Features of light catching

Maybe I've already aged a little and the memory has become a little bad, but the drv has a light output of about 18-20lm/w, and the drl has 60lm/w. Although I use drv at work, I am against it internally, but sometimes you just need to quickly cover it... I'd never do that for myself.

Maybe I've already aged a little and the memory has become a little bad, but the drv has a light output of about 18-20lm/w, and the drl has 60lm/w.

And the DNAT lamp has a higher light output than the DRL http://www.evis-energy.ru/powersafe-techno...todiodaxsd.html

now I'm trying to turn it on at home, it gets very hot (the throttle is also smaller) is this how it should be?

But the DRV with the UV part of the spectrum is all right. Lanterns in parks with yellow light - you probably mean DNAT lamps that shine more orange light and are considered environmentally friendly, since they do not attract insects.
By the way, I had to compare DRL ci installed in localities. So, DRLki hung on dark tarred wooden poles poorly attracted insects, regardless of their location, while DRLki on concrete pillars, the light of which fell on a light fence, attracted not comparably better. Hence, it is concluded that the quality of the reflective surface is a crucial factor for insects attracted to light traps.

I would not draw conclusions about what is crucial: light or a reflective surface, especially since it is a thankless task to compare disparate objects that do not have common units of measurement. In my opinion, these are two sides of the same coin. At the same time, when catching light on a reflecting/attracting surface, attention is traditionally paid much less.. You probably want to reduce this" injustice " if not to correct it. And yet, without a normal light source, no screen will help, and the light even from a campfire and without an artificial reflector flies, sometimes not bad.

now I'm trying to turn it on at home, it gets very hot (the throttle is also smaller) is this how it should be?

Unfortunately, yes.

And the DNAT lamp has a higher light output than the DRL http://www.evis-energy.ru/powersafe-techno...todiodaxsd.html

Yes, above, they are leaders, up to 140lm / w, but here are the dumb lamps, I personally don't like their light.

Buy mg lantern-here is a high-quality white light with high light output, though without UV.

now I'm trying to turn it on at home, it gets very hot (the throttle is also smaller) is this how it should be?

Yes, this is normal. Before using the lamp, of course, it is necessary to fix/hang it so that the nearest surfaces, especially wooden and other flammable ones, are at least 30 cm away.

Yes, this is normal. Before working, the lamp, of course, must be fixed/suspended so that the nearest surfaces, especially wooden and other flammable ones, are at least 30 cm away.

all the wires are in the country, and what I found at home is not enough

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all the wires are in the country, and what I found at home is not enough

Too close, of course. But there is no way to move it away from the screen? At home by the window or on the balcony?

Too close, of course. But there is no way to move it away from the screen? At home by the window or on the balcony?

on the balcony. there is no way to remove the fabric, but the lamp could be removed if the wire from the throttle to the lamp was longer, but there is no such thing

on the balcony. there is no way to move the fabric away, but the lamp could be moved away if the wire from the throttle to the lamp was longer, but there is no such thing

and if you move the lamp in an arc up and forward (support it under the base or pull it up from above), so that it is not vertically down, but at 45 degrees? By the way, try to look less at the lamp and the light spot on the screen, although it is not split, the light is very bright.

Also once on the balcony I wanted to shine a light.. The people below began to gather, then the fire brigade arrived. I won't mess up any more

all the wires are in the country, and what I found at home is not enough

This distance is quite enough. My portable screen has a much smaller distance from the lamp to the fabric

There was a case when the fabric in 15 cm from DRL250 I burned. Now for the guarantee I hang it further.

This distance is quite enough. In my portable screen, the distance from the lamp to the fabric is much smaller

There was a case when the fabric in 15 cm from DRL250 I burned. Now, for a guarantee, I hang it further.

the distance was enough, the fabric was just a little warm.
somehow strange.. some of the moths were beating at the neighboring windows and did not want to fly in through the open window of the balcony(

but dofiga was small caddis flies

despite the 11 lanterns that prevented all the moths from flying just to me, here's what I caught


also on the wall opposite (and on my corner balcony) sat katokala, but I could not reach a very long distance, and she did not want to fly to the canvas




by the way, why if you turn off the lamp, it then immediately does not turn on?

the distance was enough, the fabric was just a little warm.
somehow strange.. some of the moths were beating at the neighboring windows and did not want to fly in through the open window of the balcony(

but dofiga was small caddis flies

despite the 11 lanterns that prevented all the moths from flying only to me, here's what I caught (caught from 11i to 2x)


also on the wall opposite (and on my corner balcony) sat katokala, but I could not reach a very long distance, and she did not want to fly to the canvas

by the way, why if you turn off the lamp, it then immediately does not turn on?

