Dosang 2011

I plan to be in those parts from May 4 (around Dosanga), it will be possible to cross paths somewhere if you want.

My dosang broke down this year. I will be in a much more interesting place

My dosang broke down this year. I'll be in a much more interesting place

where is interesting?

And a couple more questions about Dosang:
1. Is there a store in Dosang? Do they sell salt and vinegar there?
2. Who has an anti-fog phone? Or can the issue of living there be resolved on the spot?

Which station are you going to get off at, Archeda or Ilovlya?

This post was edited by Seneka - 24.03.2011 21: 51

And a couple more questions about Dosang:
1. Is there a store in Dosang? Do they sell salt and vinegar there?
2. Who has an anti-fog phone? Or can the issue of living there be resolved on the spot?

1. There was no store as such, there was, it seems, a mobile warehouse where bread was sold, etc. It is better to take everything with you.
2. Phone number lost

where is interesting?

in greece ^^

And what is unique about Dosang on butterflies?

Which station are you going to get off at, Archeda or Ilovlya?

And fishing, of course

And what is unique about Dosang on butterflies?

Praephilotes anthracias

well, hawkmoth different with scoops.

Seneka
I think Ilovlya is a better place to get to the sands.

Seneka
I think Ilovlya is a better place to get to the sands.

I'm going to go there on the 29th evening from Moscow.

And what is unique about Dosang on butterflies?

There are callimachus, euphema, interesting pigeons and fatheads.

Seneka
I have not yet 100% determined the date when I will leave. As soon as I arrive from a business trip in mid-April, I will resolve this issue and take tickets.

to wise snake: what kind of plate-whiskered beetles, where and at what time do they get

In my opinion, the most interesting of the plates in Dosang: Aphodius nelsinae, A. dosangi, A. digitalis, Sugrams hauseri, Granulopsammodius transcaspicus, Orubesa athleta, Cyphonotus testaceus. April-May, light and sand.

Aphodius dosangi
Named after Dosang? Endemic?

More Aphodius bimaculatus, Ceratophyus polyceros, Onitis humerosus-these are still a lot of places, but in Dosang they are more common. I am not yet strong on plates, barbels or ground beetles (Carabus, Calosoma, Cicindela) Volgograd Region/I can tell you about the Astrakhan region...

And no one wants to go to Volgograd on May days (1-10)?

Yeah, in honor of Dosang. In fact, it is very close to circumductus, perhaps even just clinal variability, but it is necessary to look at large series. In general, of course, Dosang is an interesting place, and dung beetles and bronzes and crunches, there would also be Cnemisus to catch (in the Volga region it is, but it is very rare, in my opinion it has not yet been collected in Dosang).

Which station are you going to get off at, Archeda or Ilovlya?

I probably have a geographical cretinism, but I can't figure out what Ilovlya and Archeda (both in the Volgograd region) have to do with Dosang (in the Astrakhan region) The distance from any of them to Dosang is very decent and all over the steppe

Here's everything for me:
Bread and salt, appetizers, conversations,
Half a day-heat, half a night-disputes,
Endless yellow expanses
That attract the entomologist...

Dosang. Desert hot land,
The cross of Kazakhstan with Russia,
Steppes-with the desert, happiness-with sadness,
You meet me more often.

Here is a scarab, always mighty,
Pushing a smelly piece of food
And next to it flutters it-
A beautiful yellow swallowtail.

You go out early on the road
And in the evening - in the calluses of the feet,
Sand in sneakers from
dorga And the only thought is to take a sip of water.

But only after emptying the glass
of Stain on the table you spread it out
And can't say anything:
And without wine you are completely drunk.

I probably have a geographical cretinism, but I can't figure out what Ilovlya and Archeda (both in the Volgograd region) have to do with Dosang (in the Astrakhan region) The distance from any of them to Dosang is very decent and all steppe

The May holidays are long, there is a reason, along the way, to spend 2 days exploring these sands, so as not to go there specifically. Or maybe it's not worth it, I don't know, I haven't been there or there, but a mad dog can't go forty versts.

