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17.12.2012 15:41, Romyald

Is this topic still alive? mol.gif You've already eaten all your liversteapot.gif, with these lamps! mad.gif.
You can catch on any lamp: DRL, DRV, split, non-split, ultraviolet (preferably more powerful smile.gif), fluorescent lamp, etc., etc....
For some reason, no one notices the insects confused.gif. In my opinion, we should ask them ( and it is better to look closely umnik.gif) when they are ready to fly to the light? confused.gif And here, just the whole question.umnik.gif:
1. Do they exist? (the coincidence of the season, a good location, a well-placed screen, in the end, the lamp power, although I repeat that this aspect is secondary. Well, at least not less than 4000K.).
2. And the presence of repellent? ( rain, light wind, pressure. These factors, in my opinion, are the most important after the season).
3. The number of light traps also affects the collection ( it is very important that the catcher is present all night, every minute, on each of them, because finding an insect in the morning, in the nearest radius, and even with poor eyesight, is quite problematicrolleyes.gif).
4. Well, and finally, the very presence of such a place ( at present, with the growth of the population and the purchase of land, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a secluded corner = that is, there is nowhere for an entomologist to stand. The only place left is on the road ( good or bad, quiet or crowded with potholes, etc.). D-O-R-O-G-A.
The screen by the road is the only window into the world of nocturnal inhabitants frown.gif, and it's a pity that they are becoming less and less, because the time allotted to a person expires with each killed corner of the Earth.
P. S. Here would be someone who came up with a lighter generator, well, at least five kilograms of dry weight. Then it would be possible to climb a mountain, or go further into the forest, so that no one interferes. And lamps - what are lamps? And the usual ones will do - 160 watts!
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17.12.2012 15:47, alex017

Throttle-free drv / throttle drl without flask is super-mega-dangerous!
It is impossible to overestimate the danger!

I'm already silent about the eyes, but even inhaling ozone during its operation is harmful!

Dear fans, take care of yourself!

The mass of the generator is large. However, do not tie yourself to the generator and the type of lamps.

There are also minimature engines for models. You can attach a generator to them.

We need to think about it....or pump your muscles.

This post was edited by alex017 - 17.12.2012 15: 50

17.12.2012 16:18, Romyald

Throttle-free drv / throttle drl without flask is super-mega-dangerous!
It is impossible to overestimate the danger!

I'm already silent about the eyes, but even inhaling ozone during its operation is harmful!

Dear fans, take care of yourself!

The mass of the generator is large. However, do not tie yourself to the generator and the type of lamps.

There are also minimature engines for models. You can attach a generator to them.

We need to think about it....or pump your muscles.

In your opinion, you need to take "miniature engines for models"confused.gif, attach a generator wink.gifto them, and this mix will weigh 2kgsmile.gif.? Yes, and still pull 160 watts! mol.gif What miracles! jump.gif You would at least once for a card drive with your invention. And we were shown how to get light! umnik.gif
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17.12.2012 16:29, alex017

I just came up with an idea.
If I fly "for cardon", then only with batteries and LEDs and a compact for a UV sterilizer (I'm not sure what I'll turn on).
You yourself want something easier, but what else can you offer? I just saw these engines on eBay. That's just what kind of generator to hang on them....

This post was edited by alex017 - 17.12.2012 16: 35

17.12.2012 18:24, Hierophis

To make a generator for 2 kg of weight and 500 W of power - in general, there is no need to do it, I wrote about it a long time ago. Such engines have long been used in aircraft modeling.
Only it will work on alcohol wink.gif
Some of us even made such engines on their own, and the Internet is full of drawings.

In addition, I am sure that if you thoroughly gut a regular generator, then you can throw out almost everything from it. The fact is that it is designed to produce used stable 220V also with sinusoid emulation, all this is not necessary for catching the light.

So if you want, everything can be done, just basically everything is consumer-friendly, they are unlikely to do anything with their pens, so I'm waiting for you to specially "invent" a superminigInirator in order to catch butterflies, but it will cost at least 1000 RUBLES wink.gif

