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22.12.2012 16:23, Hierophis

Soooo, while here they tell scary stories about Poo, while some wait half a year, and some like to hint that since you didn't catch butterflies, then you're zero, I'm slowly preparing for the opening of the season, because it can start in the new year)))

By the way, here some experts argued that the parallel connection of batteries is so sinful...
So, they seem to have become like those whom they criticize so much for their lack of practice wink.gif
Connecting two new batteries in parallel, I did not fix the equalizing current in general!
A complete zero. And the voltage was absolutely equal up to 4 digits.
What's the problem?
And the fact is that it turns out that a parallel connection is generally a connection of preference both when charging and when discharging.
With a serial connection, there are even more problems, and moreover purely practical ones, namely the reverse polarity of the weakest bank.

When connecting a 28W housekeeper, 12V12A/h batteries last for about 6 hours of operation if discharged to 10.5 V under load.
The weight of two 6V 12Ah accumulators is about 3.7 kg.
For a one-day hike just for fun to see who is flying, and to provide all sorts of electricity needs, it will do)

But in general, this is on a large battery, and for fishing I plan to buy 12V 7Ah, I think it's quite possible to shine for 4 hours, and the weight is about 1.8 kg, you can take a pedestrian outing.
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22.12.2012 20:09, Hierophis

Bourgeois entomologist went to catch butterflies..
The entomologist went to catch butterflies, and his generator followed him ))))
Surely there's a 4X gas generator inside, otherwise it can't be smile.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNUeSUXOc-w#t=15

22.12.2012 20:14, alex017

Oh, this is a nightmare! I imagine myself with such a generator! Although....I would probably sit on top of him.

22.12.2012 20:41, Hierophis

The nightmare is this!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYSStF4fqc

In general, I read that they have already developed a battery with an energy capacity of about 10 kW per 1 kg. If the power sources are improved, then soon there will be robots everywhere, since now the problem is only in batteries.
Here a person spends about 3 kW of power per day and its total energy intensity is probably about 15-20 kW, that is, only about 250 W per kg of weight, approximately like a lithium battery smile.giffor 5 days without food with physical activity - and that's it, the batteries will run out of a person)
So, on a kilogram battery of a new sample, you can make a robot of approx. 30kg in weight, which can show strength activity for a day without recharging. Tinplate! The Terminators are coming)))

24.12.2012 11:50, alex017

Rather, they would have come already and ...

24.12.2012 12:24, Hierophis

Yes, the bourgeois terminators will not reach you, the Yapon electrons will not withstand frosts and will freeze in the wires ))))

24.12.2012 12:30, alex017

Well, I will sit and be sad until mid-April
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24.12.2012 13:10, headshotboy

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24.12.2012 16:36, Bad Den

Then it's better - compact from tropelectronicwink.gif-watts like that for 55 or 85 shuffle.gif


Can I get a link?

24.12.2012 22:38, headshotboy

Can I get a link?

For example - http://www.aquapro-m.ru/uv_sterilizatory_i...ectronic_1.html

These are, in fact, aquarium sterilizers used on large systems.
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25.12.2012 7:26, alex017

So I wrote about the lamps from such sterilizers. And I bought an 18W compact for a UV sterilizer.

25.12.2012 23:11, headshotboy

First, Trop Electronic does not have 18W lamps in principle - the minimum power of their products is 55W.

Secondly, I do not know what you call a "compact for a UV sterilizer" (these UV compacts are now very different-in bulk, they are united only by their utter uselessness in practical terms), but in this case the lamps themselves are something like metal halide.
I once looked for them separately, from OEMs (because the price of Trop Electronic was somewhat demotivated), but practically in vain. I found something similar, but I didn't agree with the supplier, and I never found out whether it was "that" or "not that".

26.12.2012 4:58, alex017

Yandex. Mail....so an ll lamp without a phosphor is a drl without a bulb!
I have two aquarium UV sterilizers, I probably saw the lamps. And this is exactly what I bought, only in the form of a compact.

05.01.2013 18:50, vafdog

let's talk about screens
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tell us who installs the screen
how and what devices you use (such as sticks and ropes).
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This post was edited by vafdog - 05.01.2013 18: 52

05.01.2013 19:41, niyaz

  let's talk about screens
                                  cool.gif
tell us who installs the screen
how and what devices you use (such as sticks and ropes).
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Clothespins are our everything. umnik.gif

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05.01.2013 19:59, vafdog

you can't attach a clothespin to the air tongue.gif

05.01.2013 20:06, alex017

Well, a harness, a rope, a rope, a thick fishing line. Не?

