Phalonidia contractana (Zeller, 1847)

01.06.2014 5:23, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Once again I remind you:
Peter, by my discovery in exactly the same Makar (one photo) Set a new MO for the kind of beetle-barbel. True discovery is published here and there in the literature (already mentioned this). So that everything is fine in my opinion: it is necessary to specify the region.

01.06.2014 3:29, Vasiliy Feoktistov

About this family can not say vagrants. You can tell a rare :) Nakhodka there is a fact. And you need to put even after a finding as this suggests that the species in the region is. More meeting: I will keep in mind itself-a :) Let's stop unnecessary controversy.

01.06.2014 2:22, Yuri Semejkin

Some determinants in such cases say - rare, vagrants.

01.06.2014 1:07, Peter Khramov

I've been to this: can we consider the individual once encountered a sure sign that the species is typical for this area? Surely the mark of the region can be safely put just one meeting? It's not that infa kata Sineva dogma ... And of course, that this info is necessary to supplement (and it is for the regions to set the mark).But whether you want to put after one finds?

31.05.2014 21:18, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Yes, I now will do so :) Just recall the case with the notorious beetle, which I found on my balcony, and at that time it was not specified for MO in the "List of longhorn beetles of the Moscow region" ML Danilevsky :) It's true copies.I gathered, but still it is still in my collection is, and it took only a photo, to prove that the species is in the MO :)

31.05.2014 21:06, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil, the fact finding confirm the type picture, sorry of course that is not collected butterfly, but not necessarily, ornithologists have long abandoned the poultry carcasses, to confirm the findings. No need to ask Peter to bring in more and 8 region of blue, it's not there, but you yourself can make an entry in the distribution of "Moscow region." personal information.It is very good that the site is in front of and investigated the distribution point, already it's time to write an article about the new findings based on site .... http://lepidoptera.ru :))

31.05.2014 20:39, Vasiliy Feoktistov

I do not understand .... When a fait accompli hence should be taken for granted. And any type of dogma Sinev year 2008 there should not slow down. Time passes, insects and even expand the areas of trust, they do not know what the administrative boundaries established by man :) Either Therefore remove all photos: we assume that the findings were not ....Let all of Sinev will, if it's so important :)

31.05.2014 20:30, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, and perhaps of the leaf are migrants? Is there not a fact?

31.05.2014 16:09, Peter Khramov

Hmm. Where is the line between casual / vagrants and trend, however? ..

31.05.2014 6:51, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, we must add eight regions (# 8. The European Central). Base here: http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/10467
Ahead Sinev go wide tread :)