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27.09.2010 5:23, Ele-W

Thank you.


You are welcome. smile.gif

27.09.2010 5:25, Ele-W

This is a dragonfly from the family Libellulidae. Neurothemis, or something. For Australia, the red-winged Neurothemis stigmatizans is indicated - perhaps this is it.


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27.09.2010 5:34, Ele-W

Temporary ones may also be suitable for them. If only the larva had time to develop. You can look for them-larvae-there. smile.gif


There may be problems with searching, because during the rains the rivers flood and you can't get to the rocks with caves, there are simply no roads.

So I tried to get there six months ago, but they didn't go further than this stream, the water rose more than a meter above the road.

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Magela Creek, Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. April.

The son, however, was satisfied, for four hours hung in the stream with a fishing rod. smile.gif

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27.09.2010 5:38, Ele-W

Here's another dragonfly from the Botanic Garden, since it's already handy. smile.gif

Neurothemis stigmatizans, самka.

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George Brown Darwin Botanic Gardens, Darwin, NT, Australia. June.

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27.09.2010 5:58, Ele-W

  
2 nephila or krugopryad something like that.


This one I remembered, it was already defined as St Andrews Cross Spider, Argiope. We have a lot of them in the bush and on the rocks. I have taken a similar photo in another place in a beautiful web.

27.09.2010 6:14, Ele-W

  
3rd skakunchik (Jumping spider) Is it hanging on a spider's web? These spiders don't weave it. Not on my side, apparently.


He was sitting in the middle of a large web. Maybe he's usurped someone's web, where all the corners and openings are braided.

27.09.2010 7:03, Ele-W

7. A spider that lives at the very entrance to the cave in a fairly bright place.

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27.09.2010 7:05, Ele-W

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Bardedjilidji Sandstone, Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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27.09.2010 7:11, Ele-W

In appearance, this spider, I think, is similar to Dendrolycosa icadius.

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Picture taken from here.
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27.09.2010 14:28, Ele-W

While filming, I accidentally touched the web a little, after which the spider quickly ran away and hid. And he refused to go out flatly.

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Bardedjilidji Sandstone, Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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27.09.2010 14:34, Ele-W

8. A spider similar to the previous one and also in the web "sleeve", only sat in a darker place and on stones of a different color.

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27.09.2010 14:35, Ele-W

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27.09.2010 14:35, Ele-W

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Bardedjilidji Sandstone, Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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27.09.2010 16:30, Arikain

Thank you again for the wonderful photos.
The spider from the site is similar to 7, but I can't say for sure. It builds a web, which is not typical for European species of the family. Both of them are on the web with the female's hand, and so is Skipper. Most skakunchikov small, no more than 1cm, I asked. There are several genera where the species are slightly larger.
By the way, I wrote about this site earlier.
The families are similar, especially the Dolomedes minor to the Lycosidae.
Skakunchiki usually can't quite move on someone else's web, but it was probably dense there, and not sticky.
The web of 7 and 8 is like that of spiders of the Agelenidae family, but judging by the site, they weave this and these, but I just didn't make out, there was a web with a tunnel on the site? And from the photo, it seems that the spiders are small, although on the site the size of similar ones is about 3 cm without legs. Is it possible that the spiders didn't grow up in the photo, or were they really that big?

27.09.2010 17:10, Ele-W

Thank you again for the wonderful photos.


You are welcome. smile.gif

27.09.2010 17:13, Ele-W

Most skakunchikov small, no more than 1cm, I asked. There are several genera where the species are slightly larger.
By the way, I wrote about this site earlier.


I just saw him today.

27.09.2010 17:45, Arikain

I just saw him today.
I don't know about the stickiness, I didn't touch it, but he moved on it deftly and confidently.
No, I didn't see any tunnels on the site.
Large spiders, 2-3 cm, I can't say more precisely, I didn't have a ruler with me.

I didn't see any tunnels either, and that was what confused me.
Size then yes, this is typical of the Pisauridae family. I'm not sure that Funnel spiders (Agelenidae) are capable of growing to this size, although it may be.
By color, I also looked at what it looks like. Light or darker tones, but the drawing is the same - it may just be intraspecific variability.

27.09.2010 19:10, Kharkovbut

There is not the same one, but it is exactly the same. They fly in all our parks and in the city too (in the Botanical Garden).
Yes, this is it - Neurothemis stigmatizans, there is no doubt now. The photo shows a male. Thank you for the photo, it's always nice to see dragonflies. smile.gif

27.09.2010 19:17, Kharkovbut

Here's another dragonfly from the Botanic Garden, since it's already handy. :)George Brown Darwin Botanic Gardens, Darwin, NT, Australia. June.
You will be surprised, but it is the same species, Neurothemis stigmatizans, only a female. smile.gif

28.09.2010 3:55, Ele-W

I didn't see any tunnels either, and that was what confused me.


This is the first time I've seen such tunnels, and only in this place. And on the site, the spiders were shot in a different national park, where the microclimate is different and the vegetation is different. There I have never seen webs of considerable size on the rocks, there is always everything on the trees-horizontal webs and tent webs.