18.12.2012 10:35, Romyald

Well, the generator for alcohol is generally a crazy idea confused.gif( where to get alcohol?, in some countries you can't buy vodka), but gutting the generator was just my first idea tongue.gif( the Endress 650 was dismantled). This process was completed by me back in 2010. umnik.gif , and has been successfully tested in Russia, Azerbaijan, Laos, Indonesia, and Australia smile.gif. The weight of the lightest four-stroke inverter today is 11 kg., after removing the parts, I got 8.5 kg. An advantage on the face, but too big cons: A constant fuss with the microcircuit ( it needs to be removed and re-mounted at each flight), a large vulnerability of the generator skeleton during flights( luggage is thrown, unprotected elements break), using the generator only under the film, because any humidity immediately disables the microcircuit. So buying a generator for 1000 euros and weighing five kg is a gift, but for this the manufacturer will have to resort to expensive materials and make the cylinder block at least from aluminum, and the pistons and calenval from titanium ( and this will already cost from 2000 euros).
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18.12.2012 12:04, headshotboy

It's fun to watch the discussion between those who catch and those who teach to catch shuffle.gif

The only way to really "facilitate" the generator is to buy a Chinese product on the spot, followed by finishing it and giving it to the guide on departure-this increases the trip budget, which is not always justified.

All sorts of delights on the topic of accumulators, model engines, etc. look cool-especially against the background of observations of Germans or Japanese armed with titanium-carbon nets, perfectly dressed and equipped - and unloading the same pood 4-stroke trucks from rented jeeps.

alex017, Hierophis - I will be very happy and will be the first to come for advice if something worthwhile hatches out of your exercises - but there is nothing to discuss without a clear field practice wink.gif
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18.12.2012 15:10, Romyald

In a good way, you need to carry the generator with you ( if you catch it on the spot for no more than a month). It is not always possible to buy a "Chinese". In Colombia, an English-speaking guide and I (and this guide saw what we needed, my disassembled Enderss in Colombia ran out, or rather the microchip I didn't take in stock ran out) were looking for a "Chinese" for half a day, and we were completely desperate to find it.
Thanks to my intuition, I myself "smelled" the desired object. And, what we were not offered on the market: a cultivator, a tractor, and a chainsaw, even offered to buy a "generator" the size of a fountain pen. In general, this story will pull on a whole bike. Here I am a fool, I should have provided you with photos of how we were looking for a generator in Colombia. But then there was no laughing matter, either we were idiots ( we didn't explain well), or the Colombians were morons ( we didn't go to school at all), we couldn't get what we wanted.
And also, I imagine buying a generator in Australia, where the "Chinese" are not liked, and where a cup of coffee costs 10 euros. That's where you can definitely get the loot, because the standard of living there starts from 4500 pupaars. generators may not be there at all, and if they are, they will certainly not be "Chinese", and they will cost accordingly.
And as for handing the generator over to the guide, you noticed this coolly. I always try to do this if I have to buy a generator on the spot.
And so, between you and me, all these push-pull trucks are such a mess, I don't know how Uncle Vitya sometimes uses them? It can stall for no reason at any time. And you can get tired of delving into the problem that caused it to stall: either it overheated, or the carburetor clogged, or the candle was thrown, or what else does it need? A four-stroke car is 90 percent predictable. If it doesn't start, there is no gasoline, low oil level, bad spark plug, kapets microchip and all. Yes, we should also give him a rest once every four hours. Like that's it? And he drinks gasoline not in cans, like a "Chinese two-stroke", but in faceted cups, like a Russian milling worker, after a hard day's work.
In general, friends, I summarize this forum. If you are fishing in your homeland, then do not worry-just buy a "kilowatnik", and hang on it two lamps ( well, of course not split) of 250 watts. Well, if you decide to become a "special forces", then you need to carry the generator with you, preferably up to 11 kg. ( otherwise, you will have to pay for your luggage), and three lamps of 160 watts will be enough for your eyes ( one in reserve). It is better to go together - you can disperse the cargo ( no more).
With careful handling of the generator (four-stroke), it will save you money, nerves, and time.

18.12.2012 15:25, Romyald

My entire story is suitable for budget trips-up to 120,000 rubles. wink.gif For low-budget trips, you can beat the Germans and Japanese combinedrolleyes.gif, buy a five-kilo truck, throw it in a helicopter and make a fool of yourself in the backwoods jungle mad.gif. Insects will always remember such hunters weep.gif. And yet, you can rent a Mitsubishi MG230 or Volvoumnik.gif, and stupidly follow the equipment along the clearing and collect any insects, without any problems jump.gif. And at night, ask the driver to clean up half a hectare for night fishingmol.gif, and kill locusts wall.gif. There are many options, but only one possibility. tongue.gif

18.12.2012 18:35, Hierophis

  

All sorts of delights on the topic of accumulators, model engines, etc. look cool-especially against the background of observations of Germans or Japanese armed with titanium-carbon nets, perfectly dressed and equipped - and unloading the same pood 4-stroke trucks from rented jeeps.



