: 26

04.05.2012 21:54, captolabrus

Forgive me my illiterate question, generator honda eu 10, it says the operating time is up to 8 hours. Tell me, who understands this, with a 250-watt DRL lamp, and let's say a savings bank, how long will it work with a tank capacity of 2.3 liters? Thank you in advance to everyone who is responsive and patient!

05.05.2012 15:33, Romyald

Forgive me my illiterate question, generator honda eu 10, it says the operating time is up to 8 hours. Tell me, who understands this, with a 250-watt DRL lamp, and let's say a savings bank, how long will it work with a tank capacity of 2.3 liters? Thank you in advance to everyone who is responsive and patient!

In fact, it is better not to strain the generator for more than 5 hours, it is better to let it work for 4 hours, and then smoke for 15 minutes. Everything that the manufacturer writes should be divided by 2, then it will be useful. Your tank of 2.3 liters for a thousandth person, will last within 5 hours, only if I were you, I would put 160 watts on both sides., I don't see any point in a 250-watt lamp. It takes more current at start-up, and shines a little brighter than the 160 W lamp.

05.05.2012 18:21, captolabrus

250 cotton stab, I read the recommendations and realized that it is very catchy in its stab version. True, in the Kostroma region, something mystical is happening with the summer, there is no summer.

05.05.2012 20:34, Romyald

250 cotton stab, I read the recommendations and realized that it is very catchy in its stab version. True, in the Kostroma region, something mystical is happening with the summer, there is no summer.

About the "catchability" of a split lamp-these are real entomologist's tales. With a punctured lamp, you can successfully remain without vision long before retirement. smile.gif
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05.05.2012 20:55, captolabrus

Yes, I don't even know what to try, I really observe the absence of an intense summer in different biotopes and under different weather conditions for the second year ,whether it's a lamp or something else, I don't understand.Probably a pause in insects in the number of individuals.

05.05.2012 21:20, alex017

And I recently came up with the idea to catch on a lamp from a UV sterilizer: there is a lot of UV, no need to prick, power - to choose from.

10.05.2012 12:31, mikee

About the "catchability" of a split lamp-these are real entomologist's tales. With a punctured lamp, you can successfully remain without vision long before retirement. smile.gif

"these are real entomologist's tales" - boldly, boldly! smile.gif Practical experience, not just mine, suggests the opposite. Efficiency is shown mainly in severe conditions (for example, urban lighting) and, if necessary, quickly and most fully capture a large biotope (if you choose the appropriate location).
"to remain without sight" - it is necessary to protect yourself... tongue.gif
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10.05.2012 12:35, Macroglossum

About the "catchability" of a split lamp-these are real entomologist's tales. With a punctured lamp, you can successfully remain without vision long before retirement. smile.gif

For 10 years of fishing for stab, the eyesight has significantly decreased...((((And maybe just age is not catching the year and "diopters are getting worse"

30.05.2012 18:12, Romyald

Ah, my practice shows that in urban biotopes there is nothing to catch at all ( if only gimorroi), and in suburban biotopes preference falls on places that are constantly illuminated all year round, for example, sparsely populated village stations, railway crossings, single lamps on the outskirts of villages. In such places, you do not need to have a generator and a lamp at all, just a net( preferably tweezers with a wide grip) and a syringe. As for the lamp, in places where there is no extraneous light, wind and moon, you can put ... about catching on a chipped, non-chipped, 400, 250, 160W lamp, respectively. The more powerful the lamp, the further the light-shadow boundary extends, and the more territory you need to control. I chose two lamps of 160 watts on each side, the best option. The generator runs longer, eats less gasoline, has a smaller area for inspection, etc.
The approach of nocturnal insects is more affected by: temperature, light precipitation ( the insect is constantly worried about fine rain and in any case, sooner or later it will catch up to the screen), the absence of extraneous light( at least 2 km in diameter), the absence of the moon and wind. And of course, a well-chosen place.
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30.05.2012 18:43, Romyald

And I also forgot to say that you should not rely entirely on night fishing, you must definitely explore the selected area for night and day. You can find something that doesn't come to light, or be prepared in advance to meet insects that you saw but couldn't catch at night.
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06.06.2012 0:56, mikee

USSR, DRT-500 irradiation in kindergarten... Sun baths... (from the electricians ' website).
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06.06.2012 2:30, niyaz

I found an interesting item in the advertising booklet "Center for Unique products": Multifunctional portable lamp
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Description: It has a folding case, a built-in battery and an autonomous radio, it is charged not only from the dynamo, but also from the cigarette lighter and from the mains (adapters included). A set of adapters will give full autonomy to your phone and laptop.
http://www.vitekshop.ru/?id=show_item&open=604082
The price is 2,240 rubles.

I wonder if it can power energy-saving devices at 50 watts?