05.01.2013 20:20, AGG

a rag, an axe, clothespins, and a long rope. I've never fished in the" bare " steppe and other areas, but I think you can find something handy there, sometimes they pulled it between two cars. and so, any planting will give you a lot of material wink.gif
I pull the rope in a triangle to hang both the lamp and the screen, or, if there is no suitable branch for pulling under the lamp, I cut down a pole with a side knot, or, if the rope is short, I make the ceiling for the lamp from a pole.
and if in a locality, then just on the wall of the house/the shed.
I do not see the problem confused.gifof course, depending on where to catch wink.gifin general in this topic about screens was och a lot yes.gif
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05.01.2013 20:25, alex017

Something game is not enough....

05.01.2013 20:28, niyaz

You can use clothespins to:
1) attach the screen to the rope,
2) attach the cable from the lamp to the rope.
3) attach a cellophane bag to a rope to protect the lamp from rain, etc.
4) fix the gap between the lamp base and the screen so that the lamp does not burn through it.
5) other less important actions.
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05.01.2013 20:30, AGG

when there is game, it is not up to the camera wink.gif
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05.01.2013 20:37, okoem

I've never fished in the "bare" steppe or other areas,

In the steppe, the easiest way is to simply put the screen on the ground. smile.gif But if there is at least some bush, you can make a delay from it to the soil and hang the screen. Also in the steppe stretched the screen between the steering wheel and the trunk of a scooter. smile.gif
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05.01.2013 20:40, Alexandr Zhakov

a rag, an axe, clothespins, and a long rope. I've never fished in the" bare " steppe and other areas, but I think you can find something handy there, sometimes they pulled it between two cars. and so, any planting will give you a lot of material wink.gif

Clothespins, extremely not serious, any wind will instantly tear them off,and you can not spread the screen.

05.01.2013 20:55, AGG

As far as I understand...
???

that's right, but usually I attach the end to the branch of tree No. 1, the main thing is that from the screen to the lamp there is 30-50 cm
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05.01.2013 20:58, AGG

Clothespins, extremely not serious, any wind will instantly tear them off,and you can not spread the screen.

5 clothespins and the loaded bottom has never been torn off, sometimes I use a screen with ropes tied at the corners, it's all about practice and ingenuity wink.gif

05.01.2013 21:00, Hierophis

And that the tent is no longer suitable in the steppe as a base, if the light is on in it, then a bunch of all sorts of animals gather outside, and this is in a rather dim light. And if you put a sheet on top of the tent )))

vafdog, the main thing is to have the courage to get out somewhere at night, and where and how to hang a sheet is always found wink.gif
Another option is to buy three telescopic fishing rods, that's all the casessmile.gif, two for the sheets, one for the light bulb.
There are a lot of advantages - support the communist economy of China, you will protect nature - you will not cut branches, after fishing you can go to the river at the morning dawn to catch fish wink.gif

05.01.2013 21:04, Alexandr Zhakov

And that the tent is no longer suitable in the steppe as a base, if the light is on in it, then a bunch of all sorts of animals gather outside, and this is in a rather dim light. And if you put a sheet on top of the tent )))

vafdog, the main thing is to have the courage to get out somewhere at night, and where and how to hang a sheet is always found wink.gif
Another option is to buy three telescopic fishing rods, that's all the casessmile.gif, two for the sheets, one for the light bulb.
There are a lot of advantages - you will support the communist economy of China, you will protect nature - you will not cut branches, after fishing you can go to the river at the morning dawn to catch fish wink.gif

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05.01.2013 21:07, Alexandr Zhakov

  5 clothespins and the loaded bottom have not yet been torn off, sometimes I use a screen with ropes tied at the corners, it's all about practice and ingenuity wink.gif

Where do you fish?, or only in complete calm? Sometimes the screen has to be removed when 4 additional stretch marks fail.

05.01.2013 21:14, vafdog

 
Another option is to buy three telescopic fishing rods, that's all the casessmile.gif, two for the sheets, one for the light bulb.
There are a lot of advantages - you will support the communist economy of China, you will protect nature - you will not cut branches, after fishing you can go to the river at the morning dawn to catch fish wink.gif

I've been thinking about it. but what happens if you dig them into the ground and stretch the screen, they are probably somewhat flexible

05.01.2013 21:19, AGG

Where do you fish?, or only in complete calm? Sometimes the screen has to be removed when 4 additional stretch marks do not hold.

