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10.03.2013 16:55, Bad Den


Uncle Akio Toyoda has mastered everything for a long time

Where to buy?

10.03.2013 16:57, Bad Den

we are the ones who have not mastered the ways to force their superiors to share with us a part of the funds obtained from the sale of minerals belonging to US, just as we have not mastered the methods and methods of obtaining a PO that provides not the limit of survival, but a life worthy of a Person. In the developed world, people can do it, so Uncle Akio works for them.

In the developed world, a person is someone who has money. Don't confuse prosperity and democracy smile.gif

10.03.2013 17:28, Bianor

10.03.2013 17:40, alex017

I personally don't care. Let them give me this apartment first, and then nationalize it, it is important that I live in it, and who it belongs to is not the point.
There are many interesting things in your favorite omerika, and we are content with leftovers. For a colony, this is quite natural.

I gave you a reference to Japanese batteries. Buy and assemble in a block with the dimensions of that 100b battery. you'll get 6Ah 16V, or 24000Ah at 3.7 V.

Somewhere I found accumulators for uninterruptible power supplies of equipment for mobile companies. I didn't save the link, because the price was unrealistic there, so I didn't save it.

I found here some website that offers high-capacity batteries, there are 22Ah, the cost is not specified for certain reasons...
http://www.battery-maker.ru/3-2-high-capacity-battery.html

10.03.2013 17:41, Bad Den

For DRLki, of course, not an option.

It will not be sent by mail , but rather by a transport company.

10.03.2013 17:52, alex017

Well, I showed the world a terrible sealed lamp cooled by a cooler, with a power of 10 W (1000 lm stated by the seller).
P3103720_1.jpg

This post was edited by alex017 - 10.03.2013 17: 54

10.03.2013 17:56, Bad Den

A friend also suggested using these batteries from airsoft drives:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Akku-ANR26650M1A-A...n-/180776135810

10.03.2013 18:01, alex017

Remember. However, they are also not cheap, and you need a charger for each type. And you need to carry all this on yourself while limiting the weight of your luggage. It is much more profitable to stop at 1, maximum 2 types of batteries.

10.03.2013 18:14, Bad Den

Remember. However, they are also not cheap, and you need a charger for each type.

Chargers for them are well-known and have long been successfully used by airsoft players:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=%D1%8...b6&_sacat=48446

10.03.2013 18:42, alex017

1) 18650
Battery Charger 2) NiMH AA
Battery Charger 3) Charger for MiMH type C (acc from Makita)
4) Battery charger for airsoft
5) Battery charger for pack lit.bat (like yours)
It is clear that 2, 3, and 4 can be combined. However, the pendulum with connectors remains. Heterogeneity is always an inconvenience.
You need to select one type and stop.
Those trackball batteries aren't cheap either. I kept my finger on the " buy " button for many hours, but I didn't buy it, because it's easier for me to force myself to break batteries for makit.

10.03.2013 19:06, Bad Den

Duc naturally-to stop at one, I did not mean to carry around different types of batteries.

Well, they are not so expensive, airsoft. I should have paid attention to them earlier - I would have taken them and this Imax B6 charger, since my friends have experience working with them.

10.03.2013 19:22, alex017

Now I tried my 10W diode...nda...lume can't shine like that....

Here is a photo of the experience. The current is 0.88 A, i.e. the total power of the installation is 10.5 W together with the cooler.
P3103727_1.jpg

This post was edited by alex017 - 10.03.2013 19: 36

12.03.2013 10:23, vasiliy-feoktistov

Today, and I have nothing to do, I decided to "check for lice" the previously revealed Samsung laptop batteries (2200 ma / h). I loaded this case with giblets from a six-battery Chinese lantern with LDS 5w. It was launched at exactly 11:00 Moscow time. At the moment, the current is 0.3 A + / - 15mA (apparently the instability is caused by a bad PRA). I'm waiting for the akki to die:

Pictures:
picture: 11.jpg
11.jpg — (153.98к)

12.03.2013 10:26, alex017

I have no doubt that they will be delayed for a long time. Only all these "nano" tubes almost do not give light...
You have a rare ammeter.
By the way, the voltmeter can not be used, because there is almost no fall during operation, and when they start to die, the napruga quickly fails and the batteries are turned off by the built-in circuit. Japanese krasauchiki pulled the load and at a total voltage of 9V (4 elements)! While the rest were turned off at 10.5-10.8 V.

