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Photo #22297: Pieris melete


Pieris melete

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Base gallery. Lateral/Underside. Alive insect.

Photo: Yuri Semejkin. Image without retouching at the website. Identified by: Irina Nikulina

Date and time, location shooting/catching: 2013-06-04 00:00:00, Владивосток, Академгородок

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24.03.2016 22:11, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Pieris / Yuri Semejkin Pieris melete / Irina Nikulina.

24.03.2016 22:10, Vasiliy Feoktistov

When some people speak of it no doubt. And the question for a long time it is time to close.
That's close :)

24.03.2016 21:56, Peter Khramov

Irina first suggested about melete. That's authorship. Unless, of course, there is no doubt about the accuracy of determination.

24.03.2016 21:48, Vasiliy Feoktistov

As will be clear from such discussions, who identified .... then appear and will be rescheduled :)
Eugene, maybe you will deal and put a full stop?
I get lost (

24.03.2016 20:42, Evgeny Komarov

And what is a photo still hangs before the race? Well, obviously the same for melete blackened veins. Well there is no such at Dulcinea. Or something I do not understand?

06.11.2015 10:39, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Pieris melete in my opinion

05.11.2015 13:47, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Lepidoptera / Robot Pieris / Yuri Semejkin.

05.11.2015 9:30, Fedor Ovechkin

Determination to kind of have. Same as # 22298

02.01.2014 15:43, Ozgur Kocak

Pieris napi (pseudorapea). But according to location and altitude may be bryoniae??

01.11.2013 6:00, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Nowhere will not endure. It does not put in place appropriate such definitions. Only just compete back and forth. 40th Region: however. All: fading on the day (work).

31.10.2013 22:37, Sergei Kotov

Pieris melete (inaccuracy)

31.10.2013 22:02, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Pieris brassicae / Confidently identified / Yuri Semejkin Not identified.

31.10.2013 22:00, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Not identified Pieris brassicae / Confidently identified / Yuri Semejkin.

31.10.2013 21:59, Irina Nikulina

Well, do not tell) Breakthrough indisputable. And dulcinea with melete ever surrender)

31.10.2013 21:36, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Eh .... Any rake "Augean stables" does not work :(

31.10.2013 21:33, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Pieris brassicae / Confidently identified / Yuri Semejkin Not identified.

31.10.2013 21:32, Vasiliy Feoktistov

In so vague in nepredelёnnye :)

31.10.2013 21:31, Irina Nikulina

Indeed, as Eugene said- "It is clear only that it is not brassicae") ought to it from brassicae in the undefined yet. (Itself still tend to P. melete)

30.10.2013 12:14, Yuri Semejkin

Dilemma melete / dulcinea. Anyone can still explain the difference between them?

07.06.2013 4:26, Yuri Semejkin

Evgeny, thanks! At least the thing started moving. I'll try to ask local experts here, just matter of time. If there be something cleared up, I'll add the info.

07.06.2013 3:42, Eugene Karolinskiy

Dunno. :) Melete/dulcinea dilemma always puzzled me. :) I'm not a pro in Far East and, bluntly speaking, now have no time to dip into these nuances. Later maybe. Clearly evident only this is not brassicae.

07.06.2013 3:12, Yuri Semejkin

06.06.2013, Evgeny Karolinsky:

Agree. One of these two.
Evgeny! Let's try to clear this up. Basing on the identification guide.
1. Pieris dulcinea Butl. Looking at the ID guide, we can say that dulcinea has specific dark dust around veins which (dust) can be as wide as narrow, often narrowing to the margin. Let's not rely on spots which can be as well absent. Seems like fits dulcinea, just one con: that very yellow spot at its wing apex. The ID guide says nothing about that spot. Now dulcinea is out whilst on this website butterflies with such spot do belong to dulcinea species.
2. Now let's check P melete/
What's common? This one as well as dulcinea can have no black spots on its underside. Venation seems mainly the same.
Distinctions: there is nothing about fringe around veins on its underside (as opposite to dulcinea). Turns out that P. melete has no such fringe?
Secondly, it's said to have orange or yellow spot at its wing apex (whilst dulcinea is not described as having such a spot).
If this yellow (orange) spot is specific in P. melete, there is an immediate question. Can this spot be a key to reject P. dulcinea right away (sure if dulcinea undoubtedly has no any of the kind)?
In whole, I still lean to P. melete. Yet if compare descriptions of these two species, there is something in-between. Neither this, nor that.

07.06.2013 1:26, Yuri Semejkin

06.06.2013 18:57, Petr Khramov:

And at exactly it with such conductors?

06.06.2013 22:31, Irina Nikulina

I wondered immediately after the statement, but the objection was waiting spec-s. I think it melete.
Very characteristic orange stain at the root of HCC.

06.06.2013 22:17, Eugene Karolinskiy

dulcinea / melete

06.06.2013 18:57, Peter Khramov

And at exactly it with such conductors?

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