I catch warheads in the Tambov and Lipetsk regions - we have a hard time with hurricanes here, especially in the forest weep.gif lol.gifand if a strong wind blows, it's easier to let go of the bottom for a while, let the screen fly and in the meantimebeer.gif, and when the wind weakens, then load/tie back wink.gif

05.01.2013 21:21, Hierophis

Everything will be fine, you do not need to dig in, otherwise anything will not hold, you need to insert wooden stakes into the chest of drawers and stick them to a depth of 40 cm. And of course not to stick out the first two knees. And you can tie the tips together, you get an arch+ extra. rigidity, the lamp can be hung there and you can catch it even in a hurricane, in general, there are a lot of options )))
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05.01.2013 21:23, AGG

I've been thinking about it. but what happens if you dig them into the ground and stretch the screen, they are probably somewhat flexible

Have you ever fished at night in the field / forest? if not, then look through this topic-everything has been written and discussed here for a long time. and various screen materials and designs and sources. what is the point of transferring from empty to empty confused.gif

06.01.2013 13:03, Egorus

for vafdog Young man, do not try to stick a stick inserted in a lump in the ground to a depth of 40 cm. - this may cause injuries to the hands, abdomen or face. I'm serious.
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06.01.2013 13:33, Yu.GER

Of course, not all types of insects are able to fly in strong winds. But, in the highlands of the Carpathians, some hawks and scoops fly, or rather try to fly, and more crawl and "jump", that is, they fly short distances low above the ground in the direction of light, even at 15 m/s. At 10 m / s, the same thing was observed in the steppe in Prisivashye and in the Donbass. And on the balcony in a strong wind, of course, little can fly. From there, and such beliefs.

06.01.2013 14:08, okoem

There were few lights in the wind. On the balcony (5th floor) with a strong wind almost never flew anything. The hirta I observed, indeed, could not fly very much, they "jumped" on the ground.
In addition, I noticed that almost nothing rises to the 5th floor in March, April and early May. "Summer on the balcony" starts around mid-May and lasts until mid-October. In the second half of autumn, the butterflies again stop rising so high (but at ground level - they fly).
In addition, I noticed that in the spring, those few butterflies that still reach the 5th floor never fly to the DRL-250, which hangs on the balcony, but only fly to the tubular LDS, which is located in the room near the window. The situation is similar in late autumn.

06.01.2013 14:36, Yu.GER

I agree with you 100%. I observed the same thing. In early spring and late autumn, the time of birth differs significantly from the rest of the year. Last year, I had the opportunity to catch both on the balcony of the 5th floor and on the wall (the lamp hung at 1.8 m from the ground). The night is warm, with a weak wind, the lamps are the same-DRL-250. Periodically ran from one lamp to another. And as a result, I was surprised by a very significant difference in the species composition of what flew at different heights. In particular, various micro and Geometridae flew almost exclusively at the bottom, while Catocala and some other dendrobiont scoops (Agrochola, Conistra, etc.) flew at the top. However, this phenomenon in Ukraine was already investigated by Lebedev at one time. But there are still a lot of questions.

08.01.2013 19:33, alex017

People, I'm going to cool 4 leds, the total power is 12V 1A.
Requires a radiator with a cooler. The dimensions of all LEDs on the stars are 32x32mm.
I think you need a computer radiator, such as for the processor.
A lens with a reflector will be attached to this contraption. The lens size is f80mm.

Just a ribbed radiator with an area of 80x80mm and a height of 20-25 mm is desirable, I will find a cooler in local stores.

10.01.2013 16:55, niyaz

I looked for a frame for the screen to carry in the car-a collapsible floor hanger from Ikea http://catalog.ikea-dostavka.ru/ru/ru/cata...ducts/16684783/ . In case there is no place to stretch the rope, and you don't want to climb into the bushes and scratch the car. What do you think are the main disadvantages of such a framework?

10.01.2013 17:38, vasiliy-feoktistov

I looked for a frame for the screen to carry in the car-a collapsible floor hanger from Ikea http://catalog.ikea-dostavka.ru/ru/ru/cata...ducts/16684783/ . In case there is no place to stretch the rope, and you don't want to climb into the bushes and scratch the car. What do you think are the main disadvantages of such a framework?

In my opinion, the number 1 drawback is the stand: it will not be stable everywhere. It is better to design it yourself, depending on the conditions of use.

10.01.2013 17:45, okoem

I want to share my "additional" method of fishing for light.
Outside the house, at the entrance to the entrance, there was an ordinary lighting lamp covered with a plafond. I looked at it, looked at it, and decided that this almost ready-made "light trap" can and should be improved. I went to the Empire of Light store, bought a small-sized housekeeper 15 Watts, cold white. In a nearby store selling fasteners, I bought hexagon head screws.
I replaced the incandescent lamp with a housekeeper. To make it more difficult for local fans to take someone else's things to get to the lamp, the "ordinary" screws that were screwed on the ceiling were replaced with "hex"ones.
As a result, the lamp has been on every day for the second year, and I always look at the wall when passing by - sometimes something comes across. For example -
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1375757
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