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Concept of development of protected areas of the Russian Federation until 2020

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18.08.2011 15:21, Penzyak

I'll try again...

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18.08.2011 15:27, Penzyak

...VERY strange - one at a time they started loading... But what if I attach the same photo - but on different pages, will the filter work?

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18.08.2011 17:12, mikee

We were very pleased with this year's trips to the" lost corners " of the Penza region!
We managed to visit and find new places where not only an entomologist, but also a BOTANIST did not set foot before us!??
It turned out that interesting places for an entomologist (preserved biotopes) should first of all be rich in floristics - so for botanists we found them as NEW (Adonis Volzhsky, sirenia gornaya ...) and very rare plants (Illyrian buttercup, large-flowered onosma...) which have not been found in our area for 60-170 years!! First of all, these places should be protected and given the status of protected areas!

Here's how to designate places untouched for 100 years, so a person's foot will immediately rush there... umnik.gif
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25.08.2011 12:54, Penzyak

If you already go to the Volga region for insects, then it is often in the Volgograd region, especially in the Trans-Volga places...

08.09.2011 9:48, Penzyak

So autumn has come, but we continue the field season... So on September 5, we managed to visit a long-planned entomologically interesting place in one of the districts of the region, the local name of the tract is "Kamennik". We couldn't believe our eyes - the largest bee colony known to date in the region was located in the cliff!!! This is where systematic research and the creation of regional protected areas are needed.

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16.09.2011 9:41, Penzyak

Here in Alib.ru they sell a very useful book on our subject:

Reimers N. F., Stilmark F. R.
Osobno okhrannye prirodnye territorii [Specially protected natural territories]. 1978. 295 p., ill., schemes. Hardcover, regular format. The price is 350 rubles
(BS-Fedor).
Specially protected natural areas - nature reserves, nature reserves, national parks, and resort areas. The book attempts to analyze the geographical, economic and some socio-economic problems of forming a network of these territories. The main idea of the authors is the need to create a functional system of protected areas that would ensure ecological balance and optimal development of the economy.
Condition: The binding is good, the book block is excellent.

06.10.2011 8:32, Penzyak

- very good books about nature... And the "Sand County Calendar" is generally considered a model in the poetic description of the wild!

Leopold Oldo, Robert McClung. Endangered animals of America.Sand county calendar. Green series. M. Armada-press 2000g. 480s. Hardcover, regular format.
(Seller: BS-bisky, Moscow.) Price 150 rubles.
This book by the famous American ecologist Aldo Leopold Calendar of the Sandy County consists of poetic essays that tell about the life of nature, about the richness and poverty of the earth, about the earth as a single whole, about the place of man in the fragile system of natural connections. American zoologist Robert McClung in his book Endangered Animals of America tells about the fate of various animal species that were threatened with extinction due to the barbaric attitude of man to nature.
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16.11.2011 17:41, Penzyak

..Oh, we watched summer travel photos at the regular meeting of the Penza branch of REO...
No matter how you look at it, for an entomologist, SUMMER IS A SMALL LIFE !!!

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12.01.2012 21:32, Wild Yuri

Good field conditions near Penza!
So many butterflies "hatched" all of a sudden.
There are whiteflies... Sorry, blondes!
And blackie... Brunettes are all around!

Golubyanki with eyes like the sky,
Dawns bear red lips.
I'd like a bigger net... Envelopes.
I would like to be a laboratory assistant to you! They won't take it... frown.gif
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13.01.2012 11:01, Vadim65

Good field conditions near Penza!
So many butterflies "hatched" all of a sudden.
There are whiteflies... Sorry, blondes!
And blackie... Brunettes are all around!

Golubyanki with eyes like the sky,
Dawns bear red lips.
I'd like a bigger net... Envelopes.
I would like to be a laboratory assistant to you! They won't take it... frown.gif

Put a five-thousandth bill in the envelope...