Who was in Dosang, tell us, there is fresh water in the desert? Swamps, lakes, streams? 10 kilometers from Dosang? How's the water going anyway? Where do people usually stop for the night? I'm going straight to the desert, but I have my doubts about the water. I'll take a shovel, filter, and pills, but will they help?

This post was edited by Seneka - 28.03.2011 16: 59

by barbel or ground beetle (Carabus, Calosoma, Cicindela) Volgograd Region/I can tell you about the Astrakhan region...

Looking forward to it...

The May holidays are long, there is a reason, along the way, to spend 2 days exploring these sands, so as not to go there specifically. Or maybe it's not worth it, I don't know, I haven't been there or there, but a mad dog can't go forty versts.

Who was in Dosang, tell us, there is fresh water in the desert? Swamps, lakes, streams? 10 kilometers from Dosang? How's the water going anyway? Where do people usually stop for the night? I'm going straight to the desert, but I have my doubts about the water. I'll take a shovel, filter, and pills, but will they help?

From these stations to Dosang is not 40 versts, but all 400 ... In Dosang I did not catch, but I repeatedly passed through it by car on the way to Astrakhan. The village is located right on the bank of the Akhtuba River (the extreme left arm of the Volga), along the outskirts of the village runs the Volgograd-Astrakhan highway, right behind which there are already sand dunes. From the water to them is a maximum of 700 meters. There is plenty of water in Akhtuba, and there are wells and irrigation channels in the steppe and desert, but according to my observations, all this has long been abandoned and dried up.

From these stations to Dosang is not 40 versts, but all 400...

and to the railway station very close.

Yes, by the way, there are wells,, arranged specifically for watering grazed skota

Yes, by the way, there are wells, which are designed specifically for watering grazed livestock

Great. In May, the water level should be high. Perhaps, on satellite images, light spots with radially converging paths to them, and there are wells.

This post was edited by Seneka - 29.03.2011 23: 40

and to the railway station very close. thanks for the information, gives hope. I would like directions, landmarks, coordinates, screenshots with points. In Google, this square has a low resolution, no details are visible, and the quality of water bodies is unknown, except for white dried-up salt lakes.

Fear God! Dosang station is located on the railway line connecting Volgograd with Astrakhan and passing along Akhtuba and the highway of the same direction. It is about 300 km from Volgograd to the south. And the Ilovlya and Archeda stations are located about 100 km from Volgograd approximately to the Northwest, slightly away from the M6 Kaspiy highway (Moscow-Volgograd-Astrakhan). And there was never any sand in the vicinity of the mentioned stations, only chalk mountains, and even then not close by. Here is a link to the route of the Moscow-Astrakhan train. See where Frolovo (Archeda) and Ashuluk (don't stop at Dosang) are located. Pay attention to the travel time...
http://railroad.mobiticket.ru/traintt.php?...show_costs=true

White spots on Google images - these are the most coveted sands for you, They go right along the highway there. And do not expect to see a classic desert there, in Dosang it is rather a deserted steppe with sand outcrops.

Great. In May, the water level should be high. Perhaps, on satellite images, light spots with radially converging paths to them, and there are wells.

At the very beginning of May, the discharge of water from the Volga hydroelectric dam begins. Therefore, there is really a lot of water in Akhtuba. This does not mean that there is water in the irrigation channels, where it is pumped by pumps. As for the wells, they were built for watering livestock and are often salty or brackish. Again, animal husbandry there has long been covered and it is unlikely that anyone is looking after the wells. Find the General Staff-kilometer square L-38-48 and look for wells there, I didn't find anything but salt marshes and small salt puddles. If you want to walk closer to Kazakhstan, then see, at the same time, the square L-39-37

Oh, Mikhail, I feel that you are already seriously working out our May route! But we don't need the desert, even if we pack water in our cars.

Fear God! Dosang station is located on the railway line connecting Volgograd with Astrakhan and passing along Akhtuba and the highway of the same direction. It is about 300 km from Volgograd to the south. And the Ilovlya and Archeda stations are located about 100 km from Volgograd approximately to the Northwest, slightly away from the M6 Kaspiy highway (Moscow-Volgograd-Astrakhan). And there was never any sand in the vicinity of the mentioned stations, only chalk mountains, and even then not close by. Here is a link to the route of the Moscow-Astrakhan train. See where Frolovo (Archeda) and Ashuluk (don't stop at Dosang) are located. Pay attention to the travel time...
http://railroad.mobiticket.ru/traintt.php?...show_costs=true

White spots on Google images - these are the most coveted sands for you, They go right along the highway there. And do not expect to see a classic desert there, in Dosang it is rather a deserted steppe with sand outcrops.

