Features of light catching

Slings-yes. Now the main thing is that the screen itself does not collapse...

And two convenient trees, between which you can stretch a rope, are not everywhere.

In my experience, it is more convenient to pull a rope even over two uncomfortable trees than to carry extra weight.
If there are no two trees, then one tree may be enough. The rope is stretched between the branches.
If there are no trees at all, you can simply spread the screen on the ground, and fix the lamp on a stick stuck in the soil.

This post was edited by okoem - 27.01.2014 23: 33

Slings-yes. Now the main thing is that the screen itself does not collapse...
In my experience, it is more convenient to pull a rope even over two uncomfortable trees than to carry extra weight.
If there are no two trees, then one tree may be enough. The rope is stretched between the branches.
If there are no trees at all, you can simply spread the screen on the ground, and fix the lamp on a stick stuck in the soil.

It seems quite stable. And you can additionally fix it with four stretch marks with pegs. And it really weighs very little.
Well, imagine a long straight clearing. If you put it in the center , it will be visible far away in both directions. If you hit a tree with your screen across the clearing , it's worse.
Again: the higher above the ground, the further you can see.

I'll repeat it again! who and where are you going to catch?
the frame of the classic screen (in my version) will show of course. upon completion of the work, I will report the total weight of the frame.
I don't know where you are going to drag the "gena", but the Kipors weigh 0.9 kW and cost one and a half times less

Butterflies. In the woods and fields
One and a half times less THAN WHAT? My 0.9 kW gena weighs 14 kg without gasoline. Does a Kipor of similar capacity weigh 9.3 kg? No, it weighs exactly the same 14 kg.

This post was edited by PhilGri - 28.01.2014 00: 04

Has anyone tried catching the night on such gas lamps?

http://kovea.ru/catalog/items/gazovaya-lam...2-glow-lantern/

It seems to me that it is convenient for hiking, and the gas consumption is small, and the cylinders are standard, they are sold everywhere.

Butterflies. In the woods and fields
One and a half times less THAN WHAT? My 0.9 kW gena weighs 14 kg without gasoline. Does a Kipor of similar capacity weigh 9.3 kg? No, it weighs exactly the same 14 kg.

Good afternoon,
Tell me why you need 0.9 kW, if 0.7 is enough with your head. I have two lamps burning at the same time: DRL 125 and DRL 250 (you need to start, of course, in turn) on this one - http://entomology.com.ua/catalog/drugoe_ob...weekender_950i/ (and precisely because I tried it out and use it myself, I offer it in my store) - both its weight of 8.5 kg without gasoline, and on Kipor 0.7, which weighs 10.5 kg, also burned perfectly, but this is no longer 14 kg.

This post was edited by Musson max - 28.01.2014 15: 01

Good afternoon,
Tell me why you need 0.9 kW, if 0.7 is enough with your head. I have two lamps burning at the same time: DRL 125 and DRL 250 (you need to start, of course, in turn) on this one - http://entomology.com.ua/catalog/drugoe_ob...weekender_950i/ (and precisely because I tried it out and use it myself, I offer it in my store) - both its weight of 8.5 kg without gasoline, and on Kipor 0.7, which weighs 10.5 kg, also burned perfectly, but this is no longer 14 kg.

Yandex says that we only sell its full counterpart for now Patriot Garden&Power 1000i

Gas canisters are not available everywhere, they are sold only in specialized stores, and they are not allowed to take them on the plane. Cooking on gas is more comfortable, but only for certain brands of stoves.
The principle of operation of a gas and gasoline lamp is the same - heating the mesh with its subsequent glow.
Summary: a gas lamp and a tile are good for walking near the house, but for longer trips it is better to have a lamp and a stove for cooking with gasoline (from Coleman), and from Kovea ,gasoline tiles cook disgusting ( if someone needs a similar tile bought for $ 200, then I will give it to you free of charge in Moscow). On this tile, you can cook from gasoline and gas.
Take note: You can take gasoline tiles and lamps on the plane, provided that you have completely cleaned them of gasoline and its vapors ( this is done with acetone or alcohol, followed by weathering on the balcony). It is advisable to disassemble the tile or lamp as much as possible. Well, the most important thing is not to make unnecessary transfers at other airports, and if they do, then try to make them no more than two hours ( during this time, the luggage will not have time to check).