13.01.2012 12:57, Penzyak

Yuri, bravo!
Rzhem yak te koniki... well, just composed a poem! Well done! This requires talent - let's process your stories and you can/ SHOULD slowly post them online.
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17.01.2012 10:34, Penzyak

.. oh, something drew me to nature-the waters of the Penza hinterland, a winter evening...
Photos of our photographer, traveler and entomologist Dmitry Polikanin...

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17.01.2012 22:10, Vorona

By Mikhail Kretschmar is anyone reading this?

17.01.2012 23:48, Wild Yuri

  By Mikhail Kretschmar is anyone reading this?

Reading... Wild East. Bandit regional administration. Which covers all this and receives interest personally in your pocket. And local residents, not having a job in the village, go to collect wild plants and hunt. I've met them in the taiga. And what, he says, to do? There is no place to work, nothing to live on. Here at least I'll fill up the raisins - there will be meat, stew... The tiger and leopard are considered their blood enemies. Because of them, they say, these reserves where hunting will be impossible. They say in plain text: we need to shoot them, otherwise soon the whole region will be taken by "nature conservationists". There is a friend at the Gusevsky mine (now the territory of the national park), who at the words "tiger protection" almost misses by the breast. The tiger stole three dogs from him. One of my favorites. The owner was crying... He says: I would shoot them all! Let them live in zoos! They shoot like that... And not just sellers of" derivatives " to China. The region needs to solve the problem of rural unemployment. Then they will not live in the taiga and hunt, the number of game will increase, and the tiger will lose interest in our farmsteads. And the locals have a negative attitude towards him. In the meantime, predators are in power in the region, forests are being cut down, farms and villages are dying from their "management", and people are fleeing to central Russia. It creates nature reserves... For future generations. Right. I'm all for it. But I'm afraid there won't be anyone to live in them soon...

18.01.2012 0:36, Wild Yuri

There is also the problem of "hunter-gatherers". The huntsman of the Call of the Tiger National Park told me about it. Teams go to the outskirts of the park and bring down wild boars and raisins en masse. They sell meat. They arrange solonets and feeding places on the borders... They often hunt on the territory of the park! In the end, the beast was almost gone. There are no tigers either. Then why do we need this national park? Hunters don't have any licenses. All this is the local "bratva". Covered by the authorities. Law-taiga in Primorsky Krai. As long as there is no order in the management there, the laws will not be equal for everyone, nothing will change with nature protection. We need a normal government. Caring not for bandits, but for the common people. Executing laws. Then the locals will finally leave the "era of hunting and gathering", and the "cool" ones will think a hundred times before shooting the beast without a license...

18.01.2012 15:33, Penzyak

It's sad to see all this... what our mother nature has been brought to... yes, and our picture is not much better - forests are being cut down, beams are being dammed, water bottling plants are being put on springs, piles of garbage and garbage are full at reservoirs, traces of cars and wild people are everywhere...

And here we are going to buy more books by Yankovsky and Arsenyev in the almanac "Rubezh" (volume 1 and 2 are still out). We read and wonder what was-and what is now left of the former greatness of the nature of the Far East...
It's sad to see and realize all this... it seems that we want to sell this territory to our neighbors in the near future, like Alaska...

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26.01.2012 15:53, Penzyak

The question of the species belonging of the black beetle "living" in the Volga region until recently, which was defined by collectors as Erebia euryala Esp., 1805, remains open. In the Penza region, it is known for collecting 1 female (in my collection) collected by Yuri Starikov in old pine forests near Serdobsk in 1968. Here are two photos of that specimen (top and bottom) - then the species was identified by Antonova (Zoomuseum, Moscow State University). Yu Butterfly Collection Starikova was purchased by me from him in 2004 and entered the funds of the Zoological Museum of the Penza State Pedagogical University named after V. G. Belinsky (Penza). A little later, I sent Andrey Tatarinov photos of this butterfly to Syktyvkar and he confirmed that it was really black euryale.

