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Discussions on general taxonomy questions of the Insecta. Suggestions on the website database updates and taxa ordering.

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Macrosystematics of Lepidoptera (50) Vlad Proklov

Why don't we create a place for fucking discussions?Moreover, we were given a lot of reasons: here are two molecular articles full of surprises a little less than completely:Regier, J.C. et al, 2009. Toward reconstructing the evolution of advanced ...

30.12.2011 22:39 Vlad Proklov

You're talking about the formal side, but I was asking about something else, something high.And I think that there is nothing "high" in the ...

Drosophila (1) Vanguard

The task was to cross the lines drosophila Net and Purple(pr). It turned out to establish that the purple eye color of the Pr line is associated with gender, but with the distinctive feature of the Net line - wing venation, there was a hitch. Too ...

21.12.2011 14:08 Vanguard

The task was to cross the lines drosophila Net and Purple(pr). It turned out to establish that the purple eye color of the Pr line is associated with ...

Pieris (napi - bryoniae) complex: current status of the taxon (50) AGG

In a nutshell, the question is: what is Pieris bryoniae? More specifically, 1-Is this taxon a species? or a zonal subspecies / form of napi? 2-are there any works on genetics, etc. later than 2008? and which ones?3-who flies in Kamchatka-Piegis ...

13.11.2011 11:57 introvert

it would be better if you captured the whole gamut of transitions from briony to napi. I once scored 2 boxes from one place-in the north of Nizhny ...

How reliably we can determine if the species of an insect being sold is right (18) Oleg Belkin

Dear entomologists, this may be a somewhat naive question.How can you confidently state the subspecies of a butterfly in an envelope, even if there are discussions about the straightened one? Question on bulavousy and Parnassus in particular. It is ...

06.11.2011 14:48 Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

So your birmanica was recently described - you can take the description and try to look at the original source.

Taxonomy suicide? (30) Juglans

I read Boero's article:Boero F. The Study of Species in the Era of Biodiversity: A Tale of Stupidity // Diversity. 2010. V. 2.http://www.mdpi.com/1424-2818/2/1/115/Abstract: Research policies ensuing from the Convention on Biological Diversity made ...

31.10.2011 19:16 AGG

http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/syst2011.htm offer to discuss....

Find of insects during archaeological excavations (35) хильда

During excavations of the Sarmatian mound (1st century AD), a large number of organic remains were found at the bottom of a grave pit about 2 meters deep. We identified them as puparia of flies.Please contact our specialists to rate these photos. ...

24.10.2011 19:28 Dmitry Vlasov

I post a link to the finds of beetles from medieval Yaroslavl: http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/vlasarch.htm

I really need materials for the book (1) AVA

Dear colleagues!The following types of folded-winged wasps are very necessary for research:1. Polistes associ Kohl, 1898-both sexes.2. Polistes bischoffi Weyrauch, 1937-both sexes.The next request probably concerns mainly residents or visitors of ...

24.10.2011 11:41 AVA

Dear colleagues!The following types of folded-winged wasps are very necessary for research:1. Polistes associ Kohl, 1898-both sexes.2. Polistes ...

Literature on Lepidoptera (10) Dr. Niko

Dear forumchane!In this topic, I invite those interested to ask questions about various types of literature on biology, habitats, principles and problems of lepidopteran taxonomy.The fact is that I find almost only taxonomic trees of butterflies on ...

23.10.2011 16:26 lepidopterolog

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1...2148-11-109.pdf

Beetles of the Lower Volga region (35) Fornax13

Dear colleagues!Very much need information (especially primary descriptions and keys) about some beetles of the Astrakhan fauna!True, in most, far from the most banal... I would really appreciate any help. Carabidae: Elaphrus (s.str.) hypocrita ...

05.10.2011 23:15 bryodema

Thank you. this information is generally known. We were interested in later finds in the Republic of Tatarstan after 2006

Xylotrupes Hope, 1837 (3) collector

I hope that this list will be useful to many forumchanamwho collects this group.Xylotrupes Hope, 1837australicus Thomson, 1859beckeri beckeri Schaufuss, 1885beckeri intermedius Silvestre, 2004beckeri wiltrudae Silvestre, 1997clinias Schaufuss, ...

