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AnnaFo, 12.12.2017 10:17

Good afternoon.

The situation is as follows. A bug was found in the coffee package during the bulkhead inspection. It is possible that it was planted there, or it was there in the first place.
However, this is very doubtful for several reasons:
- the roasting factory regularly performs disinfection (this is Europe).
- the factory staff said that such a beetle has never been seen in Italy.
- it is strange that the beetle retained its integrity during roasting (more than 200 degrees), storage in silos, where the mass of coffee is several tons,and then packing.

Is it possible to tell from the photo what kind of beetle it is? At least from what area. The bulkhead took place in Krasnodar.

Photo attached (the beetle is on the right).

Thank you in advance for your comments.

Pictures:
picture: image_11_12_17_10_04_2.jpeg
image_11_12_17_10_04_2.jpeg — (286.57к)

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12.12.2017 11:54, Victor Titov

Good afternoon.

The situation is as follows. A bug was found in the coffee package during the bulkhead inspection. It is possible that it was planted there, or it was there in the first place.
However, this is very doubtful for several reasons:
- the roasting factory regularly performs disinfection (this is Europe).
- the factory staff said that such a beetle has never been seen in Italy.
- it is strange that the beetle retained its integrity during roasting (more than 200 degrees), storage in silos, where the mass of coffee is several tons,and then packing.

Is it possible to tell from the photo what kind of beetle it is? At least from what area. The bulkhead took place in Krasnodar.

Photo attached (the beetle is on the right).

Thank you in advance for your comments.

Well, this is not a beetle, but a part of a beetle smile.gif: it just did not retain its integrity - without a head, pronotum (prothorax) and most of the limbs. To determine this, it is advisable to place a photo with a view not only from below, but also from above.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 12.12.2017 11: 57

12.12.2017 12:15, AnnaFo

Thank you. I'll request a top photo from the searchers. It's just that in the coffee industry, in addition to the temperature, there is also a strong pressure, coffee beans move from one module to another under air pressure, the beetle would be blown to shreds, I think, and not the legs would be torn off. Or can it be so hard?

12.12.2017 13:00, AnnaFo

Here is the top view. There are options, who is it and where does it live?

Pictures:
picture: image_12_12_17_12_58.jpeg
image_12_12_17_12_58.jpeg — (228.38к)

12.12.2017 13:11, Victor Titov

...the beetle would have been blown to shreds, I think, and not the legs would have been torn off. Or can it be so hard?

Isn't it blown away if there's less than 2/3 of it left?

Here is the top view. There are options, who is it and where does it live?

It is a beetle from the family of ground beetles (Carabidae). Further on such a fragment, and even only in the photo-divination, and not determination. Getting into the coffee is purely random.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 12.12.2017 13: 12

12.12.2017 13:14, AnnaFo

Thank you. I'd like to find out exactly where it got into the coffee. But, apparently, such ground beetles can be from Honduras, and from Italy, and from the Krasnodar Territory?

12.12.2017 13:17, Victor Titov

apparently, such ground beetles can be from Honduras, and from Italy, and from the Krasnodar Territory?

yes.gif

12.12.2017 13:24, AnnaFo

Thank you for your comments. I'm out of luck, so we'll investigate further where he might have come from.

12.12.2017 13:34, Victor Titov

..I'm out of luck, okay, we'll investigate further where he might have come from.

Do you need this to file a claim with the supplier (manufacturer)?

12.12.2017 13:42, AnnaFo

Conversely. I want to protect the manufacturer. I run the quality department. Our company has a large client. They are constantly making complaints: they find a huge amount of everything in coffee-stones, metal, now the beetles have gone. We do not receive such complaints from our other clients, including large ones. I've been to a factory in Italy myself, where the production is perfectly clean and new. Of course, there's a green grain warehouse nearby, and the bug could have crawled out of the bags, but that's doubtful. There are huge roasters and silos, he would not have survived there for sure. So I wanted to understand where this beetle comes from. It is a pity that this is such a "frequent" bug.

12.12.2017 14:09, Victor Titov

It is a pity that this is such a "frequent" bug.

In order to more or less accurately judge the "rarity", it is necessary to determine it to the species, but this is impossible for such remains, alas.

12.12.2017 14:11, AnnaFo

Got it, anyway-thanks for your help!

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