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31.01.2011 12:28, AGG

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apion.jpg
and in freaks, the female beauty (die 45*16)
before NG received a parcel from Badden'a with transparent-voobshche!!!! super!!!
ps to each his own/Caesar Caesarean...and so on to choose from smile.gif
sorry for the quality of the photo

This post was edited by AGG - 31.01.2011 14: 13
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31.01.2011 23:00, Bad Den

By the way, yes, as a compromise - transparent dies. And the glued beetle without a pin hole and the underside is visible...
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01.02.2011 0:28, Evgenich

AGG
It is clear that they tried. The bug mount is cool, pleasing to the eye! smile.gif

01.02.2011 9:12, Mantispid

Cool! Apionids are credit cards!
By the way, what does the yellow label mean?)

01.02.2011 10:21, AGG

"By the way, what does the yellow label mean?) "
I use yellow labels to indicate "non-Ambots" - it's so convenient for me

07.02.2011 17:08, SURESH

And if you do this: you spread the beetle, stick it on the die, and stick the label on the back of the die, then fix the beetle with pins.

07.02.2011 19:50, Egorus

for SURESH
, you will decide whether to fix the beetle with glue or pins... smile.gif

07.02.2011 20:26, SURESH

Stick the beetle on the die, and on the sides of a few pins so that the beetle does not spin in the box.

07.02.2011 21:53, RippeR

it is better to glue the beetle to the box, and seal the top with a die
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27.03.2011 20:28, Anser

it is better to glue the beetle to the box, and seal the top with a die

Great idea!This will protect the beetle's chitinous skin from UV light...And after 1000 years it will have its native color wink.gif

07.08.2011 21:26, Коллекционер

and up to what maximum size can beetles, and indeed insects in general, be glued to the die

07.08.2011 23:21, А.Й.Элез

"Everything depends on the diameter of the needle" (©L. I. Gaidai)

08.08.2011 17:02, Сергуха

and up to what maximum size can you glue beetles, and insects in general, to the die

well - ("Let's go in a simple logical way... - Let's go together!" E. Ryazanov (c)) if the collector sets a goal, or even assumes the possibility of selectively or completely selling the collection, then they will be more willing to take an absolutely intact copy - pasted, and if we make a "choppy" collection, then we put everyone on dies!! or we will stake everyone - perhaps not everyone will buy it on a pin, but there is a strict order-this pleases the eye ... but this is just a reflection on the topic, in fact, I, for example, could not cope with the diverging elytra of a pricked tanner-I began to glue, but the weevils are pricked with a bang, I almost prick everyone's weevils; I think everyone decides for himself ... Okay, we're talking about size, twenty-millimeters (and more) I have no hesitation go to the pin-like this.
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21.08.2011 14:30, AGG

and up to what maximum size can you glue beetles, and insects in general, to the die


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23.02.2012 19:11, Liparus

I am, in principle, quite satisfied with this (now fairly standard) mounting method.
Here, the bottom is clearly visible (of course, depending on the size of the die), and the instance is whole, and it is easy and simple to manipulate without special tools.

Sell me this staphylin. shuffle.gif

25.03.2012 8:10, Mantispid

What are the most commonly used die sizes for sticking beetles? 12x5 ?

25.03.2012 13:53, Aleksandr Safronov

What are the most commonly used die sizes for sticking beetles? 12x5 ?

The straightened beetle should fit completely on the die and not go beyond its border. Otherwise, the meaning of the die is lost. I use two sizes 6x20 and 8x25 for small beetles. And so-to whom as it is more convenient.
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25.03.2012 14:01, captolabrus

Usually, the dies are selected in proportion to the group of beetles intended for the sticker on them. The beetle should not protrude beyond the edges of the die, paws, whiskers, etc. Otherwise, it is pointless, it is easier to prick or glue on a triangle. That is, there is no universal die size as such, but there is a very variable size range from which to choose the desired size. Something like that, in my opinion.
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03.11.2012 21:40, Zunimassa

  


I don't like puncturing beetles.
I glue even large beetles on the dies, but they strive to scroll or skew the die, I
think you can prick 2 pins on both sides, just do something else so that the die with the beetle does not fidget between 2 pins, you can prick 1 more die below the labels, but it will help

This post was edited by Zunimassa - 03.11.2012 21: 44

04.11.2012 1:03, Victor Titov

I don't like puncturing beetles.
I glue even large beetles on the dies, but they strive to scroll or skew the die, I
think you can prick 2 pins on both sides, just do something else so that the die with the beetle does not fidget between 2 pins, you can prick 1 more die below the labels, but it will help

What should I do? A follow the advice:
it is better to glue the beetle to the box umnik.gif, and seal the top with a die lol.gif  lol.gif  lol.gif

But seriously, check out the "Photos of Collections" theme for Honza collections, at least here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...0&#entry1358662 If you are not too lazy and "scroll through" other pages of this topic, you will see other of his masterpieces. And what is characteristic: he does not bother with the problem of "fashionable-not fashionable". What is rational to prick-pricks, what is more rational and practical(!) to glue-sticks. Probably, no one will dispute: his collection looks excellent-both from an aesthetic and scientific point of view. And the problem of fidgeting dies is not worth it, which is not surprising: fanatical adherents of the sticker create this problem for themselves.

