Photo #40585: Choristoneura hebenstreitella

16.06.2015 17:05, Alexandr Zhakov

To this we must aspire. :) I took the same view. but just omitted the right wing. but the quality of copies. and the quality of the photo. Do not compare higher ... :)))

16.06.2015 16:59, Vasiliy Feoktistov

So I had in mind some strictly defined as a measure of the angle (for example, the upper wing)
So what you're written a certain framework is not justified and only aesthetics :)
By the way: tortricidae that you bring as an example of the same is expanded somewhat asymmetrically :) Once again proves that it is very difficult to guess ....

16.06.2015 16:50, Alexandr Zhakov

I mean that valuable collection of its instances, regardless of the quality of the material. everything depends on the aesthetic taste of the owner. On the site if the expanded specimens, the only suite exceptions below. Basil, the lower wing should link up with the top with a very small gap, ie,Immersed certain position does not depend on the taste of distending, look at your favorite book of Fig. 50.

16.06.2015 16:34, Vasiliy Feoktistov

I agree but usually just hard to guess the angle. And then, after removal from raspravilki can easily lead (affected by temperature, humidity: in short everything). Sometimes I have to lift up the wings in the hope that they will fall over time, but do not fall .....And then once again soaked material with a high probability to lose as (((
Thank God that this angle applies only to the lower edge of the front wing with respect to the axis of the body. On the corner of the hind wings there is no criterion: it is a matter of taste))

16.06.2015 16:21, Alexandr Zhakov

If the photo is displayed on the site, which is meant to be watching hundreds of thousands of people, it is important to have everything straightened butterflies must have angles of 90 deg., And not how it happened. Exception. for unique species and a stretch for the first picture for the species.
http://www.lepiforum.de/bh/finnische_falter/Choristoneura_hebenstreitella_1.jpg

16.06.2015 16:07, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Collect the series and work out. The truth on the micro itself is not enough: to be honest (dead matter "with protractor" angle display). Most importantly, it does not quality raspravki (in many large collections of material and does not straighten to save space), and the view of the butterfly itself.

16.06.2015 16:03, Alexandr Zhakov

Good micro straighten that flea shoe :). Although it is gigantic Micra, it is still difficult. I saw how the pros work on micro and Sinev Bidzilya. I have so much patience when there was none. I straighten the same: how to succeed. It turns out sometimes good, but more so here.And if the night before a hundred prick and spread, then the quality of the technology and not chasing the number of sharpened. :(

16.06.2015 15:56, Peter Khramov

And we can get! Experience - son of the first practice makes perfect!

16.06.2015 15:16, Alexandr Zhakov

For many it is better not turn out, and a little bit is not necessary. one is already there. :)

16.06.2015 0:17, Shamil Murtazin

I'll try to straighten it, it may turn out better than the last time =)

14.06.2015 23:00, Shamil Murtazin

By drawing only to navigate. Thank you for your determination.

14.06.2015 18:36, Alexandr Zhakov

Thank you, but the question was empty, both types can be on apple. In Pandemis cerasana pupa is very different. :)

14.06.2015 16:44, Shamil Murtazin

Apple, Alexander, apple =)

13.06.2015 20:21, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Not identified → Choristoneura hebenstreitella / Confidently identified / Alexandr Zhakov.

13.06.2015 20:15, Alexandr Zhakov

Caterpillar with a tree?

12.06.2015 20:39, Shamil Murtazin

Pandemis cerasana?