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Photo #38992: Ideopsis similis

Male

Ideopsis similis

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Base gallery. Lateral/Underside. Pinned specimen.

Photo, and identified by: Alex Dumchus. Image without retouching at the website

Date and time, location shooting/catching: 2015-02-05 00:00:00, Vietnam, Nha Trang, Doklet

Comments on this image

06.03.2016 0:40, Dmitriy Pozhogin Corrected data.

Ideopsis / Imago Ideopsis similis / Male.

19.08.2015 14:50, Peter Khramov

1. The right to block 3 times used Ideopsis sp. And now we presented all together, instead Ideopsis sp there is not written to certain species of the genus.
2. To all register for a program you need to specify the names of all taxa in the genitive (genus - genus, etc.)
3. In general, our users can be divided into 2 groups.First - people who are more or less aware of the Latin, the tree zootaksonov, binomial and sp. Second - people who do not know or have heard about all of the above just too vaguely. I believe that people who even know what was meant by "kind Ideopsis», understand and what Ideopsis sp., Especially in the context of those pages where such designation is used.
And let's have already agreed that the site is in the first place for people (and with them), that a keen interest in our theme, and aware of the use of Latin.Yes, we consider (and most welcome and respect) members of the group "found / found a caterpillar in the country, tell me, what kind of a fly," but not enough to register all the necessary explanations in the interface is not 3 times and 5.
ZY A glossary, FAQ, and other areas with the work on the site, of course, necessary. Here I support the idea of ​​Basil.In insects are definitely going to implement.

19.08.2015 14:34, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Kindergarten some you lit here))) About sp.- one who does not know what it is, and he does not understand! On the other hand, one who does not know what it is - and the view from the gallery will not be able to determine sp !!! Just if you write "undetermined species of the genus to species" instead of sp, all "inhabitants" would be clearer what it is. And for many ordinary people here advocated)))

19.08.2015 14:25, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil again and slowly repeat. And here geography? I about it and not say a word.
You did not like sp. and you decided to translate it and replace. I said that it is appropriate to change the other cuts in foreign languages ​​in the Russian text, you began to talk about labels. I tried to return the conversation to the site, you criticize geography.I brought Russian proverb, about that. that the two interlocutors, talking about various things, and briefly summarized their views. I was somewhere not correct? or inconsistent? Where categorical? I expressed one opinion and one. You began to publish in large letters, the discussion in the network is a cry! Why did it happen?

19.08.2015 14:12, Vasiliy Feoktistov

God be with him, to the beach, of course. It is on those occasions when it is possible to specify: means it is necessary to specify. Laos I have no such possibility (I will not explain the reasons).
Dmitry, if you have noticed a majority of photos (which he collected) I have given data to the maximum.

19.08.2015 13:57, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Basil! What for you to the beach? You won with Laos in general are not the label hung)))

19.08.2015 13:42, Vasiliy Feoktistov

19.08.2015 12:45, Alexander Zhakov
Culture discussion:

Sledutset this.
19.08.2015 11:35, Alexander Zhakov
I'm talking about Thomas, and you're about Eremu. Title change is not necessary.

Alexander, that's so categorical and claiming one opinion And this blog as your culture and work.

19.08.2015 12:27, Vasiliy Feoktistov
I should be the headline.
(again, the same is generated categorical your post)
Indications are that the title should be changed to match the two opinions: Dmitry and my :)
Certainly not over yet, and the discussion continues.

19.08.2015 13:32, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander, well, that's one to "Beach Doclet" that was immediately clear without resorting to Google.
I for example in Vietnam was not (as many): wherefore I know not, what it represents the Doclet :)

19.08.2015 13:20, Alexandr Zhakov

My question is a little to the side :)
Peter, why are not shown in the photo 38,991 Ideopsis, only 4 photo Ideopsis sp.

19.08.2015 13:04, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Something I had lost the thread of the dispute)))

19.08.2015 13:02, Alex Dumchus

I do not understand, Vasily. Are you think that under this kind geogr.infy enough? I'm not worried over the latitude and longitude in the tropics and do not carry a navigator, and so in the heat of forty enough net, box, photo, water bottles. And I do not need it. And who wants that will find in Google. There Doclet Beach only 8 km long. A range from butterflies, almost all yuvaziya

19.08.2015 12:45, Alexandr Zhakov

Culture debate:
19.08.2015 0:19, Vasiliy Feoktistov
However, it obsuzhdamoe.
19.08.2015 12:27, Vasiliy Feoktistov
I should be the headline.