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08.11.2012 17:12, Bianor

So it will go, let's start sticking butterflies, not smile.gifpricking
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09.11.2012 10:04, Victor Titov

So it will go, let's start sticking butterflies, not pricking them smile.gif

And what? Quite real! On a narrow spot, from below-along, under the chest-abdomen. And the underside of the wings will be available. And? Supporters of the sticker, consider ratsuha! lol.gif lol.gif lol.gif
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09.11.2012 15:38, AGG

Late, guys, the theme of 2010 tongue.gifwell, I don't have any minutes
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if you glue along, then you won't get to the genitals later

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29.11.2012 22:14, vafdog

has anyone tried small beetles on minutsii?
if you have any photos, please...
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30.11.2012 11:56, RippeR

has anyone tried small beetles on minutsii?
if you have any photos, please...


one question - what for? If you pierce it with this hair, it's still short.
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30.11.2012 19:22, vafdog

one question - what for? If you pierce it with this hair, it's still short.


Yeah. Got it. I've never dealt with minutes. and I wouldn't worry about the length.
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27.01.2013 20:39, tiger33

Hello.It is possible to cut a bunch of dies from sheet PET transparent on a flatbed plotter, can someone tell me the standard sizes?

27.01.2013 21:56, Victor Titov

Hello.It is possible to cut a bunch of dies from sheet PET transparent on a flatbed plotter, can someone tell me the standard sizes?

Right here: http://www.entomon.ru/online/goodsGroup.php?id=4 the dimensions of the dies available for sale are indicated.

27.01.2013 21:56, AGG

and what (skoka) will I get for it? for each size I take 1000 dies, but with rounded edges! keep the rectangles. no.gif
all sizes are in any price list of any company, I do not understand what the question is wall.gif
but there are the most popular wink.gifones and I will outrage them wink.gif
Have you tested your material? on varnish, hercules, needles of different sizes, solvent (what), turbidity in xx years? what is the thickness of the die 20*10 and 10*5?
I have no doubt that many people can "cut" and including me, but I buy chic dies from Paradox. so what is your "exceptional" offer? and it must be exactly "exceptional" in order to occupy its niche in the market, and this is at least the same quality, for less money wink.gif

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28.01.2013 12:04, tiger33

And actually, did I write somewhere that I propose to make it to order? I was going to cut it myself, PET 0.6=0.7 mm thick. As for sticking needles, I haven't tried it-but it's quite viscous when cutting,so nothing should slide off in theory.

What is the material of paradox?

P.S. I am glad for your gorgeous dies)

06.05.2013 20:01, Zunimassa

I propose to discuss progressive ways to mount large beetles, without pricking on a pin.
I tried gluing on a die across the body, and inserting 2 pins around the edges.
As a result, the beetle does not spin and looks normal, but this design is still not stable enough and when pulled out of the box, the die crawls between 2 needles.
I had an idea to cut a small block of solid foam under the die.
So the beetles will be at the same height, the beetle will not cling to the bottom of the box with its paws, and the needles will be better held perpendicular.
So far, I haven't found the right styrofoam, but I thought that it might crumble around the pins and be of no use.
Need something like traffic jams maybe?
What does anyone think about this?

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08.05.2013 21:00, Oleg Belkin

Use foamed polyethylene instead of solid foam (such as a laminate substrate, available in any store of finishing materials of different thicknesses), elastic material, stable over time.

10.05.2013 9:30, Zunimassa

it would be harder to make the needles tightly held perpendicular to each other

04.07.2013 21:02, Zunimassa

any other ideas? I still haven't decided what to use for fixing needles under the die

28.07.2013 15:42, Чегар

So, the discussion of prick or glue turned into a manual "how to glue"? I have one very clever idea to say, but don't be offended.
It seems to me that butterflies are a painting, and beetles are a sculpture. With small things, all sorts of soft-bodied and other staphylins - everything is clear, but if you stick a normal beetle (from 8-10 mm), then instead of a full-fledged round sculpture, you will get a pathetic high relief. Half a beetle, half a beetle, a souvenir of a beetle.
Conversations about aesthetics are usually started by supporters of the sticker. A properly pricked and neatly straightened beetle does not need excuses. It is aesthetics itself, in its purest form. Only he is admired.
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28.07.2013 16:49, Вишняков Алексей


It seems to me that butterflies are a painting, and beetles are a sculpture.

Golden words! I think so too. But you must agree that any sculpture has a stand (pedestal, fulcrum, etc.). Do you like sculptures that hang in the air, impaled on metal pins and punched in the middle? And are there any such things?
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28.07.2013 20:07, Чегар

The comparison with the sculpture is not literal. A pin for a beetle (specifically for a beetle, not Michelangelo's David) is a " pedestal, fulcrum, etc." Yes, and when a sticker is placed on the die, the pin does not go anywhere. Well, this has already been discussed on the forum. The main thing is different: with all the costs of tattooing, the beetle retains the advantages of a" round sculpture " (this is the term, you can look in the search engine). The point is not even in the convenience of determining the species, but in the perception of the beetle in the form that nature created it. that is, completely three-dimensional. And imagine David in the form of a relief. Who would know about it?

By the way, there are sculptures mounted on pins. If I'm not mistaken, almost all the figures on the roof of the Hermitage are supported from behind by either supports or screeds. When viewed from the side, it looks like pins. But let the people of St. Petersburg correct me.

28.07.2013 20:10, алекс 2611

Golden words! I think so too. But you must agree that any sculpture has a stand (pedestal, fulcrum, etc.). Do you like sculptures that hang in the air, impaled on metal pins and punched in the middle? And are there any such things?

"...if you glue a normal beetle (from 8-10 mm), then instead of a full-fledged round sculpture, you will get a pathetic high relief. Half a beetle, half a beetle..."

I like the" sculpture hanging in the air " at least because I can see the bottom of the beetle at any time without the slightest problems. To determine this, it is often necessary.
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21.10.2014 20:43, misha volcov

topic...

21.10.2014 21:26, Maksim M.

topic...

Dofiga said, damn,....

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