Consumerism is such a wink.gifconsumerism that they can carry at least VL 85 on a trailer, they don't carry it on a hump. And the generators of their poods see porters pull? So then without questions, again, so you can CLIMB into the thicket and roll out on any mountain-not on your hump wink.gif
Of course, it is ridiculous to compare a lead battery with a generator, with the battery power consumption of 200 W per kg )))

And yet, I very much doubt that the Japanese will pull a 4-stroke drygatel hailing from the shaggy Middle Ages in their glamorous butterfly-shaped voyages, Despite wink.gifthe fact that there have long been batteries on sale that have almost reached the power consumption of gasoline-up to 7 kW per 1 kilogram of battery weight! From a kilogram battery, two DRL 400 will shine all night. Prices are also Japanese, but, damn Clinton, this is Japan, where in 10 years the gas jumper will be a museum exhibit, and such a battery will be in the calculator, and here everything will be the old-fashioned 4-stroke engines to catch butterflies wink.gif

UPD-I decided to try to calculate the efficiency of these generators of yours wink.gif
If you estimate so favorite here 4x generator, then we look-the weight of the clunker is about 10 kg, plus we accept that 2 liters of gasoline are filled in there, another 1.6 kg. The total purely theoretical energy intensity of gasoline is 12 kW/kg, the efficiency of the drygatel is the most ideal-30%, as a result of 19 kW, as a result of this generator with 2 liters of gasoline we will be able to get no more than 6 kW, and if we throw off all the ideals, then I think no more than 4.5 kW smile.gif
Well, does this fit in with practice, alas. professional catchers?
And so - how much do we have the energy efficiency of a highly respected 4x generator? 4.5 divided by 11.6.... equals 380W per kilogram!! against the upd of 130 W per kg of lead(in reality, no more than 50, alas, I calculated using the example of conventional batteries for the population frown.gif) a lithium-ion battery has 300W/kg per kg(in reality, it seems like up to 130W per kg)!
Your copper!

YOUR COPPER!!!! To still carry IT ))))

18.12.2012 18:39, Hierophis

Yes, I was already surprised, is it really only 400W with a kilogram for a gasoline generator? True, initially I incorrectly remembered the capacity of lithium and lead batteries, but everything is lazy, I thought it was much worse smile.gif
Although this is all a theory, you need to know how much a real not-so-bad generator will actually work for a load during a certain amount of time on a certain amount of gasoline, and then you can calculate exactly the real value of energy intensity.

18.12.2012 20:06, alex017

Well, what are you swearing about, our society is such a consumer society.
You must understand that everyone is in different weight categories, both in terms of income and muscle strength.
Ultra-super-mega cool catcher has no fun doing electronics, in parallel, the two hobbies rarely co-exist.

If you consider all sorts of efficiencies, then it's not time to forget about arc lamps (not split)? I understand that pricked ones are given in excess, but their danger is incomparable.
Ignition current mgl 150W - 2 Amperes at epra! Where is this suitable in systems with limited power?!
Those. when the lamp is lit, it eats 2 times more, hence the power reserve required, which you need to carry on yourself.
About the throttle, too, do not forget, without it-nowhere. Few people know about epra.

And one more thing: everyone sets different goals. Our consumer society wants thousands of trapped insects. Why?! Because the consumer society should correspond to the name and only. That says it all.

Everyone dragging a genarator across thousands of kilometers should be awarded a medal for bravery and cover events like traveling around the world on an inflatable single-person boat!

18.12.2012 20:48, Hierophis

EPR for DRL is why, the usual capacitor will go. And despite the fact that they give out inverter generators in the throttle in general, all gasoline is burned ))) And in general DRL is some kind of fetish here, it's not clear what is bright, well, so you can take 10 economok for 38W, at a price almost like DRL with a drosslem)

18.12.2012 23:12, headshotboy

Insects will always remember such hunters weep.gif. And yet, you can rent a Mitsubishi MG230 or Volvoumnik.gif, and stupidly follow the equipment along the clearing and collect any insects, without any problems jump.gif. And at night, ask the driver to clean up half a hectare for night fishingmol.gif, and kill locusts wall.gif.