19.08.2015 12:27, Vasiliy Feoktistov

That Dmitry offered essentially the same thing as I: "Pictures are not certain kind of _____ to type" is the same meaning as "indeterminate species Photo Ideopsis".
Dmitry, thank you for your support :)
Alexander, the title must be changed.

19.08.2015 11:35, Alexandr Zhakov

I'm talking about Thomas, and you're about Eremu. Title change is not necessary.

19.08.2015 11:34, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Yes, probably still need to write "Photo not certain kind of _____ to form"

19.08.2015 11:14, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Oh well, let everyone writes as he sees geography: the material on the site author.
Alexander, if you think that geography no sokrashennyh explanations for the butterfly under discussion which carries a fine and clear all the information I applaud you. It's just the example did not have far to walk)))

19.08.2015 10:55, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil, it is not about labels, but a site where space saving is not necessary, and it is bilingual. and which comes to a large Number of people who has no idea about these entomological widgets. Science, this site does not give, this is unscientific.A label under the butterflies look only entomologists, these cuts they are clear and in any language and location there is really need to save. :)

19.08.2015 10:45, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Well, then you have to enter on the site Dictionary Latin common terms that are used throughout the world in entomology, regardless of the language in which the label is written. I believe that there is no need to enter a Latin transliteration of Russian letters on the labels. If it is written leg. once it is clear who has collected :)
So labels are written here: http: //www.zin.ru / Animalia / Coleoptera / rus / miamarkm.htm
Rules (which is not) the same for beetles and butterflies.

19.08.2015 10:06, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil, here are a few is not the case, given the genus name in Latin and the abbreviated name of "view", also in Latin sp. All is well, and so on all sites. Who does not understand that and it is not clear what it means "Photos indeterminate species Ideopsis" Your amendment rather refers to the Russian text with a Latin abbreviation: leg., Det. :)))

19.08.2015 0:19, Vasiliy Feoktistov

That's fine. Thank you, Peter :)
Just left my rename it title from the "Photos Ideopsis sp." in "Photos indeterminate species Ideopsis"
Still, life in general and I think that most people simply do not know what is the Latin abbreviation for sp. It will be immediately clear to everyone in my opinion.However, it obsuzhdamoe.

18.08.2015 23:51, Peter Khramov

No "folders" then, of course not.
On business. Who made as follows.
For example, photos Ideopsis sp .:
1. Page One photo Ideopsis sp .: the right will go the other foty Ideopsis sp., As well as a link to all the pictures Ideopsis sp. in large size on a single page. At the same time everywhere and anywhere Pista, it Ideopsis sp.Therefore confusion due to the fact that it may be different species should not occur.
2. The kind of page Ideopsis .: beneath subsidiaries taxa gallery is small thumbnails of all photos Ideopsis sp., As well as a link to all the pictures Ideopsis sp. in large size on a single page.

18.08.2015 21:33, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Theoretically, the folder is already there. In her writing.
Just have to like folders located on the page sorts:

18.08.2015 20:42, Dmitriy Pozhogin

On the page you need to kind of make a folder sp

18.08.2015 20:33, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Typically, in such a case they should fall on the page sorts separately rather than creating a separate page where they fall all together despite the fact that it is very likely different kinds of butterflies
Peter, if it is technically possible, it is necessary to be implemented. Unusually .....

18.08.2015 19:49, Alex Dumchus

On the page of the form, I have seen. And that's kind of on the page no. Disorder.

18.08.2015 19:36, Alexandr Zhakov

Alexander, it's not on the page kind, and on the page of photos, t. E. This right: 4 photos of the same kind, to a certain kind.

18.08.2015 19:30, Alex Dumchus

Vasiily explain where on the page kind of "Other photos Ideopsis"

18.08.2015 18:50, Vasiliy Feoktistov

But the right and the right to search. More photos Ideopsis is called :)
Of course it is not good (((
It is necessary, as rightly noted Dmitry to certain to fall directly into the kind of race to which they are defined, and nowhere else.

18.08.2015 18:20, Alex Dumchus

Well, yes, I support Dmitry where to look for something?

18.08.2015 16:47, Dmitriy Pozhogin

He went into the race Ideopsis. I did not understand where certain kinds ONLY to hang? Let's say I'm an expert on this idiotisam, entered the race, looked all gud. Neoprelennyh to species not (((

17.08.2015 23:56, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Not identified Ideopsis / Confidently identified / Alex Dumchus.

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