Photo #58397: Archips xylosteana

04.07.2016 15:40, Yuri Semejkin

For A. dichotomus, , - I didn't find a snapshot either. Only the pic is in the determinant and it is different. But nothing, there will be material, it will be possible to compare species over time. Maybe one of the entomologists will throw it off. Complicating matters is that many leaf wrappers only describe the genitals and not a word about their appearance.

04.07.2016 15:07, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Archips / Yuri Semejkin → Archips xylosteana / Alexandr Zhakov.

04.07.2016 15:06, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes, Archips xylosteana is more suitable, but there are still doubts about A. dichotomus, although the difference is clearly indicated in the determinants, I would like to see it in the photo, and not in the b / w drawing. But I can probably handle it. and there we will think more.

04.07.2016 14:23, Yuri Semejkin

Alexander! I looked at the drawings. With your version of Archips xylosteana, I agree, All others are not suitable.

03.07.2016 18:12, Irina Nikulina

When I examined my summer seaside Archips in detail, I found all 15 images of males + descriptions and almost all (13) of females. The first impression I got yesterday from this photo is that we should look for exactly among these three - dichotomus, fumosus and issikii. But in issikii (it even has A. abietis synonyms), the caterpillars live and feed exclusively in the interwoven fir needles (in Abies holophylla here, and in Japan and Korea also on A. concolor and A. firma), and in fumosus they also live in the interwoven needles of A. nephrolepis and A. sachalinensis firs and even the pointed yew (Taxus cuspidata) and Ayan spruce (Picea jezoensis). In addition, in issikii, the pretornal band does not reach the costal inversion (descriptions and good drawings are also found in the Identification of Insects of the DVR, vol. 5, part 3). In dichotomus, the caterpillars are omnivorous, but there is a good image in the same place and according to the description, one of the signs is a dark pretornal stripe that does not reach the costal inversion. I reviewed and read the descriptions of all the others and, I think, Sasha is right, I would also say that this is Archips xylosteana. The caterpillars are omnivorous and have been found on almost all woody plants of broad-leaved forests, including Populus. Well, or something really not from the Catalog, some doubts still exist. Here are such considerations a little in a hurry) When you get your hands on it, you should add all the information to the species descriptions, including forage plants.

03.07.2016 14:11, Yuri Semejkin

Alexander! Thank you for the list ! There may not be a species in the catalog, but when the genus is known, it sometimes becomes easier to find out the species. Otherwise, the whole thing hangs indefinitely.

03.07.2016 13:43, Alexandr Zhakov

Yuri, drawings to find half of the problem: dichotomus Falkovitsh, 1965 not found at all, fumosus Kodama, 1960 and Archips issikii Kodama, 1960 for these two, one museum specimen each. By the way, the latest issikii Kodama, 1960, is also similar :) maybe something that isn't in the catalog is also an option.

03.07.2016 13:17, Yuri Semejkin

Alexander ! If it is not difficult, throw a list of these 3 not found species. Maybe I'll find some drawings somewhere.

03.07.2016 13:02, Alexandr Zhakov

Probably Archips xylosteana, there is nothing else like it, but there are three types of images that I did not find.

03.07.2016 11:06, Alexandr Zhakov

Everything is correct, we are waiting for who knows what, more precisely, we know-the correct definition, but it is not clear who will make it. There are no questions about European species of this genus. In Primorye, there are many questions, I am not ready to dive into many hours of searching, possibly without results. Maybe someone who knows and is interested in the fauna of leafworms of the DV will come and decide everything. :)

03.07.2016 10:47, Yuri Semejkin

Good Alexander ! We are waiting, but who is it ? We practically do not deal with leaf wrappers. And to look on the Internet, it sometimes seems to me that there are almost no DV leafmakers on the Internet. .No matter how I start looking, it's not the same. Yes, I still get confused in them.

03.07.2016 10:39, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Tortricidae → Archips.

03.07.2016 10:39, Alexandr Zhakov

This is in my opinion not Archips rosana, what kind of 15 Archips 40 region? I don't know this view, I won't repeat the images again, I'll move them to the genus and wait :)

02.07.2016 2:56, Yuri Semejkin

Archips rosana (Linnaeus, 1758) ?