Fortunately, after all, people do not really use such opportunities - otherwise there would be really nowhere to catch them frown.gif
Yes, and fishing areas are often located in all sorts of dumb and protected areas, etc. - in addition to barbels and shovels, a capture group can also fly to such a large-scale light sound. Tropicans are often comparable to the Kalash in size, but they are also very comparable in character, and most importantly, they are used to first give a couple of bursts, and then sort it out wink.gif

(((Although I know people who in Venezuela and Indonesia did not particularly fool around and agreed directly with the Ministry of Defense - and local soldiers gave them not only all the necessary transport and camp equipment, but also armed escorts.
But it was all for oh-oh-very extra moneyshuffle.gif - so extra that I even hesitated to ask the amountlol.gif - that is, it goes exactly under the category of "extra-budgetary" tripswink.gif
It was, however, about 10 years ago, but it was.
)))

19.12.2012 2:12, KONI

Hello all participants .For two years of studying this topic (both theoretically and practically)While wandering around our beloved Primorye, my son and I came to an unambiguous conclusion:A DRV-250 lamp, an E-40 cartridge, 20m of wire and a 400w 12v-220v inverter.We drive around our region by car,and there are exits from the roads everywhere.We move out,set up the screen, connect and catch it. Beauty!!! Before that, they pulled this two-stroke piece of iron, gasoline, a frame for the screen and other schmurdyak on the hump, trying to reach the unattainable,and the result was much worse.We're just resting now. We also strongly advise you not to engage in inventing the impossible, something never comes out of nothing.This is an axiom. Sincerely, Konstantin and Alexander.

19.12.2012 2:24, lepidopterolog

I also don't really understand the point of dragging the generator on trips where you rent a car anyway, when you can safely catch it through the inverter. Personally, I always do this if my companions and I take a car.

19.12.2012 3:56, KONI

To lepidopterolog;Конечно.And this is natural.With a car, it's much more mobile and easier; if you want to, you move. And with a collapsible screen frame, this is done quickly. The flight of butterflies to light near the road and in the wilds( where, leaving the car, they waded through the taiga, dragging all the junk on themselves, and becoming soldered to this place until the morning) is almost the same,and in 40% of cases even better(due to the more open space and, accordingly, greater coverage of the area by your source). sveta). We realized this and stopped further both physically and materially intensive experiments
With respect Konstantin and Alexander.

19.12.2012 9:32, Romyald

I also don't really understand the point of dragging the generator on trips where you rent a car anyway, when you can safely catch it through the inverter. Personally, I always do this if my companions and I take a car.

And the meaning is simple umnik.gif. My first generator ( as I wrote Endress 650), was dismantled to reduce weight, and served me for 6 years. On average, I had two trips abroad a year. The arithmetic is simple - an on-site generator costs $ 150. ( in the best case, I still do not count spending money on his search), I rent or exchange him for a guide, at the end of the trip, at best for $ 50 - a loss of $ 100 .Accordingly, two trips cost me $ 200, and in 5 years this amount has already grown to $ 1000. A Chinese portable inverter ( Endress, Kipor class) I bought it for $ 300.- save $ 700. I do not consider its use at home, plus the lack of time spent searching in fishing spots, calm nerves, light weight, always having the necessary tools for repairs, etc., etc., etc. Perhaps if I was traveling in a crowd, I would certainly use the generator on the spot, but for the first time, I will never forget, we left the guide as many as two generators in Papua (for $ 170) for free. And nothing in exchange, even drown these generators. So huge was his appetite. After this trip ( by the way, my very first trip), I decided that in the future I will be as autonomous as possible. He built a collapsible screen, bought the lightest generator, and became a member of the entomological special forces. These are the pies. shuffle.gif
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19.12.2012 9:43, Romyald

I forgot to report back. Earlier this year, I bought a Kipor 650. I didn't take it apart this time. I've already written why. I paid 9500r for it. At the moment, two trips are already behind us-Turkey and Caledonia. If we assume that I had to spend $ 150 on each trip, then I have already paid for the generator. Next time I'll go for free. These are economy class trips. jump.gif
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19.12.2012 10:46, alex017

To each his own. I'm just interested in trying out alternative fishing methods.
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19.12.2012 15:18, Romyald

To each his own. I'm just interested in trying out alternative fishing methods.

You catch in Russia. confused.gif At homejump.gif, you can try to catch by any means umnik.gif.
And there mol.gif. There you need to catch for sure mad.gif! There is no one to advise or help frown.gif, you have to rely only on yourselfwall.gif.