This post was edited by alex017 - 12.03.2013 10: 29

12.03.2013 10:34, vasiliy-feoktistov

I have no doubt that they will be delayed for a long time. Only all these "nano" tubes almost do not give light...

Well, you can take a more powerful light source (this is just the only one that was lying around at hand). 2x8w (one of them is pure UV) I think it will be enough in the field with a minimum of external illumination.

12.03.2013 12:37, alex017

Well, you can take a more powerful light source (this is just the only one that was lying around at hand). 2x8w (one of them is pure UV) I think it will be enough in the field with a minimum of external illumination.


Yes, everything is possible, but no one needs it...

12.03.2013 13:25, Seneka

Isn't the power too low?
Although if this is a real 0.7 kW and not Chinese, then it may be very good.

More than enough. I have one. I was with him in Dosang, Malaysia, and the Voronezh and Moscow regions. Consistently keeps in fuel economy mode 2 x 160W DRV + 2 x 36W UV. I worked 10-11 hours with a short break for refilling fuel. Eats 1.5 liters (full tank) for 3-4 hours, depending on the load.

In the light of the fact that air transport is picking on batteries with incomprehensible electronics and wires, as actively as generators, I see no reason to switch to LEDs and batteries. A generator is a device that is more understandable to a simple layman than a homemade electronic device weighing as much as a bomb.

This post was edited by Seneka - 12.03.2013 13: 29

12.03.2013 13:51, vasiliy-feoktistov

Yes, everything is possible, but no one needs it...

But this is in vain.... A UV source (which is gas-discharge, mercury lamps), which insects fly to much better than an ordinary light source, is just very necessary.
The point is not in brightness, but in performance. While there are proven gas-discharge lamps (LDS), I don't see the point in using LEDs. Yes, and with a buzzing cooler (no offense said) smile.gif

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 12.03.2013 13: 52

12.03.2013 18:33, alex017

Well, the buzzing cooler is my greed buzzing there. Once I regretted putting a new one, I dug out an ancient cooler from the bins of my homeland, which had been plowed without a break for several years.
But this little nuisance is forgotten when you turn on this LED! It's shining like hell.
But I did not think to get UV from LEDs. Although, of course, I thought, but I found out and the desire disappeared completely, because only an arc lamp will give more UV, except for the lumens.

If you hang a lumma in front of the screen, then half of its power goes nowhere. Nafig this is necessary.

Recently, somewhere I saw in reports how they caught in the tropics on a healthy savings bank (40-100W). I couldn't think of anything worse, and judging by the report, it wasn't bad. Therefore, the diode should fly even better.

However, it's all about the ability to choose a place...when this is not the case, then you don't really have to count on catches, so you want better fishing equipment, hence the diodes and a fairly powerful 18W UV compact.

We need to somehow get together and light it....

12.03.2013 18:58, Bianor

Seneka, did you use the generator? What model?

12.03.2013 18:58, vasiliy-feoktistov

Recently, somewhere I saw in reports how they caught in the tropics on a healthy savings bank (40-100W). I couldn't think of anything worse, and judging by the report, it wasn't bad. Therefore, the diode should fly even better.

I have such a savings card:36-180w (2500 lumens). I tried it on my balcony: the shit is terrible and doesn't fly at her at all. As a result, I decided on the following configuration: two UV savings banks of 26w each+one 15w tube (for keeping reptiles, with increased UV): the year is normal for the city, although it almost does not shine. So-what is this "grandmother said in two"? To be honest, I haven't tried it on LEDs. The case is dark, in short ...