Hmm. And judging by the maps, there are still "Archedinsko-Donskiye Peski" and "Archedinskie Peski". Some sources claim that this is the most serernaya" real " desert. Archedinsky Sands can be reached by public transport in Archeda (), and Archedinsko-Donskiye (sands or chalk mountains?) walk a couple of kilometers from Ilovli.

Are the chalk mountains or sands west of Ilovli of interest? There are no sands there?

= ) Thank you for the link. My route is planned taking into account the train schedule, stops at stations, departure and arrival times, minimum travel time, ticket availability, by the minute, no less detailed, with alternative means of transportation at some transfer points, mainly trains and buses. Pichem, if desired, you can visit Archeda, Ilovlya, Dosang. When drawing up the route, I proceeded from strict restrictions that departure must be in the evening of May 29(from work), no later than 21:00, and arrival in the morning of May 10 no later than 11 am(to work).

By wells and reservoirs...
Here I found a good source of maps, a lot of things are indicated there
http://www.rspin.com/maps/2006/berkeley.html

Dosang - L38-048, then view adjacent maps

This post was edited by Seneka - 30.03.2011 10: 03

Oh, Mikhail, I feel that you are already seriously working out our May route! But we don't need the desert, even if we pack water in our cars.

Where are you going?" Does Dosang seem to attract you to the desert, or is there something more interesting there? Very interested.

Hmm. And judging by the maps, there are still "Archedinsko-Donskiye Peski" and "Archedinskie Peski". Some sources claim that this is the most serernaya" real " desert. Archedinsky Sands can be reached by public transport in Archeda (), and Archedinsko-Donskiye (sands or chalk mountains?) walk a couple of kilometers from Ilovli.

Are the chalk mountains or sands west of Ilovli of interest? There are no sands there?

= ) Thank you for the link. My route is planned taking into account the train schedule, stops at stations, departure and arrival times, minimum travel time, ticket availability, by the minute, no less detailed, with alternative means of transportation at some transfer points, mainly trains and buses. Pichem, if desired, you can visit Archeda, Ilovlya, Dosang. When drawing up the route, I proceeded from strict restrictions that departure must be in the evening of May 29(from work), no later than 21:00, and arrival in the morning of May 10 no later than 11 am(to work).

By wells and reservoirs...
Here I found a good source of maps, a lot of things are indicated there
http://www.rspin.com/maps/2006/berkeley.html

Dosang - L38-048, then view adjacent maps

When planning your route, keep in mind that there are few trains to Astrakhan, but those who want to get to those places on the long May holidays are in bulk. Spring, water discharge = spawning run of fish, including roach. Damn, there are traffic jams on the highways at this time And here you are, with nets and cups... Stock up on tickets.

Oh, Mikhail, I feel that you are already seriously working out our May route! But we don't need the desert, even if we pack water in our cars.

What is there to work out? I spent 10 years fishing in those parts

As for the wells, they were built for watering livestock and are often salty or brackish. Again, animal husbandry there has long been covered and it is unlikely that anyone is looking after the wells.

Nenene, animal husbandry there is more or less warm, not on an industrial scale, of course, but the flocks run quite large. For the wells that are used (at least for this one) They're looking after you. This is a picture from 2009, and last year there was a pump instead of a crane. So the chance of water is another thing, that I would not risk drinking it without treatment.

.. So the chance of water is another thing, that I would not risk drinking it without treatment.

Well, you can cook on it - it's been tested. Yes, and you can save on salt...

Where are you going?" Does Dosang seem to attract you to the desert, or is there something more interesting there? Very interesting.

We haven't decided yet whether to go or not, and so we are not beetles (even though the Kazakh ordered us 50 mattresses to collect beetles for him), we are going in the hope of catching the peacock-eyed spini, everything else that will fly, and most importantly have a good rest. Well, go fishing at the same time.