22.09.2011 19:05 collector

Bad Den - about the source ( as about the initial data of a scientific work, I can't say anything ). And what it looks like and how it got to me ...

"Similar species" of butterflies (5) Peter Khramov

Species descriptions often indicate "similar species" and what is different from them. I have the following question:Gentlemen, if View A is similar to View B and View B is similar to View C, can View A always be considered similar to View C?

15.09.2011 0:51 Peter Khramov

For the catalog, as one of the properties of the view, I need to fix the ability to specify views that are similar in appearance (i.e., what can be ...

Terms in English (7) Peter Khramov

Citizens, are there any well-established translations of the phrases "under the wings", "top of the wings", "dried specimen" (a butterfly specimen from the collection as opposed to a live one)?

04.09.2011 0:36 Proctos

, "dried specimen" (a butterfly specimen from the collection as opposed to a live one)?Probably you can write a pinned instance-pinned specimen

What about entomological atlases? (50) Konstantin Shorenko

I would like to see Formuchan's opinion about the presence of illustrations in entomological works. Whether you think that illustrations are necessary and should be published in your works as often and more often as possible, or whether "pictures" ...

02.09.2011 21:33 Vorona

Check out plantago's library. I did. But it's in German.

Adequate data structure for the description of a species in the Lepidoptera catalog (14) Peter Khramov

I would like to discuss the data structure on the page of the type of electronic catalog of lepidoptera and the system of linking sources to published information. To simplify the question, we will assume that the information itself is available, ...

02.09.2011 20:37 Peter Khramov

Proctos, thanks for the list. The number of features is impressive. Still, there is so much data to dig up...

Please help me to identify the insects (16) Yoksven

Hello. Well, I'll say right away, yes, I just registered and yes, I just registered to create this theme. But no, I do not intend to engage in advertising of any kind and will try to avoid allusions to sites or any trademarks, as far as the format ...

24.08.2011 12:14 Yoksven

Apparently, the final completion of the work will not happen so soon, but in general, information about insects will go ...

What online resource should I use to navigate the system of non-European butterflies? (2) Peter Khramov

For European, as I understand it, you can safely use faunaeur.org. Both the fullness and adequacy of the system are normal. Can you recommend something similar for non-Europe? And while there is nothing more universal than funet, but there are still ...

16.08.2011 0:21 Andrey Bezborodkin

I join the question. About faunaeur.org I think I'll agree.The flaws in funet are caused by the fact that this old resource, as it seems to me, has ...

Identification of the Lepidoptera families (3) Peter Khramov

Tell me, if anyone knows: is there somewhere a sane determinant or at least a catalog with descriptions of the families of lepidoptera of the world? Ideally-online, on bezrybye-offline? Ideally, all of them, and Macrolepidoptera on the fishless ...

12.08.2011 0:11 Peter Khramov

Denis, thank you for the tip-off. Indeed, for many families there is information...

Please recommend an atlas of Hymenoptera (4) Arahis

You can suggest an atlas on bees or hymenoptera in general. Or some "determinant with pictures-fotografimyami". I decided to understand a little about bees, but there is not enough time or urine to master the "professional" determinant.Thank you in ...

14.05.2011 18:38 Arahis

Good site. Especially photos by Josef Dvořák.Look. http://www.biolib.cz/en/gallery/dir388/It is a pity that the size of the insect is not ...

Hirokantia - what is it? (3) Hierophis

http://old.donbass.ua/get-news/id/5950/article.htmlAnd a few more similar notes from last year. A search for such a word does not give anything other than these notes, and there is nothing in Latin either.What kind of heromancy is this?

19.04.2011 22:24 Hierophis

It is interesting that this name, judging by the search on the web, has been included in the Internet press (and possibly in paper newspapers) since ...

Number of species (7) Seneka

Does anyone know where to find a resource on the Internet so that you can get(by default or by request to the database) a catalog of all known taxa with an indication of the number of known species, genera, families, etc.? Where do these mysterious ...

03.04.2011 11:47 Seneka

  http://files.mail.ru/LS8S03Thanks! It's a good book.