19.12.2012 15:57, lepidopterolog

Roman, we probably didn't understand each other, I'm talking about an inverter-a small box that is cheap, tinkers with itself on an expedition, sticks into the cigarette lighter and completely replaces the generator, and not about buying a generator on the spot smile.gif

19.12.2012 15:57, El Cazador

Romyald, if you have a literary talent (among others), be sure to include writing a memoir in your plan. I'm the first buyer.
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19.12.2012 18:04, Romyald

Romyald, if you have a literary talent (among others), be sure to include writing a memoir in your plan. I'm the first buyer.

Come on, don't be ridiculous wink.gif. In literature, I have a strong three umnik.gif( I make a lot of mistakes), and my thoughts run ahead of the locomotive shuffle.gif( sometimes I don't have time for them myself).
But I'm a really good storyteller yes.gif, I'll tell you everything from the beginning to the end, a little with the mainland tongue.gif. For color umnik.gif.

19.12.2012 18:38, Romyald

Roman, we probably didn't understand each other, I'm talking about an inverter-a small box that costs cheap, takes care of itself on an expedition, sticks into the cigarette lighter and completely replaces the generator, and not about buying a generator on the spot smile.gif

Well, I'm sorry if I didn't understand smile.gif. On this topic, I will say this: in 90 cases out of 100, I had to shed 500 meters from the road (at best), and then what is the point of planting a battery, or burning gasoline cars confused.gif? It is always more logical to pour a glass per hour and calmly catch, and at the same time, be as independent as possible.
I wouldn't have brought anything back from Caledonia at all if I'd been tied to the length of the wire. Locals are so curious that you need to talk to everyone, show them pictures, make a smart look, you can even put on glasses like a professor cool.gifto create an image .
I'll never forget how it was in Sulawesi (Punchak Polopo) I amused the curious young people ( about fifteen people) with all sorts of stories about makendu ( in their n.....), and parampuan (in their woman). So try having a vocabulary of a dozen words to communicate for half an hour with people who don't know what's on their mind.
In general, friends-generator, generator, and generator again umnik.gif. There is no other choice yet frown.gif.

This post was edited by Romyald - 12/19/2012 18: 39
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19.12.2012 19:11, lepidopterolog

Well, gasoline at idle is not particularly consumed, and the battery is also not that much sootsmile.gif, of course the problem, you can not argue, sometimes they come to the light of a headlamp or a gasoline burner, as we had this year in Turkish Kurdistan.

19.12.2012 19:26, alex017

You catch in Russia. At home, you can try to catch by any means.
And there you need to catch for sure! There is no one to advise and help, you have to rely only on yourself.


And what is the point of me catching the light in Russia? Only butterflies will be born in Perm. And where should I put them? I am interested in insects exclusively in live form. It would be nice to find someone who would be at least necessary and interesting, a partner, and one cold summer night to sit in a clearing in front of the forest, look at the monotonous gray moths and feed yourself a horde of mosquitoes....Nooo, thank you! (probably this year I will still dare...)
In Tae, I will catch for getting to know the world of local insects more closely, it's interesting, the set is much wider there and it's more comfortable outside at night!

The question is a little off topic, but maybe someone knows where to get a decent net for a net, such as one that is put on aquarium nets? Such a net would help me to catch both in the sea and on land. Preferably a link to ibey....

19.12.2012 19:33, Romyald

Well, gasoline at idle is not particularly consumed, and the battery is also not that much sootsmile.gif, of course the problem, you can not argue, sometimes they come to the light of a headlamp or a gasoline burner, as we had this year in Turkish Kurdistan.

Have you even fished in Kurdistan? eek.gifCool! mol.gif This is the fourth danger point, after Afghanistan, Pakistan and Somalia. I went there too this year. They took us by the n.... u mad.gifon the second night, five kilometers from Lake Baikal (Sirte ave.), they really wanted to catch Davidi. But.... frown.gifThe plan was to go beyond Yuksekova, somehow in sl. times. When I have time, I'll write a story about it.

19.12.2012 20:59, lepidopterolog

In the fishing reports it was somewhere even, here in the LiveJournal report http://lepidopterolog.livejournal.com/19904.html smile.gif We were fishing in Van in July-August, when massive fighting started in Hakkari and the province was closed down, but we also had a good ride in Van, collected excellent material, although it's weird there, of course, troops, fighter jets are flying towards Syria, local skirmishes smile.gifOnce they also tried to take us for illegal fishing. we quickly went to the mountains) Davidi-Akbesia is meant?

