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ReAlex, 14.09.2011 9:36

Hi, the situation is as follows:
I was brought several Death's Head pupae, one of them seems to have been damaged during transportation and does not move, some brown liquid dripped out of it and it is slightly darker than the other pupae, I suspect that it is no longer a tenant. the question is: is there a technique that will flatten its wings by removing it from the shell?

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14.09.2011 9:47, Alexandr Zhakov

No.
Even a fully formed butterfly, if it has not emerged from the pupa, remains with its wings unfurled.
And you may not have a butterfly in your chrysalis smile.gifyet

14.09.2011 10:03, dimont

The pupa, in which the butterfly is even almost completely formed, has no fluid around it. In your case, if there is liquid, there are no wings as such (that is, there is, but without the picture and all the contents). The only way out is to wait (almost 0% of the effectiveness) and then, if nothing is exactly received, dry it for memory without letting it get moldy and pay off.

14.09.2011 10:20, ReAlex

The wing pattern is slightly visible through the shell.
by the way, the rest of the pupae do not need to be placed in any specific conditions??? I have them just lying on cotton wool in a three-liter bottle.

14.09.2011 10:47, Alexandr Zhakov

 
by the way, the rest of the pupae do not need to be placed in any specific conditions??? I have them just lying on cotton wool in a three-liter bottle.

There may be problems with spreading the wings, especially if there are several pupae in one jar. Under similar circumstances: "they just lie on cotton wool in a three-liter bottle", the butterfly could not spread its wings. The next time, a branch was placed in the jar on which the butterfly could climb, so that the wings would spread. The butterfly rose and squeezed through two layers of gauze (I still wonder how) and was found on the curtain with its wings spread well.
Good luck with your breeding. smile.gif

14.09.2011 12:28, ReAlex

Thank you, pasted on the wall of the jar cheesecloth on which he can climb. I'll post a photo as soon as I get it out)

20.09.2011 11:05, ReAlex

The pupa turned out to be alive, hatched, but did not fully spread its wings and died. what could be the reason?

20.09.2011 13:20, okoem

The butterfly rose and squeezed through two layers of gauze (I still wonder how)

I watched as E. laudeti tried to tear the synthetic mesh. If there was gauze , it would fit. What is gauze to them, when some break through a strong cocoon and a layer of soil. smile.gif

Thank you, pasted on the wall of the jar cheesecloth on which he can climb. I'll post a photo as soon as I get it out)

I wouldn't recommend banks, it's not the best option. It is better to use cardboard boxes. And, if you want the maximum guarantee of a good spread, put each pupa in a separate cage.

The pupa turned out to be alive, hatched, but did not fully spread its wings and died. what could be the reason?

Answer:
one of them, it seems, was damaged during transportation and does not move, some liquid dripped from it

By the way, the forum already has a topic about breeding butterflies. And about the spread of insects, too, is.
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22.09.2011 8:47, ReAlex


by the way, from the same pupae yesterday, another butterfly hatched (I'll post a photo if possible), which had everything absolutely normal, spread its wings, everything is as it should be. and what exactly is better than a cardboard carob, the more it is saturated with moisture? what if you use a large aquarium?

22.09.2011 12:45, okoem

and what exactly is better than a cardboard karobka,

The box has a wide top, and the jar is narrow. Thus, the ventilation is better and the butterflies have room to climb/sit down. In addition, the jar should be covered with a cloth. Easy access to the pupae, and the jar has a narrow throat.
The aquarium should be covered with a cloth, but the box is not.

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