About screen: The larger the screen size of the trap screen, the less exposed it is to wind. I advise everyone who makes homemade screens to equip them with a canvas made of tulle, and not from a sheet ( yesterday). You can buy tulle for three hundred rubles in IKEA.
Important: Do not forget to leave a reserve when installing stretch marks in case the screen is installed on rocks.

Butterflies. In the woods and fields
One and a half times less THAN WHAT? My 0.9 kW gena weighs 14 kg without gasoline. Does a Kipor of similar capacity weigh 9.3 kg? No, it weighs exactly the same 14 kg.

please excuse me, for some reason I was sure that it weighs 10 kg

About the generator: An inverter generator should never be used for a long time at peak power. Always leave power in reserve! For example, for the lightest Kipor – 770 generator ( or similar ones), the maximum total power is no more than 300W, and you should not forget to give it a "rest" every four hours.
Important: The generator operation is affected by such parameters as the external temperature ( the higher it is, the more often the generator should be allowed to rest), humidity (the generator may work intermittently. You should also reduce the load), altitude (for example, in the mountains).
It is not entirely clear why you need to hang such powerful lamps? In total darkness, far from cities, insects are equally willing to fly to any light sources.
And more:A car inverter is a very convenient thing, but if the place you found is successful, then you can return to it after an hour's run (you need to charge the battery). Thus, the car inverter can be used at home as the main one, and only as an additional one (for serious, foreign trips).

  About the generator: An inverter generator should never be used for a long time at peak power. Always leave power in reserve! For example, for the lightest Kipor – 770 generator ( or similar ones), the maximum total power is no more than 300W, and you should not forget to give it a "rest" every four hours.

Tell me, please, what is the total power if the DRL 250 lamp is connected. The throttle also eats something, especially at startup?

Romyald, are you sure that everything is not so strict? Is the maximum total power LESS THAN HALF of the rated power of the generator? Well, at least half of it!
That is, 350 watts from a 0.7 kW generator. Patriot 1000i.

This post was edited by PhilGri - 28.01.2014 17: 24

770 kipor when warming up the DRL 250 through the throttle gets some overload (the indicator shows everything), which ends when the lamp is fully lit, it lasts about a minute after starting. It seems nothing critical, I have been running in this mode for 2 seasons already and so far it works like an hour. Maybe it's just lucky with the gene, but it's probably better to take a kilowatt, even though it's heavier. 770 weighs 10 kg

the starting power of the DRL is equal to three times the rated power.

Gas canisters are not available everywhere, they are sold only in specialized stores, and they are not allowed to take them on the plane. Cooking on gas is more comfortable, but only for certain brands of stoves.
The principle of operation of a gas and gasoline lamp is the same - heating the mesh with its subsequent glow.
Summary: a gas lamp and a tile are good for walking near the house, but for longer trips it is better to have a lamp and a stove for cooking with gasoline (from Coleman), and from Kovea ,gasoline tiles cook disgusting ( if someone needs a similar tile bought for $ 200, then I will give it to you free of charge in Moscow). On this tile, you can cook from gasoline and gas.
Take note: You can take gasoline tiles and lamps on the plane, provided that you have completely cleaned them of gasoline and its vapors ( this is done with acetone or alcohol, followed by weathering on the balcony). It is advisable to disassemble the tile or lamp as much as possible. Well, the most important thing is not to make unnecessary transfers at other airports, and if they do, then try to make them no more than two hours ( during this time, the luggage will not have time to check).

Gas canisters (standard 0.5 liters, Russia, Korea) are sold in any general store, at least on the territory of the Russian Federation. Especially the more remote the place, the easier it is to find them. I switched to gas a long time ago, I cook only on gas for several expeditions and I can say that everywhere in Kolyma, Chukotka and Altai, I'm not talking about other more populated regions, well, there are no problems with these cans. Verified in person.

