Photo #28746: Lepidoptera sp.

28.05.2014 19:29, Shamil Murtazin

Alexander read, thank you. Temko do with the results of "experimental."
Since the main task - the definition of a particular object, you first will train on other materials that anymore.

28.05.2014 18:24, Alexandr Zhakov

I wrote in PM :)

28.05.2014 15:41, Shamil Murtazin

Violence, dried. Torn right rear wing ...

26.04.2014 20:45, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Shamil, and I just started this book in the distant 1970s.
Until now I have it stored tattered read out "to the holes" as a memory. Beach :)
A good book, literate, and many started with her ....
Therefore everything and I propose to start. Both the many recommendations from her remember for a lifetime and still they should :)

26.04.2014 20:20, Shamil Murtazin

Basil, yes, of course the book repeatedly downloaded and read. The catch arise from the fact that literature and various debates is, for those who do not understand anything ("beginners"), and between those who have long ("experts"). But like I was in the middle. Answers for beginners - very few answers of experts - many (something I do not understand a).Then while we try and substantive issues have then to ask :)
Peter, hence unlikely to migrate. Especially to your site came from molbiola :)
Offer still attach to the gallery community. For young photographers to attach to lepidopterofotografirovaniyu :)

26.04.2014 16:10, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Yes, no, not really :) migration consultation on this matter can only get there. How to correctly assemble, the prepared, etc. etc. I can give here, but the way of cooking ......, alas (
Question Shamil.Shamil you book Kozlov and Nienburg "Your Collection", which I laid out for you once downloaded?
Although she is old, but there is a lot for a beginner the necessary information that is always relevant :)

26.04.2014 15:42, Peter Khramov

... So I began the migration to molbiolu ...

26.04.2014 14:54, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Only here hardly, if a lot of people know at all, what is "cooking" where photographers in the ground and we have very few left, it is a fact. And once again molbiol entomological forum and better in Russia. He is the first and only. I do not do this, alas. And then, I would be prompted :)

26.04.2014 14:34, Shamil Murtazin

This site is closer to me :)
There is something highly specialized and very much seriously. I'm a gallop across Europe ...

25.04.2014 23:46, Vasiliy Feoktistov

I do not do such things. In fact, I "zhuchist" anymore. Ask this question better in the topic. The more you are registered :) molbiole

25.04.2014 16:56, Shamil Murtazin

Basil can something dissection of the genitalia of this group of flat moles say? ..
It is clear that we must try. But you never know. It may succeed on the first try :)
(optimist mode off.)

25.04.2014 7:34, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Shamil, well then here Wellcome to start: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=154242

24.04.2014 19:19, Shamil Murtazin

Alexander, thanks for the comment. No doubt the complexity of the group, but now everything was clear.
Apparently, it is necessary to study and try to dissect the genitals)

24.04.2014 13:40, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Depressaria radiella / Tentatively identified / Shamil Murtazin → Not identified.

24.04.2014 13:40, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Now came the answer from Vlad Proklova of the butterfly, "a group of muddy and to establish the truth you only need to cook." Based on this I apologize again for the fact that haste yesterday and sent back to undefined.

24.04.2014 1:01, Alexandr Zhakov

Shamil, very muddy group of photos with her hard work, butterflies are very varied in color, it is not visible on the photo size is not known habitat and forage plant. 17 vskidku region has a number of species is very similar Depressaria hofmanni, Depressaria ultimella and a number of species that yast you, but I do not know and do not videl.idut from Asia.Therefore, to determine the species of the South Urals CET photographs simply not serious. So I could not stand this photo. Basil looks easier.

23.04.2014 20:19, Shamil Murtazin

Alexander, comment please. Type of genital happens? ..

23.04.2014 20:18, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Let then is inaccurate pobudet :)

23.04.2014 20:17, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Confidently identified → Tentatively identified.

23.04.2014 20:06, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil, then the accuracy of no more than 30%, well already kind of talked and talked about it, where can I bear, so I beg you.

23.04.2014 19:35, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Not identified → Depressaria radiella / Confidently identified / Shamil Murtazin.

23.04.2014 19:35, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Shamil, but not special in the micro (I agree. For me, too, so it: http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Depressaria_Radiella
I bear :)

23.04.2014 7:25, Shamil Murtazin

Depressaria radiella?