Photo #38611: Troides aeacus

21.01.2015 19:11, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

21.01.2015 18:07, Alex Dumchus

Labels are usually at least some, but there, in the very least, the geography of the country, and on precision and on time, I can say that very many commercial species (and also non-profit, for example H. bolina, D. julia et al.) is particularly sailboats, partly nymphs.and Saturn is now grown in nurseries, and often in other countries - so the hell then I fuck the place, time, and especially name the catcher?

21.01.2015 17:21, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander, I do not argue: the overall trend is very bad, that talk about it .....
Here, if people would not buy bezetiketochny material, then traders would be thinking about how they live on :)

21.01.2015 17:11, Alex Dumchus

Basil. We are not talking about personalities, but the general trend.

21.01.2015 17:10, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Well then ebay :) That's about it and spores. There's not usually write in the Public Information label for specific reasons. Another thing is when the real stuff, on receipt without labels. In Lehi zhtiketka the fact that he is always a catch.

21.01.2015 16:58, Peter Khramov

And now let us enter the ACC ebee your good friend and look at the label, yeah -))
What controversy, citizens?

21.01.2015 15:59, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Well, I, Alexander the material is not from ebay, and from my good friend who goes there to catch himself and simply divided friendly material. And in the summer we with him often lost in Meshchora (collect insects, fungi, etc.). So, for the accuracy of Malaysian label I can vouch skzat head :)

21.01.2015 15:33, Alex Dumchus

"... Many traders do not comply with these rules" - all traders, Basil. Even on ebey even gathered themselves !!!

21.01.2015 15:16, Yuri Semejkin

Alexander, the data about the place of collection, including the name of the collector is always indicated on the label, so it is accepted in science, and it is necessary for private .What collection fees, there is really the name of the collector for anything, there is only enough sample. Everything else unless they themselves raised under the big question.

21.01.2015 15:13, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Alexander, and anything funny. In accordance with the rules of geographic label must include: the date of collection, gathering geography, and the name of the collector should all this must be specified. The only trouble is that many traders do not comply with these rules, but this is an isolated incident.In the specific case of butterfly collection a serious scientific organization which should (just have to) be literate labels. Another thing is if you lost ... Here Yuri is right: nothing to do with it.

21.01.2015 14:49, Alex Dumchus

Basil. Well ... I laugh surname garbage !!! How I got the material from abroad, even from law-abiding Europe ... never ... I did not see the name of the collector, in fact, even the capture of the month - just about. You can only answer for myself caught butterflies. As for Murphy's Law: the best work, the cat. made himself

21.01.2015 14:47, Yuri Semejkin

Basil, I know .. Just over the years, there Does decade - a collection or part repeatedly moved that happened to her during that time .......... As a result, not from each sample can take full infu . Somewhere in there, somewhere in there. Suggestions for possible uchtu.

21.01.2015 14:28, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Yuri, even such a request. If you have the opportunity to retake the material be labeled, please write more and geographical data + date of capture. Note this information on the site is very useful and necessary.
P.S. And for the collection material is also the name of the collector (in the well-written label for centuries, it is indicated).

21.01.2015 14:25, Yuri Semejkin

Yes, and probably not someone once keep track of everything. Entomologists one, two and mute. Current work probably suffice.

21.01.2015 14:22, Yuri Semejkin

The provided name is taken from the label, which lists the contents of the box. Troides taken from the labels pinned on a pin with the sample. Which of them are valid, what is not, I do not know.

21.01.2015 14:15, Alex Dumchus

What sort of academy, which do not follow titles (1930 and probably hanging :)

21.01.2015 14:04, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Yuri just brought the old name :)
It is necessary to add the name of the subspecies in LC thus: ssp. kaguya (Nakahara et Esaki, 1930)

21.01.2015 14:03, Vasiliy Feoktistov Corrected data.

Not identified / Imago → Troides aeacus / Confidently identified / Male / Yuri Semejkin.

21.01.2015 14:00, Alex Dumchus

It TROIDES aeacus, male

21.01.2015 13:29, Yuri Semejkin

Papilio aeacus kaguya Nakahara et Esaki , 1930 = Troides