28.09.2010 3:58, Ele-W

Yes, this is it - Neurothemis stigmatizans, there is no doubt now. The photo shows a male. Thank you for the photo, it's always nice to see dragonflies. smile.gif


Thank you for identifying me! smile.gif

You will be surprised, but it is the same species, Neurothemis stigmatizans, only a female. smile.gif


This is really-amazing! They are so different that I would never have thought of one view. smile.gif

28.09.2010 4:42, Ele-W

I'm still talking about spiders.

I didn't find any other insects in the cave, so the next finds are thirty kilometers away from the previous ones. Location of the action.

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Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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28.09.2010 4:44, Ele-W

If I understand correctly, all three subsequent spiders are St Andrews Cross Spider, Argiope.

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Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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28.09.2010 4:46, Ele-W

10. The place where the spider was found.

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Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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28.09.2010 4:47, Ele-W

11. This one is found in the rocks just below the previous one.

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28.09.2010 4:47, Ele-W

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Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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28.09.2010 13:48, Ele-W

And the last thing from this trip that can be attributed to insects. At first I noticed something black and incomprehensible high up on the rocks.

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28.09.2010 13:48, Ele-W

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28.09.2010 13:49, Ele-W

Bizko could not get close, there is a steep cliff and a negative angle. But at the bottom, I found this.

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28.09.2010 13:51, Ele-W

I take it the wax melted in the sun and everything collapsed under its own weight. Unfortunately, it collapsed a long time ago, since neither the owners nor honey in the honeycombs were observed. frown.gif

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Kakadu National Park, NT, Australia. September.
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29.09.2010 17:29, Arikain

Thank you for the photos, posted the address of the topic page with spiders in the corresponding section of the forum by definition. I will show the top spider on this page and the penultimate one on the previous one to people who are more knowledgeable on another forum, perhaps it will be determined most correctly or your definition will be confirmed.

30.09.2010 9:38, Ele-W

Thank you for the photos, posted the address of the topic page with spiders in the corresponding section of the forum by definition. I will show the top spider on this page and the penultimate one on the previous one to people who are more knowledgeable on another forum, perhaps it will be determined most correctly or your definition will be confirmed.


Thanks! smile.gif

02.10.2010 16:46, Arikain

To make it easier to determine the spider's gender:
It is quite simple to determine the sex of an adult spider by pedipalps. In males, unlike females, they are enlarged at the ends, rounded in shape, in the form of a bulb or similar shape. It is also possible on the underside of the abdomen, at its very beginning, near the cephalothorax, but this is more difficult, since spiders usually sit almost leaning against the surface.
Here, on the example of your spider:
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(The arrow indicates pedipalps (one of them))
With skakunchik also.
But this is only possible if the spider is an adult, sexually mature, or slightly younger. With small spiders, this will not work, but they can be on the abdomen.

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02.10.2010 16:55, Ele-W

To make it easier to determine the spider's gender...


Thanks! Next time, I'll try not to forget what to pay attention to when shooting. smile.gif
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02.10.2010 17:07, Arikain

Thanks! Next time, I'll try not to forget what to pay attention to when shooting. smile.gif

Also the abdomen of males, usually smaller in size than that of females, and in most cases they themselves are smaller. But this is only as an additional feature, since, in some species, males are larger than females. Yes, and with a hunger strike, the bellies of females are significantly reduced.

04.10.2010 16:33, Ele-W

Also the abdomen of males, usually smaller in size than that of females, and in most cases they themselves are smaller. But this is only as an additional feature, since, in some species, males are larger than females. Yes, and with a hunger strike, the bellies of females are significantly reduced.


It is necessary that they sit in pairs, and they are most often one at a time. smile.gif

04.10.2010 16:36, Ele-W

Twister, Tholymis tillarga?

Name of the submenu here.

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Litchfield National Park, NT, Australia. June.
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04.10.2010 17:31, Arikain

It is necessary that they sit in pairs, and they are most often one at a time. smile.gif

Well, yes, it rarely happens in pairs, usually they meet only during the mating season, and then they quickly disperse. This is, for example, the first roundworm on the previous page, according to these characteristics, fits the male, and he also has long legs, which also sometimes fits. But to tell for sure, you need to see the pedipalps or abdomen. Among roundworms, adult males are less common, because when they reach the age of puberty, they go wandering in search of a female, and usually do not build webs.

04.10.2010 18:41, Ele-W

Well, yes, it rarely happens in pairs, usually they meet only during the mating season, and then they quickly disperse. This is, for example, the first roundworm on the previous page, according to these characteristics, fits the male, and he also has long legs, which also sometimes fits. But to tell for sure, you need to see the pedipalps or abdomen. Among roundworms, adult males are less common, because when they reach the age of puberty, they go wandering in search of a female, and usually do not build webs.


I will stick to the abdomen and pedipalps. smile.gif

04.10.2010 19:00, Ele-W

Our bug is in the folder. I showed them recently, I forgot that one. I'm correcting myself.

Zlatka.

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Darwin, NT, Australia. September.
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