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07.09.2006 18:51, vespabellicosus

I also noticed that when the Germanics are worried, they persist in chasing the troublemaker.

10.09.2006 22:44, Охотник за осами

That's how I reoriented the nest

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10.09.2006 23:05, Охотник за осами

photo number 2

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11.09.2006 4:03, Proctos

Just for comparison, a few photos of similar types of wasps.
Now find the differences for the unarmed eye wink.gif

This post was edited by Proctos - 11.09.2006 04: 09

11.09.2006 9:20, vespabellicosus

First, you need to look at the distance of the cheeks from the mandibles - in order to distinguish childbirth. Another sign : the antennae of Vespula are visually longer . than Dolichovespula. D. media workers are larger than other types of workers. The average length of the workers of the middle wasp is 14-16 mm, sometimes more , in Saxonica and vulgaris 12-13 mm. Adulterina doesn't have a working caste. Here in the photo , by the way, is an interesting variation of the color of D. media. In our area, it is different from it. Well, all of the above species differ in their nesting location.

11.09.2006 13:24, Охотник за осами

Belikozus, appreciate my work, these are my photos, I took a photo myself
At the expense of the question, the middle wasp, tobish Dolikovespula, they have two chest stripes that look like an unfinished triangle, and the queens, by the way, have it there, it has a red color inside this triangle, they are completely naked, without hairs, the Saxon has a skull vygledet already, and more elongated, which is due to the fact that they consume carbohydrates only from flowers, but Adulterina, like the Austrian wasp, is a parasite, vulgaris differ from Germanic, by the presence of a spot on the forehead, less aggressive character, smaller size, and they are darker, and of course the nest brown, not gray
Dear moderator, how do I post my video, so that the file video is compressed, on the forum sheet as a link, click and record?

11.09.2006 17:31, vespabellicosus

Our media females also have red stripes on their chests , and the workers ' bellies are significantly blacker than yours.

12.09.2006 18:42, Охотник за осами

tell us a case where you think that you have got the most powerful nest to date, tell us how you got it, how many stings, i.e. the largest nest of the Vespula genus that you have ever found, got

12.09.2006 18:47, Охотник за осами

an interesting fact is that all wasps of the vespula genus have a fragile nest,while dolikovespula, on the contrary, has a strong

14.09.2006 11:13, vespabellicosus

Well, I don't think our nests are any more powerful than yours. At vulgaris, I once discovered a powerful colony, in October ( but even then there were a lot of wasps). 11 tiers with a diameter of about 30 cm - I didn't measure it exactly. At Germanica, the largest one had 9 tiers , the diameter was not measured. What are the biggest ones for you?

14.09.2006 11:19, vespabellicosus

And here is another vulgaris nest-already from my collection. There are 9 tiers ( one is missing ).

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14.09.2006 13:58, Охотник за осами

great photo, we had the biggest one in 12 tiers, the diameter of each honeycomb is 40 cm,and this is your work, or did you download it?

14.09.2006 14:00, Охотник за осами

this nest is missing 2 tiers, because the nest must have the form shara

14.09.2006 14:03, Охотник за осами

I'm currently doing a little scientific work, feeding the larvae of vespula vulgaris wasps with parchment, so far everything is going normal

14.09.2006 18:30, vespabellicosus

So I kind of wrote-a photo of the nest from my collection. The smallest named cell is missing.

14.09.2006 18:31, vespabellicosus

Now I have a nymph's nest in the bank , 2 wasps are still only there.

15.09.2006 14:22, Охотник за осами

and what kind of nymph?

15.09.2006 14:57, Tigran Oganesov

Apparently, these guys are: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=113036

16.09.2006 4:59, vespabellicosus

Yes, Bolivar is right , those are the guys.

16.09.2006 18:00, Охотник за осами

by the way polists are not averse to eating nectar

16.09.2006 18:03, Охотник за осами

has anyone raised or kept wasps in captivity,here is the picture on the previous page (mine) - these are captive wasps in a terrarium

18.09.2006 13:53, Охотник за осами

Dear Forum visitors! I have prepared a report on the observation of wasps, the main topics:
Structure, nest activity,
What processes are inside the nest,
Characteristics and comparison of wasps V. Vulgaris & V. Germanica
Nest signaling, some elements of the hornet's nest
Parasites of the nest
Cp.thick population of wasps in Kazakhstan 1 nest per 30-40 meters
Food regime
Techniques for preventing stinging
Differences between German wasp nests and pickled wasp
endurance Wasp
day mode
determine what winter will be like!
and.dr All ask me on this report, I will definitely answer, your Hunter!