19.12.2012 23:57, Hierophis

Have you even fished in Kurdistan? eek.gifCool! mol.gif This is the fourth danger point, after Afghanistan, Pakistan and Somalia. I went there too this year. They took us by the n.... u mad.gifon the second night, five kilometers from Lake Baikal (Sirte ave.), they really wanted to catch Davidi. But.... frown.gifThe plan was to go beyond Yuksekova, somehow in sl. times. When I have time, I'll write a story about it.


This message is a masterpiecesmile.gif, especially if you think about it abstractly - it's just a complete P!
It's even scary to imagine, so to speak, the process of detention, or in the author's words, taking, for a certain P.... y, and all this is flavored with such phrases as Somalia, hot spot, second night, catch Davidi(first name, last name?)...
What is this P. and such, otkudova took (asya?) , and what were the consequences of such a takeover-it will be obvious in subsequent series and bikes wink.gif
Nabokov-style plot probably)

20.12.2012 4:13, KONI

For lepidopterolog. A little hint about the inverter.As a car mechanic, I advise you not to include the inverter in the cigarette lighter, but connect it directly to the battery.So it is more reliable and better for the car and for the inverter itself.
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20.12.2012 6:45, alex017

This message is a masterpiece


Why are you so indignant?
The entomologist arrived at a point where there is a good overview, a light wind, the surrounding area is clearly visible and the approaches to the point are visible.
I set up my rifle and adjusted the optics.
Then, from the wreckage of the tank, he welded the screen frame, adjusted the searchlight.
And began to catch! There were Kurds, Syrians, Arabs and other residents of local tribes. Some survivors had to tell stories about p...u, and then still finish off.
After a successful hunt, we had to retreat to the mountains, because NATO troops came to the aid of the local population.
Entomologists from Russia are a terrible force, a bulwark and pride of the country! mol.gif

20.12.2012 9:59, Коллекционер

lol.gif

20.12.2012 11:19, Alexandr Zhakov

  
Entomologists from Russia are a terrible force, a bulwark and pride of the country! mol.gif

Not entomologists, but entomological special forces. tongue.gif

20.12.2012 13:58, Romyald

Thanks for the compliment. mol.gif Welcome to the entomological Special Forces. jump.gif

20.12.2012 22:43, headshotboy

Oh, how the theme became animated under the influence of Romyald! lol.gif
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21.12.2012 21:48, Wave Storm

If there is a short-circuit protection, then you can not be afraid...
Last season, I caught it on diodes, connected it to the acc. directly.
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Oh, so that's very encouraging. I think to take either a diode tube, or a tape like yours, or a UV luminescent tube.

okoem, and in comparison with other light sources, the results of catching on such LEDs are better or worse? More insects flying or less?

22.12.2012 0:31, okoem

 
okoem, and in comparison with other light sources, the results of catching on such LEDs are better or worse? More insects flying or less?

As already mentioned, the number of years depends primarily not on the type of lamp, but on a set of conditions that determine the activity of insects. On a good night, it flies on not too bright diodes, on a bad night it is empty and near the DRL. In general, in the village, it flies well on the DRL250, in nature it flies perfectly on the DRL125. Years per diodes will obviously be determined by the brightness/number of diodes.

I tried several times to catch on the UV housekeeper + DRL250, but almost all the butterflies flew to the DRL, there was almost nothing near the UV.
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22.12.2012 8:57, alex017

ooh housekeeper "this?"
Or this type?
picture: ________.jpg
Probably the last type, so it flew weakly. Still would compare this nedosvetilku with drl!))
It is necessary to use UV lamps for UV sterilizers, there are special. transparent glass for uv and there is really a lot of UV. I bought an 18W compact, I'm waiting.
SD tapes are very weak, the diodes there shine at 10% of their real power, I once calculated. It is necessary to make assemblies on radiators with fans and drive at a current close to the maximum, 2-3A.

22.12.2012 10:13, okoem

UGH-this?
Or this type?

Spiral tube, see the topic above.

It is necessary to make assemblies on radiators with fans and drive at a current close to the maximum, 2-3A.
Diodes to drive at the maximum current of 3A-barbarism. Dam 1.5 A.
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Now build and test. Yes, but you have to wait at least six months weep.gif
Last season, I caught it on diodes, connected it to the acc. directly.
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It's fun to watch the discussion between those who catch and those who teach to catch shuffle.gif

alex017, ... - I will be very happy and will be the first to come running for advice if something worthwhile comes out of your exercises - but there is nothing to discuss without a clear field practice wink.gif
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Photos of representatives Insecta.

Detailed insects classification with references list.

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