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Overdue. Discussion of the structure of members / moderators / facilitators on the site. A set of new people with new functionality

Community and ForumWebsite news and updatesOverdue. Discussion of the structure of members / moderators / facilitators on the site. A set of new people with new functionality

Peter Khramov, 08.08.2014 14:47

Citizens! I think it's time to close up a coherent structure of users on the site and invite her to take part in new people. For the sake of greater development of the site. The structure is: I can clearly see the following groups of users:

1. Non-registered - can look but can not touch the hands. Like now.
2.At least - can not only watch, but also to load data to the species and other taxa indicating the sources to ship your photos and comments to all and sundry. Too much like now (just another form of the addition of information on the taxa above species level is necessary to implement).
3. The Working Party.Registered users who do not have the time or desire to perform moderator / curator function, but can actively discuss administrative matters as it is better to realize things like that. Iealways have a qualified opinion and are part of the discussions covered the admin and the core debates open to all.
4. The active writers. Engaged in the completion of the blog based on its data and external sources. Look after the articles are written in a blog registered users.
5. The authors of the articles.Actually, everything stated in the title. Only their is virtually none.
6. Technical curators photos - edit photos on the site to the gallery was less technically weak pictures.
7. Hosts taxa - individual groups of taxa (those which dealt with).Monitor the adequacy of the classification and species information in essays and descriptions supraspecific taxa, including decide what pictures to illustrate those or other descriptions in "their" taxon.
8. Formalizatory signs. Formalizes the signs on the basis of the essays in the species (in conjunction with kurtorami taxa).Remember, formalized format allows you to select types of signs on them (for example, to find all types with a length of more than 4 and the wing is less than 5 cm).
9. The curator of the project - author and host of individual projects on the site. This option provides, but there is almost no working examples.
10. Moderators - keep order on the site as a whole.Transfer the photos from the data users and curators to the kinds of help in the work of all other groups.
11. Interpreters. We have Russian and English version. A lot of information for transfer in both directions, and auto / machine translation does not seem to yield.
12. Administrator - watching everything as much as possible involved in everything.Engaged in the technical part (at least until the site has no separate technical group on programming and so on. N.)

It goes, one person can belong to several groups.And by itself, representatives of the different groups actively kicking each other for more activities: -)

I propose here to discuss the draft of the proposed structure of users on the site.In addition, I propose here to raise their hands who wants to participate in the work site at the level of some of the user groups, and not just in zaregalsya, but is not involved. And I suggest popokazyvat finger at those who would you like to see in this or that group.The current list of users with extended rights: Constantine Efetov Alexander Zhakov, Svyatoslav Knyazev, Evgeny Komarov Stanislav Korb, Irina Nikulin, Dmitry Pozhogin Vasily Feoktistov, Petr Khramov . All of these can add new taxa, as well as have access to the service topic. Besides that:
Constantine Efetov - curator of Zygaenidae .Alexander Zhakov - curator of Coleophoridae , as well as the European Tortricoidea , Noctuoidea , Pyraloidea , plus transfer photos to the species.
Svyatoslav Knyazev - curator of Hepialidae , and Noctuoidea , Pyraloidea , Tortricoidea North Asia.
Stanislav Korb - curator of Rhopalocera Palearctic.Irina Nikulin - illustrating species and taxa supraspecific (assigns photos as illustrations and sketches for the species pages with descriptions of other taxa) plus opening / closing debate.
Dmitry Pozhogin - transfer pictures to the species.Vasiliy Feoktistov - transfer pictures to the species, the change of angle and signs copies at the image transfer pictures to a group of images on them the same individuals, the formalization of signs.
Petr Khramov - all right.

