Photo #41952: Oncocera semirubella

30.07.2015 15:22, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Copyrights are called (photo belongs to the author) :)
Delete, really: is far from gone.

30.07.2015 14:55, Peter Khramov

What are the rights of the owner photos ... I do not know. I have not heard ...; -))
And on the topic - OK, a little later transferred.

30.07.2015 14:47, Vasiliy Feoktistov

I support the proposal on the rights of the owner of Alexander photo.
It is necessary to leave the last post from Alexandra 29.07.2015 15:19 and the rest get out anywhere.
TE Requires move or delete everything after it became clear that the photo does not melanistic.

30.07.2015 13:39, Alexandr Zhakov

Peter suffered all this in the "smoking room".

30.07.2015 10:35, Leon Ortlieb

Peter is just the theory of evolution - is faith.
About scientific it is not out of the question!
One of the tenets of science states that "Any experiment must be possible to repeat the check."
The theory of evolution is not repeated, and it is not possible to verify. Therefore the theory (or rather some fantasy).

30.07.2015 10:33, Vasiliy Feoktistov

In general: the site bored .... Butterfly throw what? Last night to catch :)

30.07.2015 10:28, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander, in our part of this system.
Foundations, and it all starts with the basics as it is known (the scanner is not working, so we had to reshoot, sorry for the quality).

30.07.2015 10:27, Fedor Ovechkin

And characteristically, new species are often described in those taxa that are popular with collectors (in the broad sense). Communication with commerce on the face, and the theory of evolution - alas!

30.07.2015 10:26, Peter Khramov

If you really are interested in "the history of the emergence of the theory ...", it makes sense to get acquainted with different sources. Fortunately we wrote on this subject, not only historians and other prazdnointeresuyuschiesya, but the characters themselves, and living witnesses.
As for the theory itself, let us not forget that this is the theory.And as for its adequacy - it is like a democracy. The thing is, of course, not perfect, but for the time being Lucci did not come up.
I hope to pripleteniya issue of faith in this discussion we shall not reach.

30.07.2015 10:13, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil, what this office. science.? Everything is relative.

30.07.2015 10:08, Leon Ortlieb

Basil is very interesting history of the origin of the theory of evolution. Seen the movie ..

English Field biologist Alfred Russel Wallace on the instructions of the British Crown was 4 years on the islands of the Malay Archipelago. He studied the flora and fauna.For example, he would shoot any animal, remove the skin and sends it to England, he describes his appearance and newfound fame is as a scientist, and the animal skins are sold at auctions. Museums of the world compete to see who will receive this newly discovered species of animal in your collection and do not pay small money ..With this money, Wallace can finance his expedition.

But Wallace was ill with malaria and raves. Inflammation of the brain sees the vision. He was a scientist and when ill, and he took a pencil in hand and the delirium that he saw, wrote the paper. Disable. When he came to, he continued to write what he saw in his delirium ..

You may ask why I'm telling you something?
Hmm ...So there is an hour of origin of the theory of evolution ...

Having recovered, he wrote four letters to his friend Darwin (Darwin was ordained a priest of the Anglican Church). Wallace describes his vision of the origin of species. (the nonsense)


Darwin steals the crazy idea of ​​Wallace, gives it as his own, develops and becomes famous.Perhaps, you should know that Wallace himself was also a staunch advocate of spiritualism ..

Not only is this a crazy idea, this priest and this spiritist,
It becomes in fact a religion in some countries professing atheism penetrated all strata of society of all nations. This crazy idea called itself scientific. Do not conceivable! Is not it?

30.07.2015 9:59, Fedor Ovechkin

As for the taxonomy, especially at the level of species, genera, in my opinion, works recognized authoritative opinions of individual authors. Communication with the theory of evolution is not captured.

30.07.2015 9:37, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Nevertheless, in the office. Science works this is as far as I know :)

30.07.2015 9:34, Fedor Ovechkin

Not at all, not the whole world.

