Features of light catching

And I recently like this I bought an LED light.
It shines pretty well at home. And 9 hours of work. Maybe it is also suitable for fishing.

0.5 w of ice...why did you waste your money? There are powerful Leda, you need to take them and make lanterns yourself. They shine very decently. Lumens are specified, which means that the lights can be compared better/worse. And all these toys will die quickly, but they cost a lot, they don't pull on disposable ones at the price.

I think everyone roughly represents how a 100W incandescent lamp shines. Similarly, the 10W dumb Chinese SD card shines. It gives about 1000lm. It takes up very little space. My photos are shown above. Why the hell do you need this huge 0.5 W LED lamp? Pick up, get the battery, built-in charger, the rest-throw out.

This post was edited by alex017 - 31.01.2013 20: 49

0.5 w of ice...why did you waste your money? There are powerful Leda, you need to take them and make lanterns yourself. They shine very decently. Lumens are specified, which means that the lights can be compared better/worse. And all these toys will die quickly, but they cost a lot, they don't pull on disposable ones at the price.

Yes, I first bought it, and then I looked at how much power people have in this topic. But it'll do for the house.

In general, as for homemade luminaries, I found here is such a homemade product with the ability to calculate the circuit depending on the number of diodes. That's just not clear to me: you can power them from the converter, which has already been posted in this topic?

Look links which I gave!
There is a fully ready-to-use kit!
It is really durable, and not like bullshit from the penny ancient sd.
And the 12V driver. Why do you need 220V?! The driver can be nati any power and sd too.

Have you ever seen a decent 9-10W power bank with a built-in reflector? These are excellent light sources. They can be powered from the circuit on your link, collecting everything in the case of a huge LED lamp. The lantern will turn out great, but it's probably too weak for fishing.

Wave Storm, it's all very easy to do now, you don't need anything at all, just a diode and a 6V lead battery. In fact, you don't even need any resistors there. We have these diodes on the market and in stores, it costs approx. 40 UAH.
http://radioskot.ru/publ/svetodiody/svetodiod_5_vt/3-1-0-147
http://www.kosmodrom.com.ua/data/light/led...20%C2%F2&page=0

The converter is needed to connect a couple of economizers on 38W or DRLku/MG 150-250W, otherwise there is no sense from it.

Maybe it is also suitable for fishing.

You can catch anything you want. Only it will fly to different sources in different ways.

  
I found such a homemade product with the ability to calculate the circuit depending on the number of diodes. That's just not clear to me: you can power them from the converter, which has already been posted in this topic?

- This homemade fishing gear is not very suitable, because all the diodes shine in one direction.
- You didn't look carefully, this is a converter from 12 V to high voltage (about 300 - 400 V). For powering diodes, it does not work sideways....

If you want to make a homemade fishing device, place diodes on the sphere so that they shine in all directions. Diodes should be selected with the widest possible angle of illumination.

In order for the LEDs to shine on the sphere, in theory, you need to take an ordinary frosted bulb from an incandescent lamp and cover it with a diode assembly, despite all the jokes, the light transmission through it is up to 95%, the dispersion is capital. Yes, and special dispersion caps for diode lamps are already being sold with might and main.

I don't want to argue, do you think people are not very smart who put drivers in ordinary flashlights? You can do anything, but everything has pros and cons. The SD must be used with a resistor or driver. There is no other option. If you want to run experiments on your own wallet , please do so.

And in general, soldering 12-220V is not worth it at all. It's easier to buy something ultra cheap on ibei.

By the way, what's the big deal about the sphere? For example, you sat down by the forest and pointed the lantern in its direction. And why in the field?
Well, in the sphere so in the sphere, I put together 4 radiators, on top of 1 cooler and 4sd for 10W. Here you go in all directions. Why shine into the earth and sky?