New European checklist for Lepidoptera (16) Alexandr Zhakov

There are several questions about the new European checklist:1. Who are the authors?2. Source data, where published, what to link to?3. What territories are meant by HDI regions:RU-KGDRU-FJLRU-NOZRU-RUCRU-RUERU-RUNRU-RUSRU-RUW?

27.03.2011 23:36 Kharkovbut

This is understandable; here: The Distribution atlas of European butterflies – - Oedippus 20: 1-342 edited by Kudrna dardanus goes as a species, ...

System location taxa (3) Svyatoslav Knyazev

As suggestions: I think that the alphabetical order of bringing families and lower taxa is completely unacceptable, since the site claims to be a serious comprehensive resource. It would be necessary to place all right relationship from primitive to ...

15.03.2011 20:28 Peter Khramov

Tellingly, no one bothers to make both choices. If someone is able to do an adequate breakdown of the primitiveness - there are no technical ...

Papilionidae (11) Dmitriy Pozhogin

People! Let's look at childbirth Protesilaus, Eurytides, Protographium (with Neographium together) and Mimoides. How we make them here ??? Or will integrate all-still Protesilaus, Eurytides, Neographium ???

02.03.2011 21:58 Evgeny Komarov

I agree with the interpretation of Dmitry!

In the course of discussing the status of the genus Protesilaus and beyond. (3) Evgeny Komarov

Start the discussion on the page and type Protesilaus protesilaus since it has grown, it has decided to continue here. And shifting the first post in a single "bunch " for clarity. 20-02-2011 Dmitry Pozhogin: remove this family 02.20.2011, Evgeny ...

21.02.2011 18:24 Peter Khramov

On funetah, I look, too, is cut ...

How to identify insects (33) Трофим

At first I thought to name the topic, an easy definition, then after reading everything I wrote, I realized that I wrote how to use the determinant. I don't often take him as a liar. Don't judge me harshly. Maybe someone will need it.Maybe someone ...

19.02.2011 18:06 Seneka

I will contribute my five kopecks to the discussion. In some determinants, the authors are quite free with plesiomorphic and apomorphic features. ...

Nabokov's point was confirmed (15) lerth

Neotropical golubenki Polyommatus are of Asian origin Vila et al., 2011, Phylogeny and palaeoecology of Polyommatus blue butterflies show Beringia was a climate-regulated gateway to the New World. Proc. R. Soc. B published online 26 January 2011 ...

08.02.2011 1:26 Kharkovbut

A selection of related photos:https://picasaweb.google.com/lepido.france/PierceNabokov#By the way, I strongly recommend other photo galleries (they ...

Rhode Parides (1) Dmitriy Pozhogin

I have finished the race. Still have questions in the following species-subspecies Parides perrhebus, Parides damocrates, Parides steinbachi, Parides kuhlmani, Parides polyzelus. Who has specific information about it, please write.

27.01.2011 19:14 Dmitriy Pozhogin

I have finished the race. Still have questions in the following species-subspecies Parides perrhebus, Parides damocrates, Parides steinbachi, Parides ...

Classification (2) Dmitriy Pozhogin

For what is the classification system ??? Combining many families in the Nymphalidae quite controversial, and to identify and seek out more convenient for families

09.01.2011 0:45 Peter Khramov

Dmitri, the basis of the system - the list of O. Karsholt, J. Razowski (eds.), 1996. The Lepidoptera of Europe: a distributional chacklist, provided ...

let's talk about Ornithoptera (6) Алексей Таланцев

This bird-wing is a hybrid from crossing O. Rothschildi and O. Priamus Poseidon. Unfortunately, I have never been able to see a single photo of this butterfly (neither male nor female), although I have been collecting birdwings for several years. If ...

12.11.2010 12:51 DYNASTES

A commercial group with a taxonomy as perverted as tomatoes I would even say super commercial. Sometimes you will look at the prices of some" ...

Taxonomy-revisions. How is this done? (2) Hierophis

A question for those who have worked or are engaged in revisions, what criteria are used to divide subspecies into species, criteria for transferring a species to another, previously existing genus?