This post was edited by niyaz - 06.06.2012 10: 41

06.06.2012 4:33, vasiliy-feoktistov

I found an interesting item in the advertising booklet "Center for Unique products": Multifunctional portable lamp
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I wonder if it can power energy-saving devices at 50 watts?

No matter how much dynamite you turn (even to the point of turning blue): The power saver won't eek.gifwork not the LED smile.gif

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 06.06.2012 04: 34
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25.06.2012 17:35, cherepahovod

Tell me please.. My question will seem stupid to you, I have no experience in catching light. (and I, to be honest, am only 12 years old...)
In general, the question is-what inexpensive and harmless lamp can be used for fishing? Maybe some kind of energy-saving, etc., but the main thing is that it is inexpensive, harmless and affordable, and that it fits into a regular lamp.
And one more question.. At what distance from the ground should the lamp be placed? And what available material should the screen be made of? And when is it better to catch butterflies - on a cloudy night or on a clear one?
Maybe there is a similar topic, but I didn't find it. Thank you all!

25.06.2012 18:38, okoem

  
In general, the question is-what inexpensive and harmless lamp can be used for fishing? Maybe some kind of energy-saving one ... inexpensive, harmless and affordable , ... in a normal lamp fit.

You have already answered your own question. smile.gif

25.06.2012 18:52, cherepahovod

Oh, thank you for your answer! Is the Navigator 25W energy-saving lamp suitable for warm white light?
And also... does the screen have to be large? Or any of them?

25.06.2012 22:11, okoem

Oh, thank you for your answer! Is the Navigator 25W energy-saving lamp suitable for warm white light?
And also... does the screen have to be large? Or any of them?

Warm white - undesirable. Cold white is better. Or at least neutral.
Size - the bigger the better. But you can also catch on a small one.

25.06.2012 22:31, niyaz

Tell me please.. My question will seem stupid to you, I have no experience in catching light. (and I, to be honest, am only 12 years old...)
In general, the question is-what inexpensive and harmless lamp can be used for fishing? Maybe some kind of energy-saving, etc., but the main thing is that it is inexpensive, harmless and affordable, and that it fits into a regular lamp.
And one more question.. At what distance from the ground should the lamp be placed? And what available material should the screen be made of? And when is it better to catch butterflies - on a cloudy night or on a clear one?
Maybe there is a similar topic, but I didn't find it. Thank you all!

If you want to catch a normal number of butterflies, use lamps that emit ultraviolet light. A good option is a 160-watt DRV lamp on an e27 base. But I think the screen is more important than the light. It is better if it is large (at least 1.5 by 3 meters) and covered with phosphor. After all, butterflies do not even fly at the light itself, but at its reflection. Ask your father to help you with money and build a lamp with a base and cable.

26.06.2012 9:07, cherepahovod

He's strained with money, just like my mother... And I can't even imagine how to build this whole structure.. Do they sell phosphor-coated fabrics, or do you have to make them yourself? We are generally strained with money, and I am very serious as a prof. I don't need entomologists, I'm still just an amateur.

26.06.2012 9:17, cherepahovod

By the way, can you use the Reptilian Glo 10.0 lamp (this is an ultraviolet lamp for reptiles)? And then I could borrow from the turtle for a while))

26.06.2012 11:03, niyaz

Do they sell phosphor-coated fabrics, or do you have to make them yourself? We are generally strained with money, and I am very serious as a prof. I don't need entomologists, I'm still just an amateur.

They sell it. 200 rubles per running meter. In general, 3 meters is equal to the cost of a Reptilian lamp. It's strange, you live in the northern oil region, but you don't have much money. Why did you go there then?

26.06.2012 12:52, cherepahovod

In general, we bought white calico.. 2 by 1.5 meters. I hope it will work for the first time?
I don't know where to buy the DRV or how to connect the whole thing... Or while I can manage energy-saving?

27.06.2012 19:55, cherepahovod

Question: is it possible to catch on Repti Glo 10.0????

27.06.2012 20:46, cherepahovod

Waiting for an answer to your question!

27.06.2012 20:52, alex017

Smoke flies even on a candle....... Well, who will catch an unnecessarily expensive lamp? So they are silent. Why worry so much.....

27.06.2012 20:56, cherepahovod

Well, purely theoretically... it emits ultraviolet light and is as bright as energy-saving... Power is 27 watts..

27.06.2012 22:06, niyaz

Well, purely theoretically... it emits ultraviolet light and is as bright as energy-saving... Power is 27 watts..

27 watts is most likely not the power of the lamp, but the size of the base to which it is screwed (e27) .

27.06.2012 22:23, niyaz

Question: is it possible to catch on Repti Glo 10.0????

it is possible, but it is better in combination with visible spectrum lamps. Otherwise you will catch butterflies by touch)

28.06.2012 7:42, cherepahovod

So it shines like a fluorescent lamp, why can't I see it?)

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