As long as I see the photo, one side of the lamp is facing the screen. I.e. nafig no one needs a sphere. A wide angle of about 100-120 degrees is almost all sd. Shirshe is not necessary)

I have all diodes without resistors, why is it needed if the voltage is in the range? Waste of skin
You can buy everything, but it's boring and expensive and tedious, so my attempts ended with this - the first one is true with other transistors, so up to 350W max, with the connection of DRL and MG, the second one is up to 150W, DC current for economists. Well, it cost about $ 10 if you take into account all the experiments with the departure of keys a couple of times)))

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Here, somewhere, they laid out the converter circuit from 12 to 360 volts from the parts of the computer power supply.I assembled, connected a lead battery to it and a UV tube through the EPRA feron. But the light in the lyumka for some reason waves goes, sways...What could be the problem? The energy-saving compacts connected to it did not have this.

Wave Storm, it's all very easy to do now, you don't need anything at all, just a diode and a 6V lead battery. In fact, you don't even need any resistors there. We have these diodes on the market and in stores, it costs approx. 40 UAH.
http://radioskot.ru/publ/svetodiody/svetodiod_5_vt/3-1-0-147
http://www.kosmodrom.com.ua/data/light/led...20%C2%F2&page=0

5W LED? But after all, the LED that alexa has is much more powerful - it works at all 50 watts.

This post was edited by Wave Storm - 31.01.2013 22: 19

So this is not a problem, this plasma cord is spinning in a spiral, this sometimes happens on any tubular lamps, especially by the way, often through EPRA with high - quality characteristics, there are two vriants here-either it passes over time or not, it does not greatly affect the performance of the lamp.

by the way, why EPR, since we have already assembled such a scheme, it is more logical to connect the tube from recess through a choke and a capacitor torn out of a compact LL directly and not put an extra stray!

in theory, you need to take an ordinary frosted bulb from an incandescent lamp and cover it with a diode assembly, despite all the jokes, the light transmission through it is up to 95%, and the dispersion is capital.

I thought so too. Practice has shown that scattering is not necessary. It is enough just to direct the diodes in different directions.

By the way, what's the big deal about the sphere? For example, you sat down by the forest and pointed the lantern in its direction. And why in the field?

Because there will be more light coming at the sphere than directed light.

Hierophis and what is the point of tearing out the choke and capacitor, torn out of the CFL? How is it better than ready-made?
There's also the housekeeper to be gutted.
And about the performance -do you want to say that for insects that swaying, that exactly burning-no difference? And the return is the same?
please explain pliz)

This post was edited by tiger33 - 31.01.2013 22: 27

5W LED? But after all, the LED that alexa has is much more powerful - it works at all 50 watts.

Does Alex have a 50W single crystal??? Yes, well, it seems that he did not write about it here anywhere, I advised someone to search-I do not even know how much this pleasure will cost

This 5W diode is certainly not super, it doesn't have much return, but we have it everywhere, you can buy it right away, cheap, you don't need a driver and it's not demanding of voltage, well, you don't like 5W, you can buy two or three, it will be 10-15W.
I made a flashlight for myself on NiMH 10A/h batteries, so I haven't charged it for half a year, I once forgot to turn it on at night, But for catching imho these diodes are not very good, it's better to DRL 150W or prau economok 38W. Spherical light and light spectrum still rule...

tiger33, well, since you have assembled this converter, then you can figure out what is better-connect another stray to it, in fact-another converter, or take the output of the change from the converter, and connect the LL there through a choke with a capacitor-the efficiency is higher after all.

But I do not know how to use a waving plasma cord for insects ) I know for sure that this does not affect either the performance or the return of the lamp, it is only terribly unnerving, so you can roll valerianochki, well, or change the lamp, or throw out the second EPR and on. through the throttle.

Does Alex have a 50W single crystal??? Yes, well, it seems that he did not write about it here anywhere, I advised someone to search-I do not even know how much this pleasure will cost

This 5W diode is certainly not super, it doesn't have much return, but we have it everywhere, you can buy it right away, cheap, you don't need a driver and it's not demanding of voltage, well, you don't like 5W, you can buy two or three, it will be 10-15W.
I made a flashlight for myself on NiMH 10A/h batteries, so I haven't charged it for half a year, I once forgot to turn it on at night, But for catching imho these diodes are not very good, it's better to DRL 150W or prau economok 38W. Spherical light and light spectrum still rule...

Well, judging by his link http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREE-SHIP-1-x-50W-...=item4cfce02359 - 50 Вт.