Comments

08.08.2014 22:42, Shamil Murtazin

I will begin with a lengthy entry "by itself":
Such questions - rather difficult to discuss and study (just automatically =)
All of these items are directly dependent on how and what will be presented on the site. In a sense, this is another rethinking of the entire contents.Again, based on its modest experience, I note that I am more comfortable initial formulation of the problem, and only then dancing to the organization infrastructure.
However, I do not fully known plans and probably Sci associated with the "ideal" content of the resource.That is why escapes me the idea called "projects", respectively, and n. 9 of the list for me is not absolutely clear ...
Further, specifically on the questions posed:
Claim 3 - who fall into this group? .. formal claim 2 is ever to join the discussion on this resource. However, "closed the admin discussion" that, IMHO, is not enough.
n.4,5 - than these two points differ? .. Ie Claim 4 - is a blog-writers, and claim 5 - authors of popular scientific articles?
p.6,7,9 and 10 - different kinds of moderators, divided by type of liability.
claim 9 - interesting to hear what a "project" ...Plus I want to know in what direction floats resource - whether it's still gallery of photos or a photo-determinant, or something similar to zabugornye websites statistics fishing, etc.

08.08.2014 23:48, Peter Khramov

Shamil on concepts - was just about to close up the topic, your post served as the last straw: -) So, see page http://lepidoptera.ru/community/27814. There's also about "projects".
6,7 and 9 differ from 10, in that they are highly specialized. Iepeople employed, for example, some one takosnom site may be purple (within reason, of course), to many other projects / taxa site. A moderator should still keep some integrity picture state of things on the site in your head and, if necessary, to resolve disputes with professionals.Essno, it's true, when all these points are not half a person: -)
Group 3 get people who do not care, but they do not have time / opportunity to wider functions. Many discussions in the good must begin not on the public, and in a closed group.That's what is needed, and this structure (the group most likely to enroll, you can machine many comrades from Nos. 4 and above).
4 and 5 differ from each other as well as materials from the "Articles" section on the website and in the section "Blog".

09.08.2014 1:16, Peter Khramov

By the way, here is one more explanation about admin / moderators / professionals. For the specialist is very good quality is perfectionism. Suppose he does not notice anything around, but in his area of ​​responsibility he is always clean and tidy. Admin - the complete opposite.He cares about everything, but it is the nature of his problems can not be a perfectionist, he always has to find a compromise between the various judgments and opinions. Including when the only correct answer does not exist. Moderator - between them.The functions at Modera and spices are all from different spheres, but still a vivid example with the addition of taxa:
The task of the administrator or moderator of a high level - make the database of 50,000 species, catching at the same time a maximum of synonyms, generic combinations and other crossings, as well as the adequacy of the classification.Due to the large amounts of data in this paper can be tolerated, for example, 200, mistakes.
Modders task - to find 170 of obvious errors, which, however, were not quite apparent to the administrator. As well as adding new taxa, but not thousands, at most tens.
The task of the expert - that in "his" taxon has not been a single mistake.And add your own or dopinat admin / modders have been added to all new taxa that are included in its area of ​​responsibility.
I think something like this.

09.08.2014 20:03, Shamil Murtazin

excellent. a tree is currently somewhere Draw or lose.

09.08.2014 20:13, Peter Khramov

How to arrive at the final structure and draw a. Right now, look what the people had to say.

09.08.2014 21:41, Alexandr Zhakov

in the third week, another week to chat and take part in discussions with the phone difficult to write much, and companies are no longer in sight :)))

19.08.2014 10:57, Evgeny Komarov

Peter! Sprinkle ashes because one of the two previously worked actively, and I think there :(. So much so loaded at work, which is something more serious than the view points of interest and sharing pictures are no forces - old, probably :). And your proposal quite rationally - the whole question of who will subscribe to the listed items.I would take 6 group, but I'm afraid that as a man, a lot of filming, find myself overly picky about the quality of the photo.

19.08.2014 18:50, Peter Khramov

Yeah, that's right, it's about you, too: -) With work understand - too often buries recently. About insistence to fotam - so there are all easy if Fota technically bad, you need to make it possible for something more decent (not spending time with the car), and all.And it is not an art gallery, often foty interesting species / geography, etc. They made not great, but nevertheless are valuable.

