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Why do wasps need sawdust?

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Joiner, 01.03.2006 20:27

I've been curious since the summer.
As you know, I'm a woodworker. wink.gif Sawed birch plywood on the street, it is clear that sawdust sawed a lot. And so the wasps flocked to these sawdust. That is, specifically for sawdust, no jam, no honey, or any food at all was not there. The wasps circled the sawdust, crawled, and then flew away. Yes, there were so many of them-they interfered with sawing! eek.gif At least wear a net like a beekeeper! wink.gif
Maybe they make their nests out of them. Do they carry valuable material like birds? Then can they really "chew" sawdust from plywood (it's glued, there's formaldehyde!) confused.gif

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01.03.2006 21:45, Bad Den

Maybe they were attracted by the smell of formaldehyde, or maybe it was sawdust that they wanted to"chew"

01.03.2006 23:11, Tigran Oganesov

So they chewed sawdust? They can chew it.

02.03.2006 0:46, Chromocenter

It is possible that the smell of wood in such quantities (the surface is large with sawdust) and attracted them, suggesting wood dust.

02.03.2006 2:35, sealor

Some strange wasps...
I've never seen them(social wasps) massively flocked and gnawed something in order to build a nest. Yes, it happens, especially in the fall, that some paper posters are often eaten by wasps..
But there is a lot of such material, and there are very few oss there in a single time.
Once there was a curious situation, like I noticed a nest of wasps in the fall. A lot of bags are piled up, and they will climb/climb out of this pile there. In general, the bags turned out to be made of sugar, there was no nest there smile.gif
I mean, what could have happened to this plywood, maybe it smelled so bad that they confused it with something smile.gif

And these were definitely social wasps, and of what kind?

03.03.2006 23:01, vespabellicosus

In fact, in nature, wasps often flock to the smell of tree sap coming out of cracks. If we were talking about a fresh solid trunk, this would still be understandable, but that they flocked to plywood....This is not entirely clear to me.Specifically, what month was the incident?

10.03.2006 15:30, Joiner

Thank you all for your answers!
Sorry to start the conversation and get lost, but it just so happened... problems with the computer and in general... shuffle.gif

Well, in general, I answer questions-better late than never smile.gif

1. The month was August. It's the time at the end of summer when the wasps go everywhere and stick to people wink.gif
2. What kind, I can't say. I'm not a biologist, I'm just learning... in the first year smile.gif shuffle.gif
Helene here from behind tells me what to do...

10.03.2006 15:32, Helene

Helene here from behind tells me what to do...

Judging by the description of appearance and behavior - someone from Vespula...

10.03.2006 17:15, vespabellicosus

Most likely they were German vespula germanica or common v. vulgaris wasps.At the end of summer, they often flock to the sources of various smells or just to any place that interests them. It would be possible to determine more precisely if there were photos.

14.04.2006 16:07, Лекс

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that they make their famous and water-resistant paper out of chewed sawdust. ( for socket) yes.gif

14.04.2006 16:14, Helene

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that they make their famous and water-resistant paper out of chewed sawdust. ( for the nest) yes.gif

Yeah, the paper version was originally mine. I've watched the hornets fly to the decaying lime tree stump all summer.
But it's strange that the wasps just swarmed right onto the plywood sawdust, which stinks of formaldehyde resin. Or are they addicted to substance abuse? wink.gif

14.04.2006 16:31, RippeR

Once I saw a nest of shernshney fit right in the hollow of a tree. Perhaps it was much more convenient for them, because there was a lot of dust and sawdust there, and therefore to make a nest. Yes, and safer in a hollow tree (perhaps)

14.04.2006 23:53, Tigran Oganesov

This often happens. Most of the hornet's nests were found in tree holes or in other shelters.

15.04.2006 11:25, sealor

But I wonder if hornets use wood inside the hollow tree to build their nests. In general, this is far from unambiguous, as it would seem. I've read that hornets prefer young shoots for material, but the truth is that they, like German hornets, gnaw both wood and paper from posters. But of course, neither I nor others have ever encountered a cluster of wasps on the source of the nest material. Oh, what a lot of this is enough in nature.

15.04.2006 20:20, Лекс

The smell of wood is stronger, besides it is with resin... They can smell it, too. yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif

This post was edited by Lex - 04/15/2006 20: 22

18.04.2006 9:19, vespabellicosus

Hornets use rotten wood with stumps for their nests, or, as Sealor rightly noted, bark from young birch shoots. I've never seen them use dust. Other wasps, with the exception of vespula vulgaris, collect material from pickets, fences, wooden telegraph poles, and can be observed. Therefore, their paper turns out to be gray in color, and it is also stronger than the material of hornets. SEALOR As for clusters, I have observed 4-5 hornets on a young birch tree, but often even less.

15.07.2006 18:09, Охотник за осами

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