30.07.2015 9:30, Vasiliy Feoktistov

With his teachings, I mean :)

30.07.2015 9:08, Fedor Ovechkin

Basil, the world continues to live with ... Darwin?

30.07.2015 3:17, Vasiliy Feoktistov

My special smile this categorical statement of the reduced article: "Butterflies do not sit down during the day on tree trunks, but Kettlewell suggested that they do it, and therefore glued to the trunk of dead butterflies - this is the origin of the famous picture." . ......
Who has not watched the afternoon sitting on the trunks of moths, shovel, etc.?
It happened and tried to disprove Darwin's theory ..... Yet the world continues to live with him.

29.07.2015 21:59, Peter Khramov

Yes lana. Normal such offtopic. And if you suddenly as a result of offtopic we begin to adequately use the word "ecology" (though the site is more or less the profile), and not, as it does the yellow press, then all will be cool.

29.07.2015 20:22, Vasiliy Feoktistov

You can delete all .... kommentaii from the outset.
And I'll go so far posvechu. It is necessary to catch the last melanistic (((

29.07.2015 20:08, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Railway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFndlR3zIds

29.07.2015 20:07, Alexandr Zhakov

What is the relationship, much of the following is written to the photo and mind?
The same will be removed?

29.07.2015 20:03, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Yeah ... And we have produced the world's best glass wool, asbestos plate and so forth. "Joy." This brought us to the Danes to manufacture from himself. The company "Rockwool" called (former association "Mosasbotermosteklo"). Here's another environment "improves" (((Thank God phenol ceased to pour into the river (before pouring waste) .....

29.07.2015 19:51, Peter Khramov

And there is some ... Zoology Paleontology is not bad to astronomy, as well as biology and physics.

29.07.2015 19:45, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Dmitry, but you know what in the Railway ecology))) Your sister's backyard three "great" include Musoroszhigateltny plant №4, Kuczynski landfill (aka Feninskaya dump) and veterinary-sanitary plant "Ecology" (thankfully closed 2- September 2014). Well, in my part of the city no less poison (((

29.07.2015 19:23, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Incidentally, I do not believe in the industrial melanism. but it's a long time to write

29.07.2015 19:12, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Also it is possible that "up in the air" :)))
A good illustration (melanistic on the left): http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/1751
There's really no geography, but somehow sure it Hripan. She approx. 10 km. from my town in a straight line)))

29.07.2015 18:41, Alexandr Zhakov

I just typed on a search engine: http://www.origins.org.ua/page.php?id_story=488
at the end.
I talked about this for a long time, someone from nauchnikov.

29.07.2015 18:27, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander daennye not from Wikipedia, and from books. Something other than Wikipedia, and have and read. And if I remember correctly (have not been there for a long time), even from the Darwin Museum in Moscow, which on the street. Vavilov d. 57 :)))
A solid organization, with more than a century of history: http://www.darwinmuseum.ru/_aboutus/?dir=history&more=century
I join the request of Peter. Interested, too.

29.07.2015 18:12, Peter Khramov

Alexander and give the link to check out about the melanism where myths debunked.

29.07.2015 17:32, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil, industrial melanism, the same myth as the sun turns the head of a sunflower. Wikipedia article saw no need to give a link.
Here are just a few darker instance

29.07.2015 17:21, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander and I live here)))
And melanistic caught among other: http://lepidoptera.ru/gallery/22271
Including the famous "industrial melanism"Biston betulariaalso catching all black (not exhibited copies. Killed in the trash).
Hence the suggestion.

29.07.2015 16:21, Alexandr Zhakov

No need to invent what is not. I mean the butterfly. The city does not know, he was not.

29.07.2015 15:30, Vasiliy Feoktistov

It is likely that this is still melanism, industrial. My city is very dirty environmentally.

29.07.2015 15:19, Alexandr Zhakov

Kind is very variable, and such happen. Really very dark.

29.07.2015 14:52, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Melanism or normally is?