The actual question is for those, for example, who are going to Primorye from European Russia to catch the night. For example, if you live in a tent a few kilometers from the village, then having a gas lamp and cylinders purchased on the spot, you can catch nocturnal fish. You can't carry a generator to Primorye with you, and you can't walk around Primorye with it on foot with backpacks. Of course, there is an option to rent a house in some village and catch right where you live on the infield, holding out a carrier, but this in my opinion is not very convenient in every sense.

Yandex says that we only sell its full counterpart for now Patriot Garden&Power 1000i

And wherever it hangs on the site, they say that in fact it is not yet on sale.

This post was edited by PhilGri - 29.01.2014 17: 52

  About screen: The larger the screen size of the trap screen, the less exposed it is to wind. I advise everyone who makes homemade screens to equip them with a canvas made of tulle, and not from a sheet ( yesterday). You can buy tulle for three hundred rubles in IKEA.
Important: Do not forget to leave a reserve when installing stretch marks in case the screen is installed on rocks.

199 rubles for two screens measuring 2x3 meters, We are using the third season. Item!

I choose the generator as light as possible - so that you can carry it on a two-wheeled gurney for heavy bags. For DRL 250. I usually catch 5-6 hours.

Elemax SHX1000 Generator "what do you say?"
What are the disadvantages? What should I pay attention to? Are there any better options in mind?

Imho, too expensive. Maybe it's better to try the option suggested by niyaz? It is, by the way, easier. And if it breaks, it's not so bad.

Colleagues, please advise some kind of light, burning high - power gas dump. I want to throw in a backpack with several cylinders (tourist), and shine in one wild place of Primorye, where electricity is 50 km away...

If gas-then as an option: Kovea, gasoline-Coleman (yuzal and both). Both have pros and cons.

Has anyone tried catching the night on such gas lamps?

http://kovea.ru/catalog/items/gazovaya-lam...2-glow-lantern/

It seems to me that it is convenient for hiking, and the gas consumption is small, and the cylinders are standard, they are sold everywhere.

I tried it, but it catches.

The holiday season is approaching, I made a new more versatile lamp with a supply voltage of 10 ... 30V.




Power 10.8 W, with a current of 0.91 A and a voltage of 11.9 V.
Configuring the driver: current 0.99 A, cooler current 0.12 A (12V), i.e. slightly lower in reality 0.08-0.1 A.
The light is great, the angle is big. Yes, and in the forest last year I tried-it's quite so light, although you can read, the midges fly wonderfully))

This post was edited by alex017 - 20.02.2014 17: 21

Good time of day.Now I'll explain the scheme almost like you have on 10 W UV LEDs, as it turns out to try out I'll unsubscribe(there are 5 LEDs on the radiators in a circle)

At one time, I moved on foot with the generator,reduced the wearable weight as much as possible,after 5-6 hikes with the generator in my hands, the length of the walking path increased gradually and I was not afraid to go 2-3 km with the weight of everything necessary.Then I bought a car,and the experience of hiking in dalnyak stopped.But still, 500-1000m is sometimes necessary to overcome to a promising place.Chairs and other elements of comfort wear a second trip, or a partner helps,or a wife, or I don't take it, or finally I don't go..... joke!

This post was edited by Maksim M.-09.03.2014 09: 30

At one time, I moved on foot with the generator,reduced the wearable weight as much as possible,after 5-6 hikes with the generator in my hands, the length of the walking path increased gradually and I was not afraid to go 2-3 km with the weight of everything necessary.Then I bought a car,and the experience of hiking in dalnyak stopped.But still, 500-1000m is sometimes necessary to overcome to a promising place.Chairs and other elements of comfort wear a second trip, or a partner helps,or a wife, or I don't take it, or finally I don't go..... joke!

So I really began to swing, using the generator as a weight By May I will run with it )

Dear participants,
please tell teapot about the car inverter. I've never owned a car, so I don't know much about it. But in case of a trip abroad, I would like to test the ground.

1. Approximately how long the inverter, designed for the appropriate power + reserve, can work from the average car battery without the risk of completely discharging it:
- when two UV-B lumens are powered at 20 W + 20 watt savings; total no more than 60 W;
- when the DRV 250 is powered?