Not well, of course this is better!!!!! But it probably will definitely need a driver. Well, plus the order.
By the way, this is not a single crystal and there the power supply needs 30V, read the parameters. This is still a hassle.

Hierophis, I assembled the converter according to the diagram shown here and the printed circuit board, with the help of an amateur radio friend. I don't know much about circuit design myself, and I don't know where to take a break on it.
And I still didn't understand about the throttle - do you mean to change the EPRA for a "transformer" type starter?
Sorry again for the cretinism...Well, I'm not an electrician, not an electrician.....

tiger33, well, then everything is also normal, I would advise you to contact a friend, then it's better not to touch anything yourself, so tell him about connecting through the choke and capacitor directly from the recess, he will understand and connect. In general, by and large, in this converter for powering LL tubes, DRL and MG constants are superfluous, everything needs to be connected through a variable and a choke with a capacitor, the choke is small, at 150 W the size of a floor match. the box can be made from the same trance with comp. BP.

But you can leave everything as it is, if you don't want to disturb your friend, you won't get much anyway

And your version in the photo above with constant and variable based on the same converter is made?

The benefit if you say it will be small is what percentage?
I just think to hang up the phone on the converter now, and abandon CFL for illumination and use powerful LEDs directly from the battery via the driver.
As I understand it, the current strength of the tube is about 0.2 -0.3 A, that is, it should work from a 7Ah battery for about 20 hours?

A friend is just out of town right now,and if you poke where, I'll solder myself, I know how to solder)And I can deal with the throttle, maybe with this performance the waves will disappear.

This post was edited by tiger33 - 31.01.2013 23: 07

Yes, there is the same converter, only slightly finished up to 30A of current at 12V, there is a variable and constant output.

the benefit will be no more than 10% if without the second EPR, but rather less, about 5%.
And the waves will disappear with a 100% probability.. but poke.. it will not just be necessary to poke in the right place, otherwise everything will be lost so that the smoke will go blue)))

If the battery is normal. charged then at this current yes, we should hope for 20N! At currents less than 0.5 S, the capacitance is approximately equal to. written.

In general, I will draw a diagram later, and most importantly, I will take a picture in reality of everything already connected where it is necessary and I will post it tomorrow! Using the DRL example. But there is the same thing with the tube LL.

Thank you so much for your help!I'll be waiting for a photo. DRL I think it makes sense if the battery capacity of 60Ah car type?

You can also buy a generator. There are not very expensive ones, from 160 to 300 US rubles
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Both three are the same thing, lottery

LEDs directly from the battery via the driver.

Either "directly" or"through the driver".
"Directly through the driver" is the same as "free for money".

  
You don't understand correctly. Or I don't understand something.

By the way, really, I somehow did not read it, and did not notice, a true remark! I just understood that they meant that the tube consumes 0.2-0.3 A and from this they calculated:
12*0.3= 3.6 W, the battery capacity is 84 W per hour, as a result, 23 hours of operation will be obtained. But this is not the case, because the 0.2 A tube takes on the high side, and on the low side it will be approx. 3.5 A, in itga, the operating time is approx. 2x hours(I took the lamp power as 40W)

in general, in this case, you need to stupidly divide the lamp power by the battery power consumption, that's all. that is, 84/40. Well, plus all sorts of losses to add and lies about the battery capacity to subtract)))

This post was edited by Hierophis - 02/01/2013 01: 20

50W LED and 12V driver together with delivery will cost 1tr, radiator, cooler. thermal paste - another $ 600r. Well, you can not take the lens, remembering about the sphere, although I doubt something about the sphere. How to shine the SD I imagine, the same type, only 20W, at my house it shines constantly.
Also at home, 20 pcs of cri cml u2 shine at a power of about 5W. Yes, it's cool, but I think it's a little weak. It can be overclocked to a current of 3A and then it will give about 1000lm of light. For occasional fishing, this would be quite acceptable. But if you're going to break up the Chinese crowd like this, then just throw it out later.

And where do you go fishing in your small homeland?

Grodno region. Zelvensky district, partly Slonimsky and Volkovysky districts.Unas places are notable.