19.09.2006 22:32, Охотник за осами

The working cell is three times smaller in diameter than the uterine cell, the location of the cells is justified by the fact that the juveniles through the cocoons just jostling falls on the flat surface of the lower honeycomb, if you turn the cells up, the young wasps will not be able to get out by 89% and will die of starvation, I will tell you more information later and now I am very busy

20.09.2006 22:43, Proctos

If possible, then about the parasites of the nest for more smile.gifinformation

21.09.2006 6:54, vespabellicosus

As for turning the cells over - I always put them cells up. Almost all the wasps got out normally , very few died.

21.09.2006 12:35, Охотник за осами

I don't know but if I put the cells up many do not climb out

21.09.2006 12:43, Охотник за осами

Parasites: I do not know what to call them,but there are paper moth, orange beetle, and flatworm, as well as horsemen.The paper moth does not harm the nest much, but eats the shell, and in autumn, closer to winter, there is an entire nest, the orange beetle, I don't know how it appears in the nest, but usually nests in working cells, its flat larva climbs into the nest, sucks the larvae hemolymph, and steals food from them, has an amazing resemblance to the larva as a wasp grows, it starts eating eggs and small larvae,and at the end of development it finds a cell, releases it, and pupates.The rider quickly penetrates the nest, and lays an egg in the larva, then, like all riders, development proceeds, but pupating, the head of the wasp larva falls off,the cocoon is brown and hard, the cocoon cover is slightly transparent and located obliquely

21.09.2006 15:35, Bad Den

orange beetle

Can I tell you more about it?

21.09.2006 16:57, vespabellicosus

About the orange beetle-this is in the course of Metoecus paradoxus. Here in Chuvashia, it affects the nests of vulgaris. Once I found a nest of 3 floors , almost 80% were affected by them. I can send you his photo later.
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21.09.2006 19:33, Охотник за осами

What else would you like to know, Thank you for the hunt for knowledge!

21.09.2006 20:36, vespabellicosus

Metoecus paradoxus.

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21.09.2006 21:23, Bad Den

About the orange beetle-this is in the course of Metoecus paradoxus. Here in Chuvashia, it affects the nests of vulgaris. Once I found a nest of 3 floors , almost 80% were affected by them. I can send you his photo later.

What other beetles have you encountered in wasp nests?

22.09.2006 5:46, vespabellicosus

I don't remember anyone else from the wingless ones. But there are pests from other detachments.

22.09.2006 13:36, Охотник за осами

of the coleoptera, only one,but there is also a paper moth and a wasp rider, which I described above

22.09.2006 13:38, Охотник за осами

Great,but really, this particular beetle is a pest!

23.09.2006 8:41, vespabellicosus

And the wasp moth-yes, I had problems with it. I remember that in Tatarstan it very much ate my sylvestris nest, although there were wasps there. What kind of species does it bother you with?

24.09.2006 18:09, Охотник за осами

all types, except polistov

26.09.2006 18:03, Охотник за осами

at the expense of the food regime, wasp larvae by nature feed on meat, but they are also able to feed on pollen, but honey and royal jelly adversely affect them,kills them.The uterus is in the hive, it feeds only on the pharyngeal secretions of larvae, so to speak, "lychee milk" or OACC(Wasp Amino Acid Cocktail), the uterus is not able to feed anything other than this product,naturally the fetal uterus.Workers feed on this very milk and nectar.And the following food chain is built: Worker wasp - > < - larva - > uterus.It turns out that the uterus lays eggs, larvae from them, they are fed by workers, larvae of the uterus and workers, laying eggs, it provides itself with food,and energy for subsequent egg laying.
Wasps have another feature,they have wasps of the second generation,they are twice as large as the wasps of the first, they always appear on the eve of the mating season. Their function is to feed wasp larvae-future queens and drones. They may have some sexual pheromones that when they appear, workers forget about the uterus, its pheromones do not work,the eggs laid by it are eaten by these large workers,these workers are highly active,and produce more food, and protect the nest from tgo,so that the sexual individuals do not die.The signal for their appearance is the appearance of drones from the working cells,but these drones are useless,they are too small for soldering,the appearance of males means that the sperm supply is coming to an end,and you need to quickly remove the queens.It is the second-generation workers who build large cells, three times larger than the cells of the first-generation workers(the diameter of the cells of the second-generation os workers is twice the diameter of the first-generation workers, usually there are no more than three or four honeycombs for second-generation workers,and the queen cells, like third-generation workers, are really young in the tropics, for example uterus not finding a sexual partner becomes a large-sized working wasp, in the nest, not separated any wasp queens do not have enmity to each other, but separated imyut)they quickly and energetically feed larvae and build up drone and uterine combs, the diameter of the drone cell is 2.5 times larger than the working one.
wasps also have their own language,unlike bees, it is not based on movement, but on sound. Low fluttering wings over the pig, means "get out of here", these vzamkhi last 1 second, this is just an example, but there are a lot of sounds, it's difficult to distinguish everything, for example, a low-frequency hum means-alarm!