08.11.2010 18:13 Proctos

Try reading the code:http://www.redbook.ru/zookod.htm

The Eurema genus (4) swerig

So I decided to define all my Eurema. If everything is more or less clear with the new world, then with South Asia-the roof is cracked. Can someone indicate the signs and differences (or suggest literature) for the following species Eurema adaEurema ...

06.11.2010 17:30 swerig

Abrera has something quite sour. And after looking at the Japanese site, I'm not sure if I have Eurema hecabe from India. Parag Rangnekar cites only ...

Contacts of specialists (14) EfimovRoman

Dear colleagues! I am interested in a systematic survey of a species of cover-nosed butterflies (Coleophora laricella). Based on morphological features, it is difficult to systematize, so we decided to resort to DNA analysis. can you tell me any ...

23.10.2010 12:07 vasiliy-feoktistov

What the they there (on spinnen-Forum) all Vasyami call?! Is this a joke of humor they have, or so it is accepted among spiderlings?Apparently the" ...

Micro-bastards from Ethiopia (5) Melittia

People, who can work with micros from Ethiopia? Write to e-meil Melittia.

11.09.2010 5:18 CosMosk

urgently!!!! there are students and postgraduates in UlSPU, Ira with Elasmidae'mi-where are you there??!!!

3 close species of Harpalus (illustrated key) (2) Алексей Сажнев

Perhaps the topic is a little out of place, but I hope this little work will be useful for novice entomologists and nature lovers, all 3 of the "green" harpalus species discussed below are widespread and common in European Russia, and are often ...

25.07.2010 21:14 Алексей Сажнев

Harpalus (s. str.) affinis Schrank, 17811, 2. males and females: photos from the site http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl, 3, 4. edeagus (side and ...

Evolution of insects (5) Sevastic

When did modern insect species appear?This post was edited by Sevastic-05.07.2010 12: 11

12.07.2010 5:08 Proctos

But the indications of modern species from Baltic amber are very doubtful. IMHO, of course.It depends on the group. In archaic cases, it is quite ...

Taxonomy of Lepidoptera (26) Сергей-Д

Who can tell from the latest taxonomy reviews whether the Arctiidae, Lithosiidae, and Synthomidae are separate families or all of the Acrtiidae together? Or false mottles separately? It's different on different sites, but there's still no consensus?

12.06.2010 18:59 Dr. Niko

And dipper, and volnyanki.http://pensoftonline.net/zookeys/index.php...ownload/414/400Yes, unifying taxonomy is gaining momentum, at least in recent ...

Methods of laboratory studies of lepidoptera (7) slid1960

Dear forumchane. Please tell me in what literature I can find a description of methods for studying lepidoptera by the structure of the copulatory apparatus, as well as methods for studying caterpillar chetotaxy and methods for studying lepidopteran ...

29.04.2010 22:20 slid1960

Yes, the question of methods for studying pupae is still open.If there is something in Russian, please give us a link.

Butterfly on an ancient mirror (50) Greykhan

Good day to you, dear forumchane. I am puzzling over the image of butterflies on an ancient Chinese mirror. let's say the plot is isolated and completely uncharacteristichelp us determine what kind of view it is... I assumed that this is some kind ...

04.04.2010 9:42 Greykhan

Not for attribution? Interesting and creepy. and not for attribution, I will post photos as soon as I find something interesting on the web . don't ...

History of the taxonomic affiliation of the tribe Necydalini (4) John-ST

Please enlighten me on this issue, here I read in the Net that the tribe Necydalini was until recently part of the subfamily Lepturinae, after which I got into a slight stupor. Having climbed in the net, I saw that on several American sites this ...

11.03.2010 17:21 KDG

That's right, this group is really very close to the lepturinae. and the structure of the genitals confirms this.so there is no big crime in the ...

Are Tarentla and Alopecosa synonyms? (3) Arikain

I found information about spiders of the Lycosidae family in the directory of the times of the USSR.There is one genus Tarentula, which is not found in other sources. The reference book does not include the genus Alopecosa, which may have appeared ...

06.03.2010 20:14 Tigran Oganesov

Yes, Tarentula is a synonym for Alopecosa. This is already in the determinant of spiders by Tyschenko (1971).