20.08.2014 11:24, Evgeny Komarov

Well, that may result in the divine form with the editors, I will. And that is not even very good. good photo species absent from the site, but it is suitable for identification or complementary distribution is useful - do not argue! Therefore, I subscribe to it, let alone the rest of the best of their skill level :)

20.08.2014 12:51, Peter Khramov

Well, do you interface for editing and unsubscribe in the mail.

20.08.2014 15:30, Alex Dumchus

By the way, Peter. I could edit your photos from those that are not perefotal.

20.08.2014 16:31, Alex Dumchus

Peter. That is nonsense turns. Just uploaded new photos Taenaris schoenbergi. Then I went to the BOS, went to the last photo, dialed the number of the photo that is replaced, clicked - resulting in more pictures Remove, and had to retire early. Did you say something beguiled. And by the way, for some reason still have not removed the photo, which I wrote to replace?

20.08.2014 17:48, Peter Khramov

Discussion of the structure of members / moderators / facilitators on the site. A set of new people with new functionality.

25.08.2014 11:51, Dmitriy Pozhogin

On weekdays, there is neither time nor effort, because a new job. Output in the field. Winter pridet- be free weekend (late October-early March). From 7 March to 1 April in the fields in the tropics. If there are specific zadaniya- write.

25.08.2014 12:34, Shamil Murtazin

List of tasks - an interesting thing, by the way :) right away tempted to fasten functional with glasses and achivki :)))

27.08.2014 18:27, Peter Khramov

Dmitry, Thanks for the offer, truncated or write callback. Regarding functional - this is for highly formalized community members with the sea or when points can be into something to translate.

27.08.2014 20:16, Shamil Murtazin

With glasses joke. The list itself - something sensible. At least for the participants' understanding of what we are fighting (to which we go).

08.09.2014 23:52, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter this question. We've added subspecies anyone? If not, you can take the matter to himself. Look, the point is dead on, or close to it (

10.09.2014 17:19, Shamil Murtazin

Basil, here on "modeling" has been mention of the abolition of the use of taxonomic subspecies. Maybe something I do not understand. Probably, the relevance of this feature in the future will be significant.

Peter! Ready to blog "news from the fields in the lap of removing altsinoev in adverse environments, temporary stay of places."I am waiting until the weekend, after a start to flood in some posts on the forum.

10.09.2014 17:24, Peter Khramov

Shamil, it was not about the subspecies, but about form / race. Blog - make do, only I think, is it worth it now so separated from the other sections. What, for example, will be different from the Category Blog section Kurilka about butterflies?

10.09.2014 17:30, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Shamil subspecies has not been canceled and will not revoke: because it is a subspecies :)))). By the way, where the wind blew? Ssylochku-to :)
It was in one place and forms of the aberrations: http://lepidoptera.ru/community/28816 and it started me :)

10.09.2014 18:16, Shamil Murtazin

Peter was planned :) That's all. It should be a flood? ..))
Basil, I speak do not remember exactly. Do not hit much =)

11.09.2014 2:33, Peter Khramov

Shamil worth. Anyway, the start -)

11.09.2014 23:54, Peter Khramov

Start slowly distribution of elephants. Irina Nikulina gets right to the appointment of illustrations for kinds of essays, as well as to the opening / closing of the debate (fotam room comments to the appropriate section of the Community).

12.09.2014 0:12, Irina Nikulina

Peter knew about the first, thank you) I will learn a couple of days. But I try to remember about the second agreed ... ..? It is necessary to clarify what is meant.

12.09.2014 0:17, Peter Khramov

He replied in a letter.

12.09.2014 0:24, Irina Nikulina

Understood) And on the first point - did not have to learn, everything is extremely simple, Chandata bella was not illustrated, on him and tried

12.09.2014 0:31, Alexandr Zhakov

Excellent work out. :))

24.10.2014 23:57, Peter Khramov

By agreement with Vasiliy Feoktistov, temporarily takes away the opportunity to transfer to the kinds of photons. By agreement with Dmitry Pozhogin to him constantly comes to the possibility of carrying ph species.