At the bottom is a photo of the floodplain of the Khopyor River - You can see a huge floodplain forest where along the ancient sandy manes there are pine forests that once reached the right root (with a good upland forest) bank of the Serdoba River to the city of Serdobsk. We tried several times to find euryale in these places from the remains of pine forests, but alas, without success (and it flies in a year - as in other things and Lygia). It is also interesting that we do not find E. aethiops Esp on Khopra and near Serdobsk. - whereas in the Zasursky forests it is not uncommon (north-east of Penza). And what is quite interesting is that P. aegeria L. is quite common in two generations in oak forests near Serdobsk - we do not find it in other forests in the region???
Of course, you will need to cook the floor. app. of this butterfly... but it will hardly be possible to tell for sure from the females?

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27.01.2012 12:56, Wild Yuri

This is all about the theme of "retreating" borealism. About 70 years ago, jellyfish were caught near Voronezh, there was a peat yolk in the Usmansky bor, in the Lipetsk region there were hero sennits, etc. Many of these species have since moved north and east. The climate is changing. It becomes warmer and more humid. There were euryals once near Saratov and in other places. I am sure. But they won't be any more. frown.gif

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27.01.2012 12:59, Hierophis

"The climate is changing. It becomes warmer and more humid."
Shhh.. otherwise, he'll hear it ) It becomes so.. but so far too short wink.gif

27.01.2012 13:25, Penzyak

The climate is constantly changing... maybe so, but...
Did you know that the Penza region:
1. For a long time in the field of agriculture, it belongs to the zone of "risky farming"...
2. "Zasurye" - that is, what is located beyond the river. Sura and is the western macroslope of the Volga upland, is a forest area and there are still many boreal relics (both plants and insects)....
3. If it were not for the crook that seeks to cut down the entire forest in our area (already blackwood is being cut down in full for Ikea-see previous photos from this page), soon we won't find anything worthwhile at all...
... etc. Many boreal species we know and find new ones, now with during the hot summer seasons, they are not allowed to enter the forests... We are exploring the southern steppe and forest-steppe areas, there are a lot of interesting things....

28.01.2012 11:08, sergenicko

Finding Erebia euryale in the Penza region would not be particularly sensational - it is widely distributed in the taiga from Arkhangelsk to Udmurtia and throughout the Urals up to the Southern One. But there is one " but " that makes you doubt the correctness of the label. First. In the lowland Eastern European subspecies Euryala, the antemarginal bandages on the underside of the hind wings are strictly silvery-white, while in this female they are golden. Golden bandages are a sign of 1) circumpolar euryales (E. euryale euryaloides and E. e. flaveoides), 2) nominative Carpathian E. e. euryale. In the latter, the color of the sash is an individual sign, there are silver and gold. In the Penza region, euryals with a silver sling would be expected. Second. The label is suspiciously vague - "Penza region". Strange for 1968 (and not 1768!) year.
Sergey Nikolaev

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28.01.2012 13:40, Bad Den

The label is suspiciously vague - "Penza region". Strange for 1968 (and not 1768!) year.
Sergey Nikolaev

In general, the label says "Penza region, Serdobsk"

28.01.2012 14:29, sergenicko

Well, yes, I'm sorry, I didn't notice. But it's still a dubious find. If only the butterfly was wearing a silver sling... This color of the sash is a surprisingly stable sign. From Arkhangelsk to Udmurtia and across the Urals from Sredny to Yuzhny, the baldric is always silver. The Penza region is not separated from the more northern eastern territories by significant barriers, and it is natural to assume that the subspecies there is also a common Eastern European. Penetration of euryale in Serdobsk from the Carpathians is excluded, in the Caucasus euryale is not found. Did Yu. S. collect butterflies in the Carpathians?