Pontia daplidice vs. Pontia edusa (7) Kharkovbut

I was looking through the recently published book "Butterflies of Mongolia"... If I understood correctly, there P. edusa is synonymized with daplidice "back to back" ... and no explanation is given. Can anyone comment on this?This post was edited by ...

27.02.2010 7:06 Ekos

Dear Kharkovbutt,I will try to answer your questions.Kharkovbutt: As far as I understand, the species were divided according to biochemical ...

Field Guide of water Adephaga of the Volga region (31) Алексей Сажнев

On my site http://assazhnev.narod.ruWe are preparing (for now a kind of "beta version") a determinant of water resources in the Volga region Adephaga - http://assazhnev.narod.ru/adephaga.htmlwe chose 2 forms - these are the usual theses/antitheses - ...

17.02.2010 19:24 Алексей Сажнев

Definitive table of species of the genus Porhydrus Guignot, 1945http://assazhnev.narod.ru/porhydrus.html

Dolomedes sp. (6) Arikain

Dolomedes fimbriatus, D. plantarius, D. triton are very similar, can they be identified from photos, and do they have any visible differences ? I tried to determine from the photo(1? 2. D. triton? 3. D. fimbriatus? 4.?)This post was edited by ...

02.02.2010 17:50 Arikain

Here is the link for plantarius http://www.eurospiders.com/Dolomedes_plantarius.htmNot all spiders of this species have stripes on the abdomen.

The Global Lepidoptera Names Index (6) Kharkovbut

I need to specify the Euphydryas (aurinia) saretensis taxon correctly. It was described by Staudinger, there is no doubt about it. But in what year? In the available literature, there is a complete discrepancy: 1871, 1878, 1879... I looked in ...

07.12.2009 21:25 А.Й.Элез

And to call it sareptensis Stgr.; to stipulate that the description is clearly late, it would be absolutely correct; and the year will still have to ...

Genus Aricia, boundaries of agestis and artaxerxes species (50) Kharkovbut

Can any of the participants comment on the EXACT boundaries between the agestis and artaxerxes (allous) taxa, if possible? For example, how diagnostic are the following signs:1) voltinism,2) coloring features,3) the width of the male's valva?Has ...

07.12.2009 16:27 bora

Three weekly cycles at +2...+4 with "thawing" for two days between cooling to +25...+28. The last time I raised the temperature to +35, the ...

Morpho sulkowskyi and M. ockendeni (4) Reanimator

Please help us understand what criteria are most likely used to differentiate Morpho sulkowskyi from M. ockendeni. As far as I know, M. ockendeni was previously considered a subspecies of Morpho Sulkovsky, but was later separated into a separate ...

04.11.2009 1:00 Reanimator

Andrey, I'll look again... there's not much information yet.thank you in advance

What genus does Lyristes plebeja belong to? (3) Юля

Please tell me what genus the Song Cicada (common) belongs to, Latin name Lyristes plebeja. On the Internet, various sources indicate the genus of Cicada (Cicada), as well as Lyristes and Tibicen, but they do not have Russian names! Or is it the ...

07.09.2009 10:45 RippeR

genus Lyristesspecies plebejaorder Isoptera suborder Cicadinea (Auchenorrhyncha)

Properties for the correct insect catalog filter (12) Peter Khramov

I highlight in a separate topic, because almost everything can be attributed not only to butterflies, but also so that the question is not lost.So, there is an opinion that the correct illustrated catalog should contain a set of features (by which ...

11.08.2009 17:53 guest: omar

Nevertheless, this publication has scientific value to this day. And at the time of its release, it was in high demand.

Where would Germana nigricauda fit correctly? (3) Peter Khramov

Again unsuccessful Googling... Y-yes, can you tell me any source on the Web where there is a system for this type, preferably detailed?

23.07.2009 13:59 Peter Khramov

Oh! Vasily, many thanks.

What subfamily does Rabtala splendida belong to? (5) Peter Khramov

Actually, the subject... As much as I've seen in Google — everywhere only up to the family...

01.07.2009 12:40 Pavel Morozov

To avoid confusion for educational program purposes:In modern works (Schintlmeister) marching silkworms (Thaumetopoeinae) They are NOT included in ...

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