07.01.2015 16:59, Peter Khramov

Updated list with the right. Now atkualnaya version of the list will be published / updated in the first post topic.

07.01.2015 22:25, Peter Khramov

The list has been updated again.

12.01.2015 21:32, Peter Khramov

Another update. Zygaenidae is now in charge of Constantine Efetov.

09.03.2015 13:19, Alexandr Zhakov

Alexander Dumchusu. Alexander reply to comment Actias isabellae .
Omit: And by the way, you are also allowed to moderation. :)))
The maintenance of the site is now involved 9 people (listed above :)))) Who is more, some less, who started, who are going. :))
1.Transfer the image from the page to the page of one kind of another species (species affiliation photo if overridden, can only two people: Irina Nikulin and Peter Temples.
2. Move views subgenus can curator and administrator of the family (which it will not do :))). Stanislav Korb - curator Rhopalocera Palearctic.If this is not Palaearctic then I think no one (except Peter :))))

09.03.2015 15:35, Alex Dumchus

A.Zhakovu: Well then Peter will be hollow. Peter, and Peter, transfer us some sailboats subgenus Chilasa!

09.03.2015 17:47, Irina Nikulina

Sasha, a small clarification on the safe side, so that people know - I can only be illustrated by the photo page of the form, which are available as well, for example, clear the page, if the photo illustrates a redefined, I can not. I can replace them if there are others in this form, but if not available, will hang until Peter did not will remove them.If the accumulated non-illustrated species do later in the week on a stable Internet, is almost out of network)

09.03.2015 17:55, Alexandr Zhakov

Ira, thank you for the information, all the arrows on Peter, and to carry it :)))

01.04.2015 9:49, Alexandr Zhakov

Who we add subspecies?

01.04.2015 11:21, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Peter, certainly (if not mistaken). It's about what they like ka abolished?
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=47665&view=findpost&p=1544227
More Early on the fly to pick up these innovations. Today, one thing and another tomorrow. It is necessary to wait.

01.04.2015 13:21, Alexandr Zhakov

Basil! :)))
Mobiole On April Fool's joke. :)) About the subspecies. :)))
A subspecies of the original site one of the moderators of skidding.

01.04.2015 13:26, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Yes, I just took the joke seriously because the day I sertёzny April 1))))
Just not accustomed himself to joke that day)))

01.04.2015 13:57, Peter Khramov

By the way, yes, Basil. Happy Birthday! I wish you success in the hunt for a new job and - so, so glad it was you!

01.04.2015 14:09, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Thank you )))

01.04.2015 14:23, Alexandr Zhakov

Vassily, I join in the congratulations :)) You pass the year with jokes and rhymes. Look at this life with humor and it gets better. And many intreresnyh animals this year. :))

01.04.2015 14:38, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Thank you )))

07.08.2015 15:30, Peter Khramov

In the near future (and not only) future looms task that does not require deep expertise: preparation of data to download other people's photos. Let me explain: there are people who have foty interesting species of insects, and who agree to publish them online, but they do not want it / can not.I foty these are with the author's descriptions of them. In many cases the description already laid out on the shelves (the name of the taxon, geography, etc.), but they need to be verified (whether all laid out a gun) and complete / correct if necessary before loading the site (or edited immediately after loading).In addition, there can also be a function of at least a primary selection flies from cutlets (foty quite banal or not at all in the subject).
Usually, I do this. But not always enough time. For example, now we are waiting for a preparation of several thousand photons. And in August, according to preliminary data, it adds some more ... ... tens of thousands ...If anyone can help with this - reported. Again, special knowledge is not required, it is sufficient to be able to isolate the Latin name among the three lines of text in Russian or English (mostly) tongue.

07.08.2015 20:49, Shamil Murtazin

Come on, try.

07.08.2015 22:48, Peter Khramov

Thank you call each other, discuss!

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