Photo #16403: Diarsia rubi

27.10.2014 11:24, Irina Nikulina

Well, thank you for the good advice, Peter! How had not guessed, because very friendly terms with the English)) .. Load - and a very different result, much clearer)

27.10.2014 11:06, Peter Khramov

Regarding Google transleyta - does not need to be translated from German into Russian and from German into English, then the result will be much more adequate.

26.10.2014 22:50, Alexandr Zhakov

Many types of genital well different other indicators, host plants, habitats, summer time, dimensions, and many others, are often outwardly very similar, but have a highly variable appearance, which is part of individuals of different species crosses. Sergei was not quite right. :)

26.10.2014 21:58, Irina Nikulina

Thank you all for a return to the topic! Sash, even when I asked the question in Google lepiforuma to load text, funny translation turned out), I confess, I am not fully comprehended then, today repeated in several translators - and like the clarity came. I think that the statement of Sergei, because I asked a question here (from 8.04), not quite correct.

26.10.2014 21:26, Basil Sergienko

I think it is not necessary to put in inaccurate copies. Ponomarev and Nikulina, florida at this time does not have to fly (at least occasional shabby)

26.10.2014 19:03, Vasiliy Feoktistov

We must all rubi and put in florida inaccurate. Authors of definitions, I think will not be offended :) This is my opinion, of course ....In any case, from "personal piggy bank," while in the eighth flight of the region, for all five species:
Diarsia brunnea: June - August
Diarsia dahlii: July - September
Diarsia florida: June - July
Diarsia mendica: June - August
Diarsia rubi: May - September most "long-playing" of all: flies throughout the season :)
Then by the time the flight of hard to judge. In a region from which the specimens., at least :)
Date is 2007-06-24 Pardon me, confused at the beginning and wrote 5): In June we fly four of five.

26.10.2014 18:51, Alexandr Zhakov

Irina, on the text of lepiforuma in Google translator, translate it, really it's kind genetalnye species, there are indications as to distinguish between the summer and these different types.

26.10.2014 18:46, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Not identified → Diarsia rubi / Tentatively identified / Vasiliy Feoktistov.

26.10.2014 18:21, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Irina, now I reviewed more thoroughly all 5 species is given for the 8th Region (not lepiforume) and bowed to the fact that it is the closest in appearance to theDiarsia rubi: shorter confusion. Here, too, only apparently put an end to the genitals, both with and Amphipoea. And in my opinion they should not be in the exact place.It is necessary to remove all inaccurate or vague. If something can not see, I want to ask other members to join the discus and clarify.

07.10.2014 20:51, Irina Nikulina

Basil, my question was not why this photos without definition, and not about the authorship of the two definitions, and why all the other photos in the two types are defined in exactly?

07.10.2014 20:38, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Closer to the habit of florida, but even inaccurate to carry not undertake. His would-set material like? A. oculea? notorious (where there is a possibility to cook). And these strangers to me, and the more trust to Sergei (about genitalia).
Fill. Thanks for the reminder, Irina. Moved the definition.Idyu, I have the honor to know personally and in his definition I have no doubts.

07.10.2014 20:27, Irina Nikulina

I read the comments here and there was a question - why then all the photos on the website andDiarsia rubiandDiarsia floridastand in precisely defined? Including 2 pictures A. Ponomarev with the definition of AI Ustintseva.If everything is so hopeless, and the external differences between the two species is not present, then perhaps it would be logical to send all the photos in imprecisely defined? Or is it that they are? There seems noticeable differences http://www.lepiforum.de/2_forum.pl?md=read;id=36141, but unfortunately, I do not know German, and there are a lot of discussions lepiforume these species.

08.04.2014 19:38, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Diarsia brunnea / Confidently identified / Vitaly Gumenuk → Not identified.

08.04.2014 19:38, Vasiliy Feoktistov

According to the genitals, so the genitals (photo in nature this can not be a self-) ......
"Zeroed" .... sadly :(.
Collect collection, gentlemen :)

08.04.2014 18:59, Sergei Kotov

It has been almost two weeks, I see no change. I am writing again. It is notDiarsia brunnea. It's eitherDiarsia rubi, orDiarsia florida(types rubi florida and do not differ in appearance only through the study of drugs genitalia). BecauseDiarsia brunneaphoto should be removed, at least in undefined. However, what I've been writing you? Do you want to err - err on.

19.03.2014 23:29, Sergei Kotov

It is not brunnea. More like a butterfly from the group rubi / florida.