2. What should be the power reserve? In other words, what kind of inverter is needed for each case? Do I understand correctly that an inverter drawing 250 watts can also be used for a load of 60 watts?

3. Battery discharge is estimated by the indicator on the dashboard? To what level can I discharge the battery so that the car doesn't stop starting?

4. And, excuse me, quite a teapot question: when the car is critically discharged, do you need to drive for some time, or is it enough to start idling?

By the way, are there 125W DRVs on sale?

Everything is calculated by ampere-hours, permissible battery discharge value, and load amperes.
However, if you have a transport passport, all this is somehow not quite rational. You buy a generator and don't sweat it.
The inverter must be twice as powerful as the load.
It is not rational to use a powerful inverter for a low load due to the high intrinsic power (conversion loss).
DRV on 160W are. 125W not met, and DRL just happen.

Everything is calculated by ampere-hours, permissible battery discharge value, and load amperes.
However, if you have a transport passport, all this is somehow not quite rational. You buy a generator and don't sweat it.
The inverter must be twice as powerful as the load.
It is not rational to use a powerful inverter for a low load due to the high intrinsic power (conversion loss).
DRV on 160W are. 125W did not meet, and DRL just happen.

You can't take the generator abroad with you. And the satellites will have a car.

I turn off the car every hour for 20 minutes and normally. I carry a 30-meter extension cable so that I don't have to catch it near a working car. Bring the battery to full discharge, especially somewhere in the woods, I do not advise. The 500 kVA inverter pulls the drl 250 and a couple of savings without any problems. The option for other countries is suitable, the inverter is oversized and light, it is transported in luggage without questions.

You can't take the generator abroad with you. And the satellites will have a car.

And get a generator on the spot?

And to sell it back-how much will they buy it?Not everyone needs this specific product.Losing money can be very frustrating.

And to sell it back-how much will they buy it?Not everyone needs this specific product.Losing money can be very frustrating.

For half the price, they will most likely buy it. We had something like this in Thailand - we bought a generator for 4400 baht, handed it over to the same shop on our return, and received about half of the cost back.

I carry a 30-meter extension cable so that I don't have to catch it near a working car.

And what cross-section of the wire was taken under the load of 250 W?

so you can put the inverter in the car, and pull the wires from 220V, then more than 1. 5mm2 and do not need to brat

so you can put the inverter in the car, and pull the wires from 220V, then more than 1. 5mm2 and do not need to take

Well, I wanted to find out if 1.5 sq. mm is enough for 250 W in the case of DRV, as well as in the case of DRL, which has a starting load, as they say, three times the nominal.

What are you talking about? even 1 kv. mm. a couple of 400tyanet. (temporary parking at work is enabled) So 1.5 - with a huge margin!!!

This post was edited by alex017 - 10.03.2014 17: 58

Well, I wanted to find out if 1.5 sq. mm is enough for 250 W in the case of DRV, as well as in the case of DRL, which has a starting load, as they say, three times the nominal.

2x0. 75 will be ok for 250w

Has anyone connected a light sensor (photosensor) to the lamp? For some reason it doesn't work for me. Do you need a three-core cable there, or can you do without a two-core one?

Do you need a three-core cable there, or can you do without a two-core one?

I do not know what kind of sensor you have, but in general it depends on the sensor itself. For the passive one, two are enough, for the active one, you need three.
It doesn't work - it means that it is faulty or incorrectly connected.

I do not know what kind of sensor you have, but in general it depends on the sensor itself. For the passive one, two are enough, for the active one, you need three.
It doesn't work - it means that it is faulty or incorrectly connected.

I have a camelion lxp-02 photo sensor. How do I understand active or passive?

I have a camelion lxp-02 photo sensor. How do I understand active or passive?

And what is it used for?
Google is full of schemes for this sensor(well, the scheme is there)) )
Blue and brown 220V, red to the light bulb and the second end of the lamp to blue.



This post was edited by Hierophis - 03/14/2014 23: 45

Oh, it's all working now. It turns out that in the place of connecting 3 blue wires, there was no contact between two of them.