The stores don't have PVA either?

The lamp will turn on only after cooling down. It is ok.

This post was edited by alex017 - 20.07.2012 09: 36

and why spend money if I take her to the dacha today
and there are these wires..

This post was edited by Collector - 07/20/2012 09: 48

Since the DRL steers, and the DRL-250 also pedals, but greedy airlines limit the weight of luggage to 20 kg per passenger, then the question arises of reducing this very weight of luggage. In particular, there was an idea to replace the standard throttle for DRL-250 (1I250DRL44-003 UHL1 IP54 in the "external" version) with EPRA. By questioning search engines, it turned out that firstly, such EPRA is rare (only Eltam Ein-Hashofet was found, weight 930 grams); secondly, only one company sells in Russia (I'll point my finger at EPRA right away - http://epra-consulting.ru/search/detail.php?ID=7050) with rather strict conditions: one EPRA in one hand only for legal entities only by bank transfer.
The question immediately arises - and there are definitely no other ESRs? May Yandex and Google are wrong?

On a reasonable at first glance advice to reduce the weight of luggage: "give up the throttle, take the DRV with you on the road" - I am an adept of the DRL Ringers sect, so my religion does not allow me

There are of course many. If you read the manufacturer's page, you can find that this is an epr for mg lamps, and there are many of them. Look for them accordingly.
Only the price will not please you. Although you can switch to 150W drl, there the price of the issue will be smaller and easier to find, the mass is also smaller.

Oh, you don't feel sorry for your eyes, but in vain.

Here's the ballast
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250W-220V-METAL-...=item257363a992

Cheaper to find probably won't be easy. If you need help with the purchase, write to us.

This post was edited by alex017 - 22.07.2012 06: 52

what is the epr for mg lamps

It says that this particular EPRA is suitable for DRL, MG and DNaT.
The rest of the DRL is not mentioned.
And I understood that the discharge characteristics of MG and DRL are somewhat different, so there is a chance that such an EPRA will not work, and I do not want to experiment.

UPD.
there is an opinion that not every EPR for MG is suitable for DRL

This post was edited by Bad Den - 07/22/2012 13: 46

If you don't try it, you won't know. I have free ballast for 150W, but there are no such small drlok.

Here's the ballast
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250W-220V-METAL-...=item257363a992

I contacted the seller - the device weighs 2.5 kg. Deny

This post was edited by Bad Den-22.07.2012 17: 21

I tested the lamp in the field. just gorgeous!) several types of hawkmoth and a bunch of shovels at once and this is in a strong wind and cold.I regret that I didn't buy it earlier

I contacted the seller - the device weighs 2.5 kg. Deny

150w ballast weighs hundreds of grams.
So the Chinese is selling regular empra.

I tested the lamp in the field. just gorgeous!) several types of hawkmoth and a bunch of shovels at once and this is in a strong wind and cold.I wish I'd bought it sooner

That's it!

I contacted the seller - the device weighs 2.5 kg. Deny

I have searched many times, unfortunately, electronic PRA for fluorescent lamps, including DRL, with a power of more than 100 W, apparently, simply does not exist. Replacement options:
1. Incandescent lamp 300-500 W. Works. The disadvantage is that they burn out and beat, unlike the throttle.
2. spiral from the electric stove or special infrared lamps. Works. But in the first case, the spiral is open, which does not please at a voltage of 220V. In the second case, the lamps break. In both cases, we are dealing with hot objects.
3. Connecting several electronic control units in parallel to achieve the desired power. I have repeatedly met the description and mention of such structures, I have long wanted to try it, but my hands do not reach it...

Don't you want to try an electronic app for mgl? If one says it lights up, the other can light up as well. the lamps are similar - both arc.

And we don't forget about Leda. There are already quite powerful ones. UV leda is also available, although not very effective.

This post was edited by alex017 - 25.07.2012 11: 46

Don't you want to try an electronic app for mgl? If one says it lights up, the other can light up as well. the lamps are similar - both arc.

And we don't forget about Leda. There are already quite powerful ones. UV leda is also available, although not very effective.