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28.01.2012 17:20, Лавр Большаков

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...But it's still a dubious find. If only the butterfly was wearing a silver sling... This color of the sash is a surprisingly stable sign. From Arkhangelsk to Udmurtia and across the Urals from Sredny to Yuzhny, the baldric is always silver. The Penza region is not separated from the more northern eastern territories by significant barriers, and it is natural to assume that the subspecies there is also a common Eastern European. Penetration of euryale in Serdobsk from the Carpathians is excluded, in the Caucasus euryale is not found. Did Yu. S. collect butterflies in the Carpathians?
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How many such incorrectly labeled copies are there? put into scientific use and cause confusion! Already in the 19th century, there were such people. For example, the southern steppes in Tver province (euphemism and some others), and Krulikovsky in Vyatka.
Having joined the Penza region, I would still believe in euryale in the Kuznetsk district, but I will never believe in Serdobsky! until there are new fees.

28.01.2012 17:51, sergenicko

I don't believe it either. Euryala in Russia is a taiga butterfly. In the Carpathians and Alps, its lower boundary corresponds to the lower boundary of spruce and fir forests. Serdobsky district is ecologically contraindicated for it.

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28.01.2012 19:33, sergenicko

Laurel, by the way, for catalogues and in general for everyone's information. In the article Korshunov-Nikolaev about euryale " Taxonomic review of bulbous lepidopteran complexes Erebia euryale and E. adyte (Lepidoptera, Satyridae) / / Eurasian Entomological Journal, 3(1): 47-58, as in other articles of "late Korshunov", an almost absurdist division of species; I am attributed there only as the author of taxa. So, there are actually two subspecies of euryale in Russia - E. euryale euryaloides (=flaveoides) and E. euryale taiga (=zhuravskyi); euryaloides is a subspecies of euryale, not a separate species. At the same time, it seems that E. adyte is a separate species, and its eastern subspecies are the South Ural E. adyte ilmena (in the article E. ilmena) and the Carpathian E. adyte polonina. It doesn't seem to be possible to" dissolve " Adita in euryale - she has a stable combination of signs (drawing+genitals). In the Carpathian Mountains, adyte clings to the upper border of spruce/fir forests; in the Southern Urals, it is also high-altitude; in the Middle and Northern Urals, it is not found. P. Gorbunov objected to the division of Ural Euryals into two types, but it seems that he simply did not study the material enough.

28.01.2012 19:37, Лавр Большаков

Sergey, in the catalog of Korb and me exactly as you wrote and speak now, with links.

28.01.2012 19:50, sergenicko

Great! And then I commented on eneisov, but forgot about these. Polar Ural Erebia zaitzevi does not seem to be canceled, although there are no new catches. One might not believe in this species (and so I described it with different equivocations), but there was also a specimen of a special ("European", not Siberian type) kallias-tindarus, which was finally recaptured and described.

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29.01.2012 9:34, Konung

I don't believe it either. ... Serdobsky district is ecologically contraindicated for it.

in fact, such nonsense sometimes happens and is difficult to interpret.. for example, in the Omsk region, Colias palaeno (normal taiga) was caught both in the forest-steppe in the city of Omsk itself, and !!in the steppe, where he certainly has nothing to do. Moreover, there can be no mistake, because 4 copies. they were collected by a local rural collector who had never left the area. Also, Zegris eupheme near Omsk is a single population in a completely uncharacteristic biotope 500 km north of the previously northernmost border of its range. Such findings are unique in their kind and for many years of constant research are no longer repeated. A similar story is possible with euryale. who knows...