12.03.2013 19:07, alex017

Vasily, due to some circumstances, I never use equivalents. I hate using them! Therefore, I wrote the power of 40-100W because I did not exactly estimate the power of the lamp seen in the photo. But these are watts of power consumption, and not any equivalents! Lyumka - it is lyumka, why the equivalents of to? Well, they rolled the flask into a roll, it didn't stop being a lumen from this.
The topic about fishing with this savings bank, or rather its photo on the background of the screen, was recently in reports about fishing in some tropical country. There that flew means...

At one time, I was lighting a small seaweed garden with a 30W (power consumption) savings bank. The illumination there was at the minimum limit, because about 1-1.5 thousand meters.lux, and after replacing the 20W LED became 5-6tys.lux (measured in water at grass level).

12.03.2013 19:27, Alexander73

I have such a savings card:36-180w (2500 lumens). I tried it on my balcony: the shit is terrible and doesn't fly at her at all. As a result, I decided on the following configuration: two UV savings banks of 26w each+one 15w tube (for keeping reptiles, with increased UV): the year is normal for the city, although it almost does not shine. So-what is this "grandmother said in two"? To be honest, I haven't tried it on LEDs. The case is dark, in short...


Vasily, I apologize for the possibly inappropriate question in the context of the last discussion, but still-why in the "city" (from the balcony?) do not catch on DRL?
I ask because I have already tried the option of savings / tubular Repti glo + inverter+ 12 v battery in the "field", and was convinced that the comparison with DRL (stationary, in the country) this scheme does not hold up, well, absolutely...

This post was edited by Alexander73 - 12.03.2013 19: 30

12.03.2013 19:28, vasiliy-feoktistov

I don't know:
Here, I took a special picture of this fucking thing.
I bought the size, I thought it would fly........ And figushki frown.gif.

Pictures:
picture: lum.jpg
lum.jpg — (90.86к)

12.03.2013 19:32, vasiliy-feoktistov

Vasily, I apologize for the possibly inappropriate question in the context of the last discussion, but still-why in the "city" (from the balcony?) do not catch on DRL?
I ask because I have already tried the option of savings / tubular Repti glo + inverter+ 12 v battery in the "field", and was convinced that the comparison with DRL (stationary, in the country) this scheme does not hold up, well, absolutely...

And my DRL is just dumb to light (the neighboring house is very close to the same number of storeys as mine), and the yard is quite crowded.
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12.03.2013 19:32, alex017

For some reason, I have the utmost hope for a lamp from uv ster, hoping for an abundance of uv and years on it.
Savings lamps are designed to illuminate rooms around them, they are designed to shine in all directions, i.e. if you need to shine in one direction, especially on an object, they are absolutely not effective, they are less effective than just linear lumens.lamps because of their shape!
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12.03.2013 19:45, vasiliy-feoktistov

 
You have a rare ammeter.

Sorry, just noticed:
And then: still Soviet. I also have an avometer C20 somewhere. Wonderful switch devices, by the way. Advantage: linear scale (it is convenient to track changes visually).
UPD: I forgot to write the most important thing.
The batteries in my experiment finally died at about 17:30. Which is certainly good, but given the low-power load is not quite happy...... I remain a supporter of the good old "lead".

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 12.03.2013 20: 07

12.03.2013 20:09, alex017

And I dream of buying a better dosimeter and luxmeter. It's just a pity to spend money...

You have normal batteries!

Actually, there are also NiMH type R20 (D), they are up to 10Ah. A block like this is really cool!

This post was edited by alex017 - 12.03.2013 20: 12

12.03.2013 20:24, vasiliy-feoktistov

Here cool battery. I brought it because I have it (from the Soviet Iskra uninterruptible power supply): it is collapsible and consists of as many as 20 ten-ampere elements of 1.2 V. But they are heavy, and throw out the toad presses smile.gif

12.03.2013 20:30, alex017

Yes, these r20s also weigh a lot, as well as batteries from Makita, AA and this slows me down to buy them.
By the way, a fast AA charger has arrived, 2.5 Ah should charge in 30 minutes.

