Photo #59697: Furcula bicuspis

03.12.2016 14:21, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Female → Male.

03.12.2016 14:19, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Lepidoptera → Furcula bicuspis.

01.09.2016 13:02, Yuri Semejkin

Based on the remains of fragments of bandages, partly on the shape of the body, I believe that this is Furcula bicuspis (Borkhausen, 1790)

01.09.2016 10:39, Evgeny Komarov

^)))))!! Exactly the same!

01.09.2016 10:26, Alexandr Zhakov

You will all laugh, everyone knows this butterfly, but it is tortured to such a state that it is not possible to recognize it. I already wanted to break all the Far Eastern Crested birds by Schintlmeister A. Notodontidae, but then I noticed the unsemitricity of the pattern, hence the conclusion that the pattern is erased, but what was it? Drawing the main color is white, not a large butterfly-Furcula unambiguously, the type here is of course impossible to determine, from two types you can only calculate. Experts of the YARD try it. :)

31.08.2016 21:50, Irina Nikulina

I agree, of course, that the issue is not closed. I fully admit that I could have made a mistake in the assumption (I also had a lot of doubts), but it is better to express it for discussion, since it has appeared)

31.08.2016 18:09, Yuri Semejkin

The question remained open. The expected definition is questionable. Base; If viewed here http://www.jpmoth.org/Notodontidae/Micromelalopha_troglodyta.html the coloring is completely different. You can go through and see Irina's link."The samples on it are generally reddish. Now let's look at the 2 samples presented. Yes, they are not so hot, but having color remnants of the original color still allow us to say that the original color is closer to the color of silkworms and not only, but in no way to the images presented on the 2 links.

31.08.2016 16:44, Evgeny Komarov

So it seemed to me that this is not Lymantriinae, but I didn't dare.

31.08.2016 16:16, Irina Nikulina

A butterfly, unfortunately. very shabby. and yet I dare to make one bold assumption) And it can't be one of the three seaside crested babies from the genus Micromelalopha? Yura said. that it's very small. The remnants of bandages at the edge of the wing in shape seem to me similar to Micromelalopha troglodyta, it has a wingspan of 24-26 mm, and according to data from jpmoth, even less - 15-20 mm. http://bioinfo.lowtem.hokudai.ac.jp/db/modules/zukan/index.php?action=node&node_id=355 And all 29 species of seaside Lymantriinae still looked just in case, does not lie down.

31.08.2016 15:17, Yuri Semejkin

So I don't have any other options yet. Let's wait, maybe there will be opinions.

31.08.2016 14:51, Evgeny Komarov

Yes, I have no options, just all the pictures (including yours, output - https://insecta.pro/gallery/41695) and my ex. males in the collection have nothing in common, even taking into account the obliteration of this, do not have. That's all I'm talking about.

31.08.2016 14:31, Yuri Semejkin

Evgeny, I don't insist. The 2nd image shows the remains of pinkish scales. There are not so many butterflies with a pinkish color, but the moth and moth are eliminated.It remains, and what remains ? Offer your options.

31.08.2016 13:44, Evgeny Komarov

Yuri, the males of mathura aurora do not have a clearly defined light marginal border on the front wings, as in your specimen, and so on ...

31.08.2016 13:10, Yuri Semejkin

Leaning towards the variant Lymantria mathura aurora Butler, 1877 ?