29.01.2012 10:15, Лавр Большаков

In cases with whiteflies, jaundice can be knocked up, they are prone to long-distance flights. I can't find the book quickly, it seems that the eupheme in disturbed places was recently mentioned in the Saratov region. In some cases, the winds sometimes help. Occasionally, there are probably drifts in transport (I have often seen small butterflies in train cars, "perezzhayuschie" from the south to us to the north, once under the radiator of a car I saw this.
But Euryals and even here we live Ethiopians, Ligeians more than 0.5-1 km from specific forest biotopes never fly away. From the taiga of the north Wed. The Volga region, and even more so from the Urals to the Serdobsky district, can not be its natural migration, but can there be drifts by winds? In my practice, the moth Arichanna melanaria was found 40-80 km away from its possible habitats-despite the fact that it never flew to the AWL with a screen 500 m from its biotope (there were about 10 such catches), and in the biotope itself it did not fly more than 50 m from the curtain of the forage plant.
But in cases where it was in the past, and there is no way to verify the facts, you have to doubt. Vaughn and Krulikovsky wrote about the finds of very southern species in Sarapul, such as"I saw it in the collection of so-and - so-he says he took it here." "Says" means there was no label! And now we have to exclude such species from the fauna. And how many of my completely conscientious acquaintances without intent "slipped" Caucasian, Crimean, even d-eastern finds allegedly from the Tula region.? It happens that during mass active collections and their processing, something accidentally gets "wrong" and an erroneous label may be pinned.

29.01.2012 12:12, sergenicko

It won't blow you up from the Carpathians, and the butterfly's habit is Carpathian. I watched big episodes from the Middle and Southern Urals and from the East."the European taiga, and I didn't find any with golden sashes. As for the palaeno in the steppe, this happened not only in the Omsk region (for example, see Kosterin-Ponomarev, 2002), but also in the Novosibirsk region: in the Shilovo village area on the left bank of the Ob River, a female was caught in an open area opposite a birch spike in the floodplain of the Tula River. lingonberry trees are apparently absent there. Moreover, note that only females are marked in the" steppe". New observations are needed.

29.01.2012 12:30, Konung

In cases with whiteflies, jaundice can be knocked up, they are prone to long-distance flights.

It happens that during mass active collections and their processing, something accidentally gets "wrong" and an erroneous label may be pinned.

As for flights - I will never believe that 4 specimens of palaeno were taken and went on a trip from the taiga to the south to the steppe "world to see" smile.gifall individuals were caught absolutely fresh! which is not possible on a long-distance flight.
Zegrys were also all assembled in almost perfect condition, and they are not so active flyers. In addition, it was not a single individual, but a whole series of 14 specimens!

As for erroneous labels, I have already written that a person has never left the vicinity of his village and there can be no erroneous label.

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29.01.2012 12:40, Konung

As for the palaeno in the steppe, this happened not only in the Omsk region (for example, see Kosterin-Ponomarev, 2002), but also in the Novosibirsk region: in the Shilovo village area on the left bank of the Ob River, a female was caught in an open area opposite a birch spike in the floodplain of the Tula River. lingonberry trees are apparently absent there. Moreover, note that only females are marked in the" steppe". New observations are needed.

the fact of the matter is that palaeno has been observed in uncharacteristic places repeatedly, which suggests a possible "alternative" food plant for the development of caterpillars clearly not from cranberries, but for this you definitely need to experiment with the trophic preimaginal. By the way, not only females, but also males were collected in our forest-steppe and steppe regions.

29.01.2012 12:48, sergenicko

The person did not leave, but they could have given it to him, he probably exchanged it with someone. We need to check if there are any butterflies from Ukraine in his collection. As for the palaeno, I have already written about it - the discovery of females in the steppe, apparently, is not an incident, but a fact from the life of this species. When you meet butterflies, you do not need to catch them convulsively, but carefully observe what they are doing there, what they are laying eggs on. Omsk caterpillars did not feed on the Holy spirit.