And I, like Bad Den, am from the DRL-schikov sect, and from the most radical branch of the split DRL. And we believe that the UV spectrum is the most important thing when fishing at night, so the LEDs go in a forest... And to the EPRA for other types of lamps, then just frankly hands do not reach

It is necessary to fight against radical sects!
If there was someone in Perm who wanted to catch and had a 150W drl, I would provide the epr for a trial run.

The most interesting thing is to use epra+pulser 12 / 220V 500W+battery 12v.

This post was edited by alex017 - 25.07.2012 12: 03

There would be in Perm who wants to catch and has a drl of 150W
....
The most interesting thing is to use epra+pulser 12 / 220V 500W+battery 12v.

DRL-125 only happens

And then where to charge the battery?

This post was edited by Bad Den - 07/25/2012 16: 44

If you go for one night, then at home. I meant a 150W lamp, the epra indicates the maximum (starting) the current is 2A, so the converter needs 500W. Ksta, epra is also good because some operate in a very wide voltage range (160-240, like there is even 110-240), but I have from 180V, they do not go out with small voltage surges.
Well, let 125, run from 150W without harming it.

This post was edited by alex017 - 25.07.2012 16: 48

And who is guided by what principles when choosing a PLACE for fishing, when fishing from a portable electric generator or a car battery?

And who is guided by what principles when choosing a PLACE for fishing, when fishing from a portable electric generator or a car battery?

This question was already raised somewhere in the topic, I remembered the following: when fishing in mountainous areas, the screen is placed as low as possible, and in the plain, respectively, higher.

This post was edited by OEV - 26.07.2012 19: 30

This question was already raised somewhere in the topic, I remembered the following: when fishing in mountainous areas, the screen is placed as low as possible, and in the plain, respectively, higher.

well, as if the terrain is not the only parameter.

I am guided by the presence of open spaces next to rich , in terms of plant species diversity, biotopes. Forest edges, clearings, clearings and roads, fields not planted with monoculture, and in my opinion away from human agro-activity, like in the textbook. But on the other hand, not being able to go anywhere, I can also catch DRL from the balcony, I did it in Tver.

I am guided by the presence of open spaces next to rich , in terms of plant species diversity, biotopes. Forest edges, clearings, clearings and roads, fields not planted with monoculture, and in my opinion away from human agro-activity, like in the textbook.

Finding a place unaffected by agriculture in central Russia is difficult. Usually these same fields in dense adjacent to the edge of the forest. Forest roads and clearings are not effective as it seems to me because of the limited horizons.
There is also such a parameter as remoteness or proximity to localities. It was once suggested that butterflies fly to the light emitted from them, so it is more efficient to catch near populated areas than near a forest. I would like to know your opinion on this issue.

I can say that catching fish from the window in the city, I sometimes collected much more than outside the city, but this is not an axiom. It also happened on a round trip. It also flew well on the forest road. I compared the catches in the Kostroma region with those in the Moscow region, as I have already mentioned, and the results were not in favor of Kostroma. Nevertheless, I would not argue that in the vicinity of the city,due to the presence of mass lighting, there are more butterflies and they fly to the city from all the surrounding biotopes. In my opinion, the dependence on the food supply is much more pronounced than the craving for a" glowing " but meager city in terms of feeding.

This post was edited by captolabrus - 27.07.2012 07: 18

And for the purity of conclusions, it is necessary to set up an experiment, a fishing point for a long time in the vicinity of the city and in a remote place, and then by comparing both the species and quantitative composition, it will be possible to draw some conclusions.

Not all butterflies fly anywhere in search of a light bulb, there are a lot of stay-at-home people and as long as you don't put this light bulb under their nose, it will never fly to it. It all depends on which species (group of species) you plan to catch - in the field one, in the oak forest, the second, and in the pine forest-the third. The determining factor is always the availability of food. You can spend the whole night shaking off buckets of banals (even if there are 50 types), or you can sit at an empty screen for the sake of one butterfly.

Dear technically competent accomplices!

Who is smart, please calculate what is the minimum core diameter for powering one 250-watt DRV lamp.

It is necessary to take a lamp with a wire on a trip-accordingly, the smaller the cross-section, the longer the wire can be taken (weight is strictly limited).

And one more question: does anyone have any experience of putting DRL/DRV lamps in the luggage compartment of an airplane and receiving them safely on arrival?