My battery is 7 Ah,and the lamp is 18 W, plus LEDs to it ,probably 3 grabs

My battery is 7 Ah,and the lamp is 18 W, plus LEDs to it ,probably 3 are enough

And that's right. Acc. most likely from the UPS, lead?
Four types of recommendations:
Probably the same as yours.
More capacity.
The best (wearable) option.
Heavy, but the most capacious.
All batteries are "lead and time-tested classics", so there will not be such shamanism as with these newfangled and often nepoymi as made lithium-ion.

Yes, there are certain problems with lithium-ion batteries, but I think they are quite surmountable.
It is clear that the battery for 600re is super interesting, but what about customs then? Although it is tempting more than for catching insects with pitching in your native country, you just need at least a couple of them for the night, even for my modest set of 10W sd and 18W (from the calculation of 2-2. 5 hours/battery). Or better yet, 3. This is already too heavy.

Let's do a little math. 9ACHX3=27Ah, 2.35 kgh3=7kg
. The"most capacious" version loses by 1Ah in capacity and is 1.2 kg heavier.

Still, lithium batteries are still the best for hiking, and generators are the best for cars. The leaden ones fly by.

I'm going to use at 7 Ah simply because it's possible to get them for free) Since this whole system with a UV tube and LEDs will be a trial, I don't really want to invest in it. For the sample, I take what I have.

So everyone has the opportunity to get them for free. Because in this case 400....600r=0r. The equality is almost true))

This post was edited by alex017 - 01.02.2013 15: 51

Still, lithium batteries are still the best for hiking, and generators are the best for cars. The leaden ones fly by.

So far, lithium batteries have only one advantage over lead ones: they are lighter. And in terms of reliability, they lose in 99% of cases. If it were otherwise, lithium batteries would have long been used everywhere, including motor vehicles. If you go to catch insects: then you need to catch, not mu...go with the bait. Lead pipes are heavier and bulkier, but they are practically trouble-free. I'll leave the first place to them for now.

Well, you can see a pumped-up person!))
What are the problems with lithium batteries? How do they lose out?

Well, you can see a pumped-up person!))
What are the problems with lithium batteries? How do they lose out?

Well, the first is that they are not able to hold large discharge currents yet, so they are mainly used to power all sorts of gadgets.
Second (secondary): it is not known what quality you will run into.
Raw technology yet: in short.
I bought a lead one, charged it for a certain time (usually with a current of one-tenth of the capacity) and went to catch it without any problems.

Lithium batteries have already been delivered to Boeing - two planes almost burned down
I already have a bike with a motor, and the batteries there are lead, 12v 24ah, weigh 7kg, and they are not free for me, I still work at work, and I live on one PO and money like eq. of my labor ))) So I will think hard about what is better - to buy a lithium-ion battery, which at the same parameters is 1.6 times lighter(not even twice), but almost 10 times more expensive!
So for now - for small devices such as flashlights, I use only NiMG, and for traction devices only lead, because I would have to add charging and adaptives to lithium ones, and I almost sneezed-an explosion, a fire, and it happens that even on a bike with all the branded strays, photos are lit on acc. it's full-the bike will burn down so it even happens that the frame melts, but think about if the process goes on at home
A 12v 24Ah battery is an energy approximately equal to 500 shots from a kalash, I just counted it for the sake of interest

So far, lithium technology when it comes to high energy is dumb, so here it is.

Well, I bought a 3.8 Ah 12V lithium battery. If it gives something similar to the truth in Ah, then I'll buy it for 40Ah. I strongly doubt the veracity of the Ach, but still, there must be hope.
To each his own. By the way, traction, it is special lithium polymer batteries then take, they are designed for high currents. I plan to use it at a current of up to 3A. Nothing will be overloaded.
By the way, I quite like NiMH accumulators, but again, where to get them for large capacities.

alex017 about 400..600 p = 0p disagree. Perhaps when collecting insects is a serious and comprehensive hobby, or even more than a hobby. then yes +/- a couple of thousand nezhalko probably. But I'd rather, instead of buying batteries with this money, change the lamp or take a sample of LEDs. For someone and 600 rubles money.