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29.01.2012 14:01, Wild Yuri

We live in an era of" boreal retreat "caused by a warming climate, an increase in air humidity (in addition to global climate "trends", this can also be influenced by the appearance of numerous reservoirs that have increased the evaporating water surface), as well as long-term successions that we have not yet studied. Biota can't be constant, it changes with the passage of time, but we often don't want to notice this. Historically, there were glaciers, tundra and forest-tundra on the territory of the European part of the country, then they retreated, a taiga zone appeared, then it also went north, leaving its cenotic foci in separate places of the emerging zone of mixed forests and forest-steppe. A hundred years ago, the Lipetsk Region had many lakes and sphagnum swamps left over from the Postglacial era. Some grew cranberries, blueberries, various types of wild rosemary, andromeda, lingonberries were found in the area... Now all this is going away, melting, disappearing, with the whole complex of" accompanying " fauna species. There are only a few sphagnum swamps and only two cranberry swamps left in the region, with a constant decrease in the number of plants in them, blueberries have completely disappeared, and there are few places where you can see wild rosemary... And now some people say: there was never a peat yolk in the Usmansky bor, a mistake! There was no black medusa! "Fake" individuals from somewhere! There were no Tullius hayloft, optilete pigeon, willow perelivnitsa, Apollo... But all these species were noted by respected" old " collectors of our region, for example, in the collection of the Voronezh Nature Reserve, which was responsibly and carefully compiled at all times. You just need to see the climatic and successional changes that occur over a long period of time, and not measure everything by the length of time in which you live. There were euryals in the Penza and Saratov regions. I am sure. Once. And maybe even 30 years ago. "Gone" to the north and east. Maybe they'll come back. With the next global cooling and" drying up " of the climate. Maybe...

29.01.2012 14:18, Wild Yuri

The person did not leave, but they could have given it to him, he probably exchanged it with someone. We need to check if there are any butterflies from Ukraine in his collection. As for the palaeno, I have already written about it - the discovery of females in the steppe, apparently, is not an incident, but a fact from the life of this species. When you meet butterflies, you do not need to catch them convulsively, but carefully observe what they are doing there, what they are laying eggs on. Omsk caterpillars did not feed on the Holy spirit.

I always thought that paleno develops only on blueberries. However, I saw on a Norwegian butterfly site that blueberries can also develop. A mistake? In the Usmansky bor, it was recorded many years ago in the area of the" relict " blueberry patch. Then he was gone. Not even the butterfly was gone.

29.01.2012 14:25, sergenicko

In general, it is true, but it is necessary to understand the details. Euryala in the places of its obvious habitat is ecologically connected with spruce forests, fir forests, and flies on their edges. The same applies to the "eastern half" of euryala-E. jenisseiensis. Euryale doesn't live on the edge of a deciduous forest. When the taiga retreated from the latitude of Serdobsk, Euryale naturally retreated along with it. Unlike Tullia, the optilian pigeon, she could not "get stuck" in the swamp. But then again the question arises about its subspecies affiliation. Against the background of a huge territory, where it has a stable sign of silvery baldrics, this instance is doubtful. Why Elijah isn't there - most likely she was just smeared with chemicals. It is a butterfly of the southern range, and its disappearance cannot be explained by warming. Iris is rushing across Siberia - last year it was already common in the Novosibirsk region. to the west of the Ob, and three years ago there was no information about it, only from Omsk. The same thing happens with the w-album (tail), and it runs along the railway along the elm (elm) plantings and has become common in cities (Omsk, now in Novosibirsk). There are all the theoretical conditions for peatgrass (paleano) in the Usmansky bor, which means that it is also a "human factor". A jellyfish in the Penza region is supposed to fly along the forest edges, there are no contraindications for it there (except for anthropogenic damage). But Euryale is in ocd. Serdobsk has nothing to do.

29.01.2012 14:25, Konung

I always thought that paleno develops only on blueberries. However, I saw on a Norwegian butterfly site that blueberries can also develop. A mistake?

I think that it can, because I myself have repeatedly observed it in blueberry forests, where blueberries did not smell.
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29.01.2012 14:27, Konung

The person did not leave, but they could have given it to him, he probably exchanged it with someone. We need to check if there are any butterflies from Ukraine in his collection.

this has all been tested for a long time.

29.01.2012 14:30, Wild Yuri

There are all the theoretical conditions for peatgrass (paleano) in the Usmansky bor, which means that it is also a "human factor".

No human factor involved! Butterflies were caught on the territory of the Voronezh Nature Reserve. Blueberries disappeared, and so did singe.

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