26.09.2006 19:51, Охотник за осами

Wasp nests are annual only because there is winter, if we had the tropics, they would kill the old queen at the end of the season,like bees, and a new one would take its place, and since there is more than one queen at the end of the season, the wasps would multiply in addition by swarming,but we have due to the fact that there is winter, the uterus is one, they only move according to the swarming principle,the nest temperature is maintained at a constant +35 C, the wasps in any case grow the shell to maintain the temperature,so it is multi-layered to increase the heat capacity of the covering material of the nest shell.When the fifth honeycomb(floor) is built,the first one is gnawed out and puddled with basal layer,to keep the entire nest from weight loads, with each new fifth one, the first one is gnawed out and filled with columns, the structure of the nest is as follows, the honeycomb(floor) is supported on columns, the underlying honeycomb serves as a floor for wasps in the interstice (street)the floor consists of spherical bulges - these are the bottoms of the cells of the lower honeycomb, they are a landmark in the complete darkness of the nest, for wasps working in it, since they coincide with the openings of the upper honeycombs.The maximum number of combs can be up to 20,and the length is up to a meter(theoretically),but in fact in temperate climates it is no more than 12 and the length is no more than half a meter. although in the tropics this theoretical pattern of extreme size is observed, in Australia, for example, they find nests the size of a microwave oven!Nests can be either brown or gray, gray nests are always stronger than brown ones,the appearance of the nest resembles a doodle or burka from afar.The fact is that gray nests are made of fibers,and brown ones are made of glued sawdust,they even have a granular structure,why are fiber nests gray?Because when biting off, the wasp soaks saliva containing enzymes and solvents that facilitate the work of tearing off the upper layers of wood,and during chemical reactions it softens and changes color,first yellow with shades,and then gray when drying.Yellow nests are built on a different principle,they look for rotten wood,scrape, and with the help of saliva peck into a lump, and then build.

26.09.2006 20:10, Охотник за осами

Wasps vulgaris and germanica, in behavior, differ.I've been watching these two species all summer.When the nest is disturbed, vulgaris only swarm and attack in single groups, like bees, aggressiveness relative to bees is moderate, even when breeding at home, I could view the honeycombs without a grid, and operate with the nest, the period of panic, anxiety lasts from 15 to 20 minutes.As for germanics, they are very vicious,when their nests are disturbed, they stick to the offender, and sting five or three in each place, their panic period lasts from 40 minutes to an hour.It is interesting that they protect the nest in "waves"(echelons).One concussion(strong)one echelon, killed everyone, once again shook the second, despite the fact that at the exit of the first,the second is waiting in line,this is in order to fight more effectively with opponents,and leave more wasps in the nest,it is designed so that the first waves scare off the offenders,each "wave" corresponds to the cell.The fetal uterus is indifferent to the disturbance of rest, they only hide, among their daughters, they will give the last to protect her.Drones also provide a background for defense,they swarm, adding only the volume of the swarm that came out to defend.The research distance of Germanics is 20-30m,and Vulgaris 10-20m.Germanics are very persistent wasps in defense,but although vulgaris are not so much weaker in appearance, unlike bees, wasps look for vulnerable places when attacking, these are eruption holes,the fact is that when hunting insects, these depressions have the softest cover and nerves, here they are easier to paralyze, and bees are not it is necessary, and this skill has been lost, since bees are vegetarian wasps.Vulgaris always eat fresh food, and sweet, sometimes they feed the larvae with products of flower origin, so vulgaris should be encouraged, they clean the garden from harmful insects better than germanica, and germanica, these are orderlies, they are scavengers, that says it all!

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