19.03.2013 19:58, Bad Den

So, according to the results of field tests, Shaitan pribo http://www.ebay.com/itm/170937990572?ssPag...984.m1439.l2649 it showed its inefficiency.
After burning the house for 8 hours of an 8-watt lamp and many hours of charging, it burned out for an hour and was charged for 3 days (not charging, judging by the indicator diode on the charger). Switched on with an 8-watt lamp, he powered it for 20 minutes, after which he started the show "lit-not lit" and was cursed and gutted. Some flat pieces and a couple of microchips appeared inside.

19.03.2013 20:11, alex017

Well, very predictable....too bad, though.
Now I'm assembling a mini-device so that I can conveniently measure current and voltage simultaneously with the input contacts 5.5 mm/2.5 mm.

20.03.2013 9:44, Seneka

Seneka, did you use the generator? What model?
The one mentioned above, Fubag TI 700, there is a link given
http://www.fubag.ru/catalog/main_156/secti...928/item_40176/

20.03.2013 9:54, Seneka

For some reason, I have the utmost hope for a lamp from uv ster, hoping for an abundance of uv and years on it.
Savings lamps are designed to illuminate rooms around them, they are designed to shine in all directions, i.e. if you need to shine in one direction, especially on an object, they are absolutely not effective, they are less effective than just linear lumens.lamps because of their shape!
UF is also different. You can read about the wavelength range of sterilization lamps and the principle of sterilization. Any desire to use it will disappear. For entomology, UV is used with a different range.

20.03.2013 9:58, alex017

And what is the range of the pricked drl?! The same one...

20.03.2013 10:10, Seneka

And what is the range of the pricked drl?! The same one...

It is much wider, the DRL emits across the entire spectrum. Yes, it turns on at the edge of the spectrum ~200nm, just like the sterilizer, but for the sterilizer this is the main wavelength, and for the DRL it is not the main one. Both lamps are very dangerous, but the sterilization lamp is also useless.

This post was edited by Seneka - 03/20/2013 10: 11

20.03.2013 11:21, Bad Den

Well, very predictable....too bad, though.
Now I am assembling a mini-device so that it is convenient to measure current and voltage simultaneously with input contacts of 5.5 mm/2.5 mm.

In the end, a motorcycle battery was purchased on the spot for 550 baht))

20.03.2013 11:34, vasiliy-feoktistov

In the end, a motorcycle battery was purchased on the spot for 550 baht))

It was worth starting from the beginning. Lead?(I just had 9A / h bad that liquid electrolyte). I advise you to pay attention to akki from bespereboynikov. I'm going to buy: 12V. 12a/h. weight 5kg. (too heavy - but reliable and not overworked) and well, nafig while all these nanotechnologies smile.gif.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 03/20/2013 11: 37

20.03.2013 12:39, Bad Den

It was worth starting from the beginning. Lead?(I just had 9A / h bad that liquid electrolyte). I advise you to pay attention to akki from bespereboynikov. I'm going to buy: 12V. 12a/h. weight 5kg. (too heavy - but reliable and not overworked) and well, nafig while all these nanotechnologies smile.gif.

Kologram for 1.5
Declared 3 A within 30 minutes.

And I have a battery, but it raises questions at the airport.

20.03.2013 19:30, alex017

Kologram on 1.5
3 A's are claimed for 30 minutes


Is something flying?

Both lamps are very dangerous, but the sterilization lamp is also useless.


Lamp from uv stera gives uv? Gives. Does the LED give visible white light? Gives. Does one complement the other? Yes. Then what are the problems? Have you caught on a UV lamp and you have accurate information?
Even on the "black" lumki flies the same...

Here I built a thing so that every time I didn't torment the tester and didn't connect the wires: I stuck it in - and volts with amperes on the scoreboard! You can measure volts as a tester.
P3203730_1.jpg
Just today I saw the price of Makitovsky acccum and was blown away: 2tr!! Nda....

This post was edited by alex